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Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21
SierraTimes.com ^ | Feb 3, 2005 | Nancy Levant

Posted on 02/03/2005 10:37:05 PM PST by hedgetrimmer

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To: Coleus

Great, Art Bell sounds like a tin foil hat wearer. Some people will scoff at Agenda 21 when his name is mentioned.


201 posted on 02/04/2005 10:46:42 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: hedgetrimmer

I haven't read the link yet, but I don't dismiss these types of warnings anymore. Fifteen years ago a political activist in MA informed me of a portion of the Ed Reform bill that mandated the establishment of "homosexual clubs" and "gay-safe zones" in all public schools in Massachusetts. The enabling legislation was buried in an enormous bill. The same person pointed out to me that identical language could be found in ed bills being proposed in many other states across the country. The campaign was centrally organized and the provisions in the bill have come to pass, although at the time I found it hard to believe.


202 posted on 02/04/2005 10:57:12 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

You stated all of my fears much better than I ever have.


203 posted on 02/04/2005 11:00:02 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Aquinasfan
Pardon me for stepping into your post to someone else but, how is it possible that Agenda 21 has been around for so long and so few people have ever heard of it?

If it weren't for my interest in L.O.S.T. I would have never heard about it either.

204 posted on 02/04/2005 11:01:46 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: trubluolyguy

>>I think the day our government gave over sovereinty to the blue helmeted, sex slaver, oil for food stealing one world gov. types, <<

We have already given over a large share...... EPA, ESA etc. Have you seen any uprising yet?


205 posted on 02/04/2005 11:02:07 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

Chief, you have led a protected life. That is obvious as the sunshine.


206 posted on 02/04/2005 11:03:50 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: pbrown
how is it possible that Agenda 21 has been around for so long and so few people have ever heard of it?

Don't know. But we rarely hear of what's discussed by the boards of foundations. And foundations are very influential. The Rockefeller Foundation brought us Kinsey and the sexual/homosexual revolution, for example.

207 posted on 02/04/2005 11:05:07 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
If I weren't so damned mad about this crap happening in my country, I would be tempted to pull the blankets up over my head and just go back to sleep.

It is indeed hard to wrap one's mind around something so sinister and all encompassing.

208 posted on 02/04/2005 11:12:48 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: texastoo; CyberAnt
Who Owns Our Biospheres And World Heritage Sites? by Michael S. Coffman, Ph.D. The United Nations has sovereignty over the 47 UNESCO registered World Biosphere Reserves and 20 World Heritage Sites in the United States - right? Well, not really, but sort of... Confused? Join the crowd. Our sovereignty is being given away, but not necessarily in the way you might think.
209 posted on 02/04/2005 11:20:39 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch

Yeah, I've snuggled in the comforting warmth of all those middle east deployments.


210 posted on 02/04/2005 11:32:15 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: CyberAnt; A Balrog of Morgoth; Rightone; toledocon; ArmyBratproud

Have you ever asked yourself why the United States would (a) join an organization led by Communists,
(b) where Democracy is not the goal of all members,
(c) why the US Congress would promote treaties that disolve our sovereignty and guarantee independence from Communism,
(d) why not one elected legislator stands up to tell you the truth about their intentions and support for the UN Agenda 21 goals,
(e)why our military was ordered to join with the UN Forces under President Clinton,
(f) why the United States is the largest donor to the UN Budget,
(g) why the truth isn't being screamed by our "Patriots", ex military men, Senator McCain and President Bush,
(h)why we are so damn stupid and keep walking right into these burning fires?

How many times do we have to get burned before we will do something to save America?

This blind trust in politicians is sheer ignorance. Quit protecting yourselves from the facts! Turn your hats around and open up to ideas different than what comes over the damn television. Educate yourself to the hazards that are out there.

Anytime we sign a treaty we disolve some of our sovereignty because we have agreed to do as the treaty says FOREVER!

THE TREATY NEEDS TO BE ABROGATED BEFORE WE CAN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR ELSE THE WORLD COURT WILL FIND US AT FAULT.

Do you have children? Then educate yourselves for their benefit.

>>My organization does have a website. It's www.navy.mil.<<
(See (e) above. Yes, you were/are a part of it!


211 posted on 02/04/2005 11:35:41 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: blanknoone
But the struggle is not against the UN. The UN is a pawn in the game. It is a struggle of ideology. People don't do what they do 'for the UN'.

Then who are we to fight? What do their faces look like so we will know them when we see them?

It sounds almost insurmountable a task to fight 'them' whomever 'them' are.

