Skip to comments.Scandal Puts Focus On Role of Bloggers (WaPo on FR, NCPAC and MD4Bush)
Posted on 02/10/2005 10:41:44 PM PST by conservative in nyc
The Web site began as a sort of Internet boutique for like-minded conservatives and libertarians, suspicious of federal power and angry at President Bill Clinton.
Started in 1997 by a reclusive California conservative, freerepublic.com saw its membership blossom with Clinton's impeachment and the election of George W. Bush. Attention to the site reached a zenith last fall, when a "freeper" -- the group's moniker for its bloggers -- first discussed flaws in documents CBS News used in a report critical of Bush's National Guard service.
One participant working under the handle MD4BUSH, whose identity is unknown, drew Steffen into a private conversation and appeared to coax him to share more details about his role in spreading the rumor. Copies of those chat room e-mails were later provided to The Washington Post.
The Oct. 18 conversation began with MD4BUSH complimenting Steffen and saying how obvious it was that the rumors about the mayor were true. Steffen, writing under the name NCPAC, replied:
"I don't look for the MO'M [O'Malley] story to hit for a little bit yet. . . . However, a lot of what everyone knows about MO'M is because of work that has occurred. It's been a wild ride."
MD4BUSH later probed further:
"Your saying that my dentist knows [about the rumors] because of work you did? Wow, I must say, I'm impressed. I mean really, everyone knows -- how did that happen?"
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Olesker has been around forever. Very liberal. It does look like he gave it away -- "in e-mails to the Washington Post."
Olesker has written millions of words but he best remembered for these, when he was working for the now-defunct Baltimore News-American:
"The Baltimore Sun comes out daily with all the warmth, joy, humor and compassion of a bank vault."
For others , this is about Eason jordan CNN Executive and his comments at the World Economic Conference in Dravos (Europe ) regarding our US Soldiers.
For a voluminous account of this episode and the Blogs describing it, see this:
Check in with Grampa dave then.
Can't access the site. Rec'd the following message:
"To our Readers:
washingtonpost.com is undergoing maintenance and some sections
of the site are temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience. Of course,
the latest news and updates will continue to be available on our home page."
ROFL! Gene Gene the Dancing Machine...OMG
Hey, Grampa....you got something going on "outing" reporters aligned with the pro-homosexual agenda? I'd be interested in helping gather information or being pinged to same.
that's odd, lily....I was able to access the article, just now. maybe it's up again.
See his post at #537.
You are so right. The transceiver is under a sand trap by the eighth green, planted there by Ray Floyd's father when he was the golf pro there.
A true Bush supporter would not be so lax about capitalizing his name, imo. On a home page, there is adequate time to catch and correct such an error, if one really wants to.
I see that scripter and EdReform already saw this....good idea; I'll keep it in mind!
"The blogosphere "is the international waters of the Internet age -- a lawless area where anything goes," said Matthew Felling, media director for the nonpartisan Center for Media and Public Affairs. "Sometimes that means information the quote-unquote mainstream media are keeping you from, and sometimes that means rumors the mainstream media responsibly ignores."
Ah! There you go! So when the Washington ComPost buries a story, they are being "responsible"."
Exactly right. The Trenton state house reporters knew about McGreevey and Cipel but kept the story from the public. Despite the fact that so-called "gay rights" are being pushed in politics, McGreevey was able to get away with being a gay person pushing a secret gay agenda without the public knowing his true nature.
The Associated Press made a big spash by re-assigning three state-house reporters but they're back now.
Gene Gene the Dancing Machine.. llllooollll
Thanks for the ping.
RE: Who is Michael Olesker? Did he just slip up here -- BIG TIME? Or is he just wrong about MD4BUSH's identity?
Michael Olesker is a regular, high profile columnist who is in an ongoing feud with Governor Ehrlich. He said something that the Governor said was a serious misquote last summer, so the Gov told his staff in Annapolis not to talk to Olesker until an apology was issued. - still waiting, as far as I know--
Governor Ehrlich was on the phone to our 9am talk show at 9:06am, steaming about this comment in Olesker's comment - another misquote according to the governor.
Pseudonym *ping*.. fyi
Bottom line is, whether pacific or east coast time, there is no way compost can claim that they got the e-mails from the public post by MD4. They either got illicit copies of private messages, or MD4 is a compost/DUmbocrat operative. WaPo has no integrity, none, zip, zero, nada (to quote maha rushie). The irony is that today's compost story points their stinky little finger at the internet, when they are the disgusting liars.
