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Scientists find missing link between whale and its closest relative, the hippo
UC Berkeley News ^ | 24 January 2005 | Robert Sanders, Media Relations

Posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry

A group of four-footed mammals that flourished worldwide for 40 million years and then died out in the ice ages is the missing link between the whale and its not-so-obvious nearest relative, the hippopotamus.

The conclusion by University of California, Berkeley, post-doctoral fellow Jean-Renaud Boisserie and his French colleagues finally puts to rest the long-standing notion that the hippo is actually related to the pig or to its close relative, the South American peccary. In doing so, the finding reconciles the fossil record with the 20-year-old claim that molecular evidence points to the whale as the closest relative of the hippo.

"The problem with hippos is, if you look at the general shape of the animal it could be related to horses, as the ancient Greeks thought, or pigs, as modern scientists thought, while molecular phylogeny shows a close relationship with whales," said Boisserie. "But cetaceans – whales, porpoises and dolphins – don't look anything like hippos. There is a 40-million-year gap between fossils of early cetaceans and early hippos."

In a paper appearing this week in the Online Early Edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Boisserie and colleagues Michel Brunet and Fabrice Lihoreau fill in this gap by proposing that whales and hippos had a common water-loving ancestor 50 to 60 million years ago that evolved and split into two groups: the early cetaceans, which eventually spurned land altogether and became totally aquatic; and a large and diverse group of four-legged beasts called anthracotheres. The pig-like anthracotheres, which blossomed over a 40-million-year period into at least 37 distinct genera on all continents except Oceania and South America, died out less than 2 and a half million years ago, leaving only one descendent: the hippopotamus.

This proposal places whales squarely within the large group of cloven-hoofed mammals (even-toed ungulates) known collectively as the Artiodactyla – the group that includes cows, pigs, sheep, antelopes, camels, giraffes and most of the large land animals. Rather than separating whales from the rest of the mammals, the new study supports a 1997 proposal to place the legless whales and dolphins together with the cloven-hoofed mammals in a group named Cetartiodactyla.

"Our study shows that these groups are not as unrelated as thought by morphologists," Boisserie said, referring to scientists who classify organisms based on their physical characteristics or morphology. "Cetaceans are artiodactyls, but very derived artiodactyls."

The origin of hippos has been debated vociferously for nearly 200 years, ever since the animals were rediscovered by pioneering French paleontologist Georges Cuvier and others. Their conclusion that hippos are closely related to pigs and peccaries was based primarily on their interpretation of the ridges on the molars of these species, Boisserie said.

"In this particular case, you can't really rely on the dentition, however," Boisserie said. "Teeth are the best preserved and most numerous fossils, and analysis of teeth is very important in paleontology, but they are subject to lots of environmental processes and can quickly adapt to the outside world. So, most characteristics are not dependable indications of relationships between major groups of mammals. Teeth are not as reliable as people thought."

As scientists found more fossils of early hippos and anthracotheres, a competing hypothesis roiled the waters: that hippos are descendents of the anthracotheres.

All this was thrown into disarray in 1985 when UC Berkeley's Vincent Sarich, a pioneer of the field of molecular evolution and now a professor emeritus of anthropology, analyzed blood proteins and saw a close relationship between hippos and whales. A subsequent analysis of mitochondrial, nuclear and ribosomal DNA only solidified this relationship.

Though most biologists now agree that whales and hippos are first cousins, they continue to clash over how whales and hippos are related, and where they belong within the even-toed ungulates, the artiodactyls. A major roadblock to linking whales with hippos was the lack of any fossils that appeared intermediate between the two. In fact, it was a bit embarrassing for paleontologists because the claimed link between the two would mean that one of the major radiations of mammals – the one that led to cetaceans, which represent the most successful re-adaptation to life in water – had an origin deeply nested within the artiodactyls, and that morphologists had failed to recognize it.

This new analysis finally brings the fossil evidence into accord with the molecular data, showing that whales and hippos indeed are one another's closest relatives.

"This work provides another important step for the reconciliation between molecular- and morphology-based phylogenies, and indicates new tracks for research on emergence of cetaceans," Boisserie said.

Boisserie became a hippo specialist while digging with Brunet for early human ancestors in the African republic of Chad. Most hominid fossils earlier than about 2 million years ago are found in association with hippo fossils, implying that they lived in the same biotopes and that hippos later became a source of food for our distant ancestors. Hippos first developed in Africa 16 million years ago and exploded in number around 8 million years ago, Boisserie said.

Now a post-doctoral fellow in the Human Evolution Research Center run by integrative biology professor Tim White at UC Berkeley, Boisserie decided to attempt a resolution of the conflict between the molecular data and the fossil record. New whale fossils discovered in Pakistan in 2001, some of which have limb characteristics similar to artiodactyls, drew a more certain link between whales and artiodactyls. Boisserie and his colleagues conducted a phylogenetic analysis of new and previous hippo, whale and anthracothere fossils and were able to argue persuasively that anthracotheres are the missing link between hippos and cetaceans.