212 posted on 02/04/2005 11:37:18 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
Great, Art Bell sounds like a tin foil hat wearer.>>

Yes and no, he's an entertainer and talk show host, his shtick is the aliens and ghosts thing; however, as I said he's had on a number of "traditional" scholars, scientists, etc. and knows a lot from his years interviewing these people. I don't recall agenda 21 being a subject on his show.
213 posted on 02/04/2005 11:37:23 AM PST by Coleus (Brooke Shields aborted how many children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: B4Ranch

Maybe the U.N. will finally finish off those damn pesky Freemasons while they're at it.


214 posted on 02/04/2005 11:38:09 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: B4Ranch
My organization does have a website. It's www.navy.mil.<< (See (e) above. Yes, you were/are a part of it!

Tinfoil

By the truckload
215 posted on 02/04/2005 11:39:20 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

>>I don't think they'll even come close.<<

How about under another 8 years of a Dims President? Congress isn't known for its rigid backbone anymore!


216 posted on 02/04/2005 11:42:09 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: pbrown

>>Senator Lugar is involved in getting L.O.S.T. passed.<<

And Lieberman is trying hard too.


217 posted on 02/04/2005 11:44:25 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
If you don't believe any of this thread, why do you continue to come and post such nonsense? No one made you come here.

There are those of us who are just waking up to such a threat to our way of living.

Have you not read one thing of all the articles on this thread to make you think that it is a possibility that such things are happening in the world today.

If google can come up with over 20 million hits on this one subject, perhaps you do not want to believe. That is your choice....not everyone elses.

218 posted on 02/04/2005 11:45:52 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: CyberAnt
The UN cannot even find it's way to the bathroom - let alone dissolve America's sovereignty.

Name the last time America fought a war for whatever reason without crawling to the UN first.

219 posted on 02/04/2005 11:46:21 AM PST by SwankyC
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To: hedgetrimmer
When the free trade agreements we sign with other countries include riders that state that the UN ILO is the authority for all labor law, labor claims and labor disputes in order for the treaty to be enacted, that is dissolving our sovereignty.

Treaties don't override the Constitution. But you and a bunch of liberals believe it does.

220 posted on 02/04/2005 11:48:51 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: B4Ranch
I didn't know that about Lieberman, thanks. But you must be careful, there are some here who would invoke the Protocols of Zion at the mention of a jewish name.

It is hard to believe that our politicans are so anxious to give away America.

221 posted on 02/04/2005 11:51:06 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

You did what your CiC ORDERED you to do. You were a part of it, Chief. Turn your damn hat around and look forward. It's coming over the horizen and you must be thinking that it's all fog.

No Sir! It is not.


222 posted on 02/04/2005 11:52:14 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: pbrown

That is one of my tiniest concerns. Feel persecuted if they want, fine with me.


223 posted on 02/04/2005 11:53:39 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: FreeReign

Not me. You are confusing me with our judiciary and our legislature.

I believe in the supremacy of the US Constitution. However there are people in power who put treaty obligations over their duty to protect the Constitution and individual rights.


224 posted on 02/04/2005 11:55:03 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
The UN is a bunch of incompetent, corrupt buffoons. Your examples of Rwanda, Sudan, and OilforFood are all sterling examples. Agenda 21 is just another utopian UN fanstasy that will collapse under the wieght of the UN's corruption and venality. This thread reads like a transcript from some 1990s militia shortwave radio broadcast.

Isn't it amazing how much credence is given to the U.N. and to this "Agenda 21" plan. The U.N. has never succeeded at anything let alone trying to heard 4.5 billion people into a unified global government.

Freedom and independence are out of the toothpaste tube and there's no way to push it back.

225 posted on 02/04/2005 11:57:21 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: pbrown



Its is not (yet) a fight where we have to know who to shoot and who not to shoot. It is a war of ideas...you do not have to know who has the wrong ideas, you have to spread the right ideas. Most especially in the institutional systems, like the schools.

The death of Karl Marx was not the end of communism. Even the fall of the Soviet Union was not the death of those ideas. It was not important to know WHO all of the Soviet apparatchiks were...the discrediting of the ideas that we need to accomplish.

And if you really need a them...start with your local planning board and your local school. See what ideas they are enforcing and spreading.


226 posted on 02/04/2005 11:58:12 AM PST by blanknoone (GWB: Saying what he means and meaning what he says)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Not me. You are confusing me with our judiciary and our legislature. I believe in the supremacy of the US Constitution. However there are people in power who put treaty obligations over their duty to protect the Constitution and individual rights.