"So .. what I see is the SLIMY media is sending people over to FR to corner people into private "chat" and then they have copies of all the conversations.
I don't like it. It's a form of entrapment."
Aren't reporters 'posed to identify themselves? Anything regarding the law?
I agree that the average FR poster probably doesn't care that much if the Baltimore Mayor is behaving in similar fashion to his Police Commissioner and buddy, who is now in jail for using gov funds for his mistress (mistresses?). (The rumors about O'Malley were posted, irresponsibly IMHO, to the Baltimore Sun talk forum, long before a FReeper asked if the rumors were true and most responding FReepers debunked or through cold water on the rumors.)
The original Gannon story was the news that there was a conservative (gasp, hide the women and children) in the White House Press Corps (WHPC), most FReepers sure didn't think that was a scandal. The real scandal there was the lack of ideological diversity, often resulting in group think, among the WHPC. However, much of the WHPC thought it was a scandal that a conservative was among them, especially one who worked for a less-known new media outlet, making him an easy target for attack.
Two real scandals have now broken.
First, a mischaracterization of NCPAC's actions by the WaPo and the rest of the jackals in the media pack. As the last paragraph of the current WaPo article (much better and more balanced article than the rest) makes clear, NCPAC commented on the rumor, but did not appear to be spreading it.
The scandalous mischaracterization is being used to bloody Gov. Ehrlich by his political opponents and their willing accomplices in the media.
The scandalous mischaracterization is also being used by much of old media to trash the internet in general and FR in particular.
The scandal in the Gannon case is that the NY Times-owned Boston Globe (a former virtual subdidiary of the Kerry campaign) investigated journalist Gannon because he deviated too far from the liberals' group think. They trashed him as a phony journalist with an agenda, something that they never did with, for example, Helen Thomas. Further the media now use the case to further trash the internet, bloggers, etc.
Well, this has been an interesting week. I'm pretty convinced that MD4BUSH is an operative from Left, whether they are employed by The Compost or the Baltimore Fishwrap or not...
Hey, MD4BUSH - any comment on this, or are you too cowardly to show up and answer for this? We're waiting...
I believe it's Wednesday.
Thanks for the ping!
The FReepmails from MD4Bush certainly show that he was either overzealous in the extreme or was trying to entrap NCPAC. Of course, as you can see from the last few paragraphs of the WaPo story, NCPAC refused to help spread the rumor, thus showing that the whole media circus is based on a lie.
NCPAC commented on a rumor, but did not spread it as far as can be determined on this record.
The Associated Press made a big spash by re-assigning
three state-house reporters but they're back now.
Aw, Jeez! Why am I NOT surprised?
thus showing that the whole media circus is based on a lie.
Doesn't really matter with the MSM - as long as they can raise doubts about something, just enough that there are questions, then they consider themselves to be Investigative Journalists. In reality, they are a joke.
1: If you wanna dance, avoid the killing floor of self-importance.
2: Always remember: Sometimes it's good to have a secret.
3: When kidnapped by space invaders, do not AUTOMATICALLY assume they are MSM plants. That would be paranoid.
Thanks for the ping.
This DOES look like one of those "turning points of history"
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Just saw this
I should say that this WaPo article was relatively good.
It erroneously referred to FReepers as bloggers at some points, as they apparently don't know the difference between a blog and a forum.
Most importantly though, this article avoided the mischaracterizations and slant in previous articles in the WaPo and elsewhere.
Anyone who doe's not agree with the group think on FR is called a troll. Maybe this is why some people get even by doing harmful things. It is not the happiest moment to donate to the site and then be banned. I have read comments like that about FR on other sites. Not my problem just relaying what I have read. Some posters on this site seem to be more equal than others. Shades of Animal Farm.
Does his IP address do any splainin' for him?
Bless your heart..
Sounds like someone who knew what the NCPAC org was and was able to connect the dots.
Probably either an O'Malley strategist(or reporter), or someone who works for one.
Even then, you can't be sure.
I've now tried 4 times to sign the petition. Not working.
Hey everyone, new thread on this, and Jim Rob threw out a tease:
Steffen Apologizes, Ehrlich Launches Investigation
Try it. It is amazing.
When you see the long time background of being pro gay agenda pushing of the author writing the hit article, light bulbs start really go off.
Excellent summary on what is going on.
"I do exactly that all the time. It's become very clear to me that a large number of the media types pushing far-leftist, America-hating, Culture of Death issues have more than an academic interest in buggery."
The Guardian and many Canadian so called news outlets are loaded with these maggots.
I will ping both of you when I do these searches and find the long documentation with the gay agenda.