While the common ancestor of cetaceans and anthracotheres probably wasn't fully aquatic, it likely lived around water, he said. And while many anthracotheres appear to have been adapted to life in water, all of the youngest fossils of anthracotheres, hippos and cetaceans are aquatic or semi-aquatic.

"Our study is the most complete to date, including lots of different taxa and a lot of new characteristics," Boisserie said. "Our results are very robust and a good alternative to our findings is still to be formulated."

Brunet is associated with the Laboratoire de Géobiologie, Biochronologie et Paléontologie Humaine at the Université de Poitiers and with the Collège de France in Paris. Lihoreau is a post-doctoral fellow in the Département de Paléontologie of the Université de N'Djaména in Chad.

The work was supported in part by the Mission Paléoanthropologique Franco-Tchadienne, which is co-directed by Brunet and Patrick Vignaud of the Université de Poitiers, and in part by funds to Boisserie from the Fondation Fyssen, the French Ministère des Affaires Etrangères and the National Science Foundation's Revealing Hominid Origins Initiative, which is co-directed by Tim White and Clark Howell of UC Berkeley.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crevolist; darwin; evolution; whale
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To: HankReardon
I assure you, all of our ancestors were fully human.

Well I feel much better.

201 posted on 02/08/2005 7:17:12 AM PST by DCPatriot (I don't do politically correct very well either.)
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To: Ichneumon

I'll find the article some time for you, it's very interesting. Meanwhile, I suspect you do not dispute that man bred down wolves and developed different dogs from wolves. Did this result in the creation of a completely new species?

202 posted on 02/08/2005 7:19:52 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon


203 posted on 02/08/2005 7:20:31 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Liberal Classic

Not identical DNA blueprint, the DNA structure denoting a single species.

204 posted on 02/08/2005 7:21:21 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: MissAmericanPie

It's cool Miss Pie, just funnin' with you.

205 posted on 02/08/2005 7:22:12 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon

Hybrids to occur in nature. There is some debate among wildlife biologists whether red wolves are a separate species of themselves, or simply wolf/coyote hybrids. No one that I know of or have talked to, except you, contends that wolves and coyotes *are* the same species.

206 posted on 02/08/2005 7:27:34 AM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: DCPatriot

Yeah, that seems like a dumb statement. But as you see, there are many here who doubt the humanness of their ancestors.

207 posted on 02/08/2005 7:29:07 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: Liberal Classic

Yeah, me neither, I just through that one out there. But seriously, I did read that the scientific classifications distinguishing the wolf and dog as two seperate species were eliminated.

208 posted on 02/08/2005 7:31:11 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: Mamzelle

Are you being obtuse for a reason? That extremely long post presented just a small scintilla of the evidence for evolution, but you airily dismiss it by calling the poster a "doctrinaire PhD crank longing for tenure and relevance." I guess handwaving is a whole lot easier than actually examining the evidence -- and it has the added benefit that you do not need to change your particular worldview.

209 posted on 02/08/2005 7:31:20 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Mamzelle
The fact that you desire so badly to PROVE anything is your problem. PROVING such a thing is not possible, nor should it be the business of scientists. This desire is vanity, the will to dominate the minds of others.

Translation: How dare I present facts which challenge Mamzelle's cherished preconceptions...

That is not the realm of the scientist.

The "realm of the scientist" is knowledge. I'm sorry that this seems to annoy you, and that you find it offensive when someone is "rude" enough to present you with some.

A scientist can demonstrate what is plausible and reasonable--but what you want in the province of the shaman.


The article was perfectly interesting until the scientist wanted to claim something he could not possibly claim--

He "claimed" what the overwhelming body of evidence clearly indicates. You are clearly uncomfortable with what it indicates, but don't blame that on *him*.

that not only are the hippo and whale related (we already knew that, btw) but that means--positively--that they were produced by some common ancestor.

Excuse me, but what the hell ELSE would being "related" mean in a biological sense, other than "having a common ancestor"? Related: "Connected by kinship, common origin, or marriage."

You're not making much sense here. If you "already knew" that "the hippo and whale are related", in what manner do you claim they are "related" if you don't mean, you know, *related*?

Kabang, popped out of the same cabbage patch.

Is there some reason that anti-evolutionists are so fond of childishly incorrect scenarios?

That requires huge assumptions and leaps of faith--all kinds of surprising surmising.

It requires none of that, actually, it requires a familiarity with the evidence, a knowledge of the processes involved, and the intellectual honesty to not keep thinking up excuses for ignoring them.

The flies have indeed been the material of genetic experiments before we knew what genetics are. If ideal lab conditions, over considerable time and insolation, cannot produce your new Pet,

First, I already showed you a "new pet". Selective amnesia?