My mistake. I must be confusing you with the guy who said this:


227 posted on 02/04/2005 12:00:31 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: B4Ranch
Because some of us believe this scenario is real. Others feel it is their duty to set us straight. Reading so much info on Agenda 21 and all of it's far reaching tentacles was quiet an eye-opening experience for me.
228 posted on 02/04/2005 12:00:36 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: spunkets

UN Labels on US Parks

U.N. designations such as "World Heritage Site" and "Biosphere Reserve" are being placed on dozens of U.S parks and monuments, including Independence Hall, the Statue of Liberty and Yellowstone National Park. At Mt. Mitchell State Park in North Carolina (pictured here), a sign leading into the park designated it as a U.N. Biosphere Reserve. When citizens protested, the words "United Nations" were taken off the sign and "international" was put in its place, to make it seem less ominous. But if all of this is so innocent, why were the words "United Nations" taken off? Is it not possible for federal and U.N. officials to explain the role of the U.N. in these parks and sites?

Some experts believe that these international designations are part of a process by which the U.N., working with federal agencies, is moving to restrict access to enormous areas of U.S. territory, for the purpose of safeguarding the natural resources, including plants, animals and things, that are the province of "Gaia," the earth spirit.

__________________________________________________________________________________

Think this is a new program? Been going on for 35 years now.

1972 United Nations Treaty Allows Foreign Control of American Assets

229 posted on 02/04/2005 12:03:14 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: blanknoone
And if you really need a them...start with your local planning board

Thanks, I go to the school board meetings. It never occured to me to attend the planning board meetings.

230 posted on 02/04/2005 12:03:49 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

I've been following this for 30 years and ask why is it that people have so much "ignorant faith" in our g-damned politicians.


231 posted on 02/04/2005 12:06:04 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch
I've only just learned about all the twist and turns of their agenda on America.....LAST NIGHT!!

I've been concerned about L.O.S.T. for a while now. I've tried bringing it up a couple of times on different threads when the UN was brought into the conversation, but I recieved no responses on my post so I let it drop.

232 posted on 02/04/2005 12:11:10 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: X_CDN_EH

get on Google and do the reasearch. Look for the names of the organizations who pushed it, then see if you can tie them in with a conservancy, then look for the NGO with that name.


233 posted on 02/04/2005 12:11:30 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: FreeReign
How many countries in the world have established UN frameworks to implement UN policies?

Does this list include the United States?

What US senator submitted a country report for the United States on our progress to implementing sustainable development?

How far along does the country report for the United States say we are?

Which American congressman has written a bill to implement Agenda 21 in our territorial waters? (hint: its called Oceans 21)

How many members of Congress are members of the UN/USA NGO? Is senator Lugar of the infamous LOST, one of them?
234 posted on 02/04/2005 12:11:51 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: FreeReign

Yes it dissovles our soveiegnty when our congress agrees to sign treaties like this. If you do something that violates one of these treaties, you can be held liable by international organizations. Is that not weakening our sovereignty?


235 posted on 02/04/2005 12:14:20 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Kay Ludlow
Go down to a local city council meeting and ask, "What have you been doing to follow the Agenda 21 Plan in the Cities new growth structure? Act as if they arn't doing enough! The more they tell you, seem unsatisfied. They'll tell you more and more. Then expose the whole thing in one shot and knock them off their stools for re-election.
236 posted on 02/04/2005 12:16:13 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
AGENDA 21 is not a Black Helicopter Birch Society CFR conspiracy theory. "Smart Growth" is being pushed in every suburban town in America.

"Open Space" Planning and the "viewsheds" in new restricted zoning laws are being implemented across the country.

It will never be a pet project on Hannity or O'Reilly because they really aren't smart enough to really grasp what's going on. It would take research, they don't have time. Just like there is no such thing anymore of "investigative" journalism....too cost and time intensive.

Instead, reporters use polls and press releases as a substitute for news now because it's easy.

237 posted on 02/04/2005 12:16:58 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: B4Ranch
Go down to a local city council meeting and ask, "What have you been doing to follow the Agenda 21 Plan in the Cities new growth structure? Act as if they arn't doing enough! The more they tell you, seem unsatisfied. They'll tell you more and more. Then expose the whole thing in one shot and knock them off their stools for re-election.

Smooth move.

238 posted on 02/04/2005 12:21:49 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: metesky
You are correct that this is a winnable fight, but people have to know that there is a fight in order to win it.

This post should get bumped daily until there are 10,000 bumps just so more and more people become aware of it.

BOOKMARKED FOR LATER BUMPING

239 posted on 02/04/2005 12:23:38 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Junior

United States of America




Date of ratification of the Convention:
07 Dec 1973





Properties inscribed on the World Heritage List:
Cultural
Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site (1982)

Chaco Culture National Historical Park (1987)

Independence Hall (1979) = LIBERTY BELL

La Fortaleza and San Juan Historic Site in Puerto Rico (1983)

Mesa Verde (1978)

Monticello and the University of Virginia in Charlottesville (1987)

Pueblo de Taos (1992)

Statue of Liberty (1984)

Natural
Carlsbad Caverns National Park (1995)

Everglades National Park (1979)

Grand Canyon National Park (1979)

Great Smoky Mountains National Park (1983)

Hawaii Volcanoes National Park (1987)

Kluane/Wrangell-St. Elias/Glacier Bay/Tatshenshini-Alsek (1979)

Mammoth Cave National Park (1981)

Olympic National Park (1981)

Redwood National Park (1980)

Waterton Glacier International Peace Park (1995)

Yellowstone (1978)

Yosemite National Park (1984)


240 posted on 02/04/2005 12:26:03 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Free2BeMe

Protecting and Defending the Constitution and the people of the U.S. againt real, qualified and quantifiable threats is serious business. Anyone who makes light of our Constitution, traditional American way of life and property rights is watching a "different channel" to say the least. I'll have to pass on the concept of Karl Marx workers' settlements. (Check out some pictures of these stark, ugly hovels in Russia).

We all need to be alert and guard our lives, Liberties and private property closely. Thank God for the Constitution and the Amendments (properly interpreted).

BTW, have you ever heard about the clowns dressed up as Dungeons and Dragons characters?

Check out this link:
http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/reno911/
In the drop down menu select Reno 911, then select "Videos" in the orange bar under the drop down menus. The sixth Reno video down is the one to watch.


241 posted on 02/04/2005 12:28:35 PM PST by Bald Eagle777 (Patton Oswalt lives in a world of "cold steel, dungeons and mighty foes" ...)
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To: 1Old Pro
Pardon my intrusion but, I'm sorry to say you are right. Property and land owners are finally realizing that what they thought was theirs, IE: home and property, are being stolen from them for 'The Better Good'.

They are talking about charging people in rural areas who use wells as their source of drinking water.

That's like charging us to breathe air. The audacity of these people know no bounds.

242 posted on 02/04/2005 12:29:57 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: 1Old Pro

How do I go about bumping it?


243 posted on 02/04/2005 12:31:02 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
OPEN SPACE" TAXES. Has your town taxed you yet to "preserve" open space?
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/focus/news/660307/posts
"Smart Growth" is "Agenda 21"
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ac76978087e.htm
'Character' Development? -- Jim Jeffords wants to run your local zoning board.
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/focus/news/675351/posts
'Open space' = Housing ban
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/728283/posts
'Smart-growth' plan riles black farmers
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/781248/posts
(Property rights)-- The forgotten fundamental right
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/727509/posts
America's drive for acreage (Smart Growth not wanted)
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/focus/news/671838/posts
Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1335656/posts
FEDERAL LAND GRAB, COMMUNITY CHARACTER ACT
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/focus/news/659330/posts
Smart Growth's Misunderstood Message
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1292342/posts
THE SMART GROWTH FRAUD
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/948152/posts

244 posted on 02/04/2005 12:31:47 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: pbrown

A bump is the same as a response. It keeps the post on the front page of the FR forum so people can easily find it.


245 posted on 02/04/2005 12:33:17 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: hedgetrimmer

The boogie man is coming to get me.


246 posted on 02/04/2005 12:34:54 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: CyberAnt

Exactly.

Yeah, I am sure the UN has plans. But, they will never work.

They never have, and unless Hillary wins, they never will.


247 posted on 02/04/2005 12:36:04 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: 1Old Pro

Thank you. I was here till around 4:00 a.m. this morning. I was hoping it would still be here today....and it was.


248 posted on 02/04/2005 12:37:18 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Go to the first post, and hit "bookmark". Then go to you "profile" and hit "Links". You'll forever have it "saved".


249 posted on 02/04/2005 12:39:26 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: B4Ranch

Check out Measure 37 passed in Oregon this past election. It's a big blow to Agenda 21 and smarxist growth.

Also check out the reversal of Poletown by the Michigan supreme court. A huge win for private property rights.

Lots of lower district court rulings, too, restoring sovereignty and property rights.

At issue, though, is making people aware of the power they have and start bashing the eco-fascists over the head.

So, yes, there is an uprising. It's being done thru the ballot box and state and lower federal court judiciaries. As long as the system is open to us, let's use what we've got.


250 posted on 02/04/2005 12:39:39 PM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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