Second, you're hallucinating if you think that 1000 generations is long enough to evolve a fly into, I don't know, a cabbage? Just what bizarre, unrealistic scenario *are* you demanding to be shown before you'll even *begin* look at the massive amounts of evidence that, even though it can't be done *poof* in a lab to your specifications (*NOR* would one expect to be able to), IT STILL HAPPENED whether you want to accept it or not.

There are *hundreds* of independent lines of evidence which overwhelmingly indicate that whether you like it or not, LIVING CREATURES SHARE COMMON ANCESTRY, *and* that they have evolved over time. If you want to remaind belligerently ignorant of that fact in order to protect your fragile preconceptions, feel free, but don't expect those of us who *have* taken the time to learn something about the real world to sit idly by while you spew errant nonsense. Your claims are contrary to the facts, I regret to have to inform you. So if you want to stay in that knowledge-free cocoon, I suggest that you refrain from making the kind of air-headed and flatly *wrong* pronouncements which are so common from the anti-evolutionists, because that *will* prompt people who recognize your pap for what it is to step up and correct your misstatements, lest anyone else mistake them as reliable.

it's not likely that nature can magically produce millions of fortuitous accidents in perfect fortuitous order!.

Nor would anyone who wasn't entirely misinformed on the subject of evolutionary biology presume that adaptive modifications need be performed "in perfect fortuitous order", much less "magically".

So much nonsense, so little time...

I don't know how it came about--and I'll admit that.

Well then that's a start.

You claim to know, and that is obvious arrogance.

No, it is obvious knowledge. I have spent years reading thousands of papers, personally examining the evidence, personally modelling the processes, personally checking the math, and so on. If it is "arrogance" to realize that I have an informed opinion on the matter, well then hell, color me guilty.

But it seems to me that the *real* arrogance is coming from those who want to cling to the notion that ignorance is just as valid as knowledge, misconceptions are just as good as informed opinion, and that "no one can really know anything anyway", so their "whatever I want to think"s are "just as good" as the results of over a hundred years of accumulated knowledge on a subject.

Which statement is actually more arrogant:

1. "I have studied this subject for many years, I know quite a bit about it, and have on tap the accumulated knowledge of millions of others collected over more than a century."

2. "You don't know s**t, I laugh at your so-called 'knowledge', I know it's all bunk, and besides I read a pamphlet that tells me how stupid it is!"

Who's the scientist?

I am, and so are the millions of evolutionary biologists who do this sort of thing as well.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion. But not every opinion is an informed one.

210 posted on 02/08/2005 7:32:43 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Mamzelle
According to the Evo-shamans, the hippo and horse are very close cousins.

Wrong. Read something about the subject before you post on it, why don't you?

211 posted on 02/08/2005 7:33:16 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: HankReardon

Ping Pong

212 posted on 02/08/2005 7:33:18 AM PST by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: Junior

I'll be a monkey's uncle! Gotta go, got some speciating to do.

213 posted on 02/08/2005 7:34:29 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon

You are, by far, the most militantly-ignorant poster I've encountered on these threads since the demise of gore3000.

214 posted on 02/08/2005 7:35:31 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Mamzelle
But they haven't quite managed it yet. Still, they send out press releases that It Has Happened, even hasn't happened.

As has been explained to you countless times, you have misunderstood the article, and persist in misunderstanding it even after your errors are pointed out to you.

Let's have a show of hands: Who's surprised?

215 posted on 02/08/2005 7:35:41 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: HankReardon
Not identical DNA blueprint, the DNA structure denoting a single species.

Ah. And what exactly might *that* be?

If I show you two genomes, how exactly do you determine whether they are "the DNA structure denoting a single species"?

Be specific and show your work.

216 posted on 02/08/2005 7:37:16 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: HankReardon
I assure you, all of our ancestors were fully human.

All creation scientists agree with you. However they don't agree on which ancestors are fully human, and which are "clearly" apes.

Creationist Classifications of Hominid Fossils
Specimen Cuozzo
and Van
ER 1813 ER 1813
(510 cc)
Ape Ape Ape Ape Ape Ape
Java Man Java
(940 cc)
Ape Ape Human Ape Ape Human
Peking Man Peking
1225 cc)
Ape Ape Human Ape Human Human
ER 1470 ER 1470
(750 cc)
Ape Ape Ape Human Human Human
ER 3733 ER 3733
(850 cc)
Ape Human Human Human Human Human
WT 15000 WT 15000
(880 cc)
Ape Human Human Human Human Human

217 posted on 02/08/2005 7:38:24 AM PST by Stultis
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To: Ichneumon

You said all that? WOW!

What prompted the ape to speciate,
Was it his desire to bloviate?
Could be merely something he ate,
That set with him wrong, made him feciate.

218 posted on 02/08/2005 7:39:27 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: Stultis

I know people today with skulls shaped like that.

219 posted on 02/08/2005 7:40:27 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: Ichneumon

Oh come on mister braniac! You digress! Is a dog and wolf the same species? Yes or no?

220 posted on 02/08/2005 7:41:59 AM PST by HankReardon
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