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Scandal Puts Focus On Role of Bloggers (WaPo on FR, NCPAC and MD4Bush)
Washington Post ^ | 02/11/05 | David Snyder and Matthew Mosk

Posted on 02/10/2005 10:41:44 PM PST by conservative in nyc

The Web site began as a sort of Internet boutique for like-minded conservatives and libertarians, suspicious of federal power and angry at President Bill Clinton.

Started in 1997 by a reclusive California conservative, freerepublic.com saw its membership blossom with Clinton's impeachment and the election of George W. Bush. Attention to the site reached a zenith last fall, when a "freeper" -- the group's moniker for its bloggers -- first discussed flaws in documents CBS News used in a report critical of Bush's National Guard service.

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One participant working under the handle MD4BUSH, whose identity is unknown, drew Steffen into a private conversation and appeared to coax him to share more details about his role in spreading the rumor. Copies of those chat room e-mails were later provided to The Washington Post.

The Oct. 18 conversation began with MD4BUSH complimenting Steffen and saying how obvious it was that the rumors about the mayor were true. Steffen, writing under the name NCPAC, replied:

"I don't look for the MO'M [O'Malley] story to hit for a little bit yet. . . . However, a lot of what everyone knows about MO'M is because of work that has occurred. It's been a wild ride."

MD4BUSH later probed further:

"Your saying that my dentist knows [about the rumors] because of work you did? Wow, I must say, I'm impressed. I mean really, everyone knows -- how did that happen?"

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Free Republic; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: compost; ecpa; freerepublic; gannon; kristinn; md4bush; media; mediabias; msm; ncpac; odoherty; omalley; ryanodoherty
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To: Antoninus

Good point


551 posted on 02/11/2005 8:22:52 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Alia

Fyi


552 posted on 02/11/2005 8:23:36 AM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Olesker has been around forever. Very liberal. It does look like he gave it away -- "in e-mails to the Washington Post."

Olesker has written millions of words but he best remembered for these, when he was working for the now-defunct Baltimore News-American:

"The Baltimore Sun comes out daily with all the warmth, joy, humor and compassion of a bank vault."


553 posted on 02/11/2005 8:24:02 AM PST by jjmcgo
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To: Grampa Dave
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554 posted on 02/11/2005 8:24:37 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Antoninus
Relations between the Sun and the Ehrlich administration are so bad that the administration refuses to even speak with one of their columnists and one of their reporters. The Baltimore Sun has sued the Ehrlich administration over this.

See kcvl's dredging up of a World Net Daily article from late last year here.
555 posted on 02/11/2005 8:26:37 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: nicmarlo; Grampa Dave
Well, I probably would be, but somewhat wouldn't be....it's becoming more and more obvious that many are aligned with the pro-homosexual activists. As I said, I'd be very interested in any efforts to "out" these types of reporters.

Check in with Grampa dave then.

556 posted on 02/11/2005 8:27:38 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Can't access the site. Rec'd the following message:

"To our Readers:
washingtonpost.com is undergoing maintenance and some sections
of the site are temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience. Of course,
the latest news and updates will continue to be available on our home page."


557 posted on 02/11/2005 8:27:41 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

ROFL! Gene Gene the Dancing Machine...OMG


558 posted on 02/11/2005 8:30:50 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave

Hey, Grampa....you got something going on "outing" reporters aligned with the pro-homosexual agenda? I'd be interested in helping gather information or being pinged to same.


559 posted on 02/11/2005 8:32:03 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: lilylangtree

that's odd, lily....I was able to access the article, just now. maybe it's up again.


560 posted on 02/11/2005 8:33:48 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

See his post at #537.


561 posted on 02/11/2005 8:34:55 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: advance_copy

You are so right. The transceiver is under a sand trap by the eighth green, planted there by Ray Floyd's father when he was the golf pro there.


562 posted on 02/11/2005 8:37:46 AM PST by jjmcgo
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To: Map Kernow
...George bush must win...

A true Bush supporter would not be so lax about capitalizing his name, imo. On a home page, there is adequate time to catch and correct such an error, if one really wants to.

563 posted on 02/11/2005 8:38:59 AM PST by ride the whirlwind
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To: Grampa Dave; scripter; EdReform; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Whenever, I see an article, oped, or something from a news service blasting GW, Rummy, Conservatives, Christians, Republicans, and our military, I run a Yahoo search on the author's name with Gay added.

I see that scripter and EdReform already saw this....good idea; I'll keep it in mind!

564 posted on 02/11/2005 8:39:19 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: MeekOneGOP

"The blogosphere "is the international waters of the Internet age -- a lawless area where anything goes," said Matthew Felling, media director for the nonpartisan Center for Media and Public Affairs. "Sometimes that means information the quote-unquote mainstream media are keeping you from, and sometimes that means rumors the mainstream media responsibly ignores."
Ah! There you go! So when the Washington ComPost buries a story, they are being "responsible"."

Exactly right. The Trenton state house reporters knew about McGreevey and Cipel but kept the story from the public. Despite the fact that so-called "gay rights" are being pushed in politics, McGreevey was able to get away with being a gay person pushing a secret gay agenda without the public knowing his true nature.
The Associated Press made a big spash by re-assigning three state-house reporters but they're back now.


565 posted on 02/11/2005 8:42:50 AM PST by jjmcgo
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Gene Gene the Dancing Machine.. llllooollll


GONGGGGGG!!!!!!


566 posted on 02/11/2005 8:42:54 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: nicmarlo
Web has changed the shape of 'reporting' (Balt Sun Lurking; FR and NCPAC mentioned)
567 posted on 02/11/2005 8:45:56 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks for the ping.


568 posted on 02/11/2005 8:46:21 AM PST by GOPJ (Jacksonville and the NFL did us proud. Thanks for a great show.)
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To: MD4Bush

Any thoughts?


569 posted on 02/11/2005 8:47:59 AM PST by woofie
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To: conservative in nyc

RE: Who is Michael Olesker? Did he just slip up here -- BIG TIME? Or is he just wrong about MD4BUSH's identity?

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Michael Olesker is a regular, high profile columnist who is in an ongoing feud with Governor Ehrlich. He said something that the Governor said was a serious misquote last summer, so the Gov told his staff in Annapolis not to talk to Olesker until an apology was issued. - still waiting, as far as I know--

Governor Ehrlich was on the phone to our 9am talk show at 9:06am, steaming about this comment in Olesker's comment - another misquote according to the governor.


570 posted on 02/11/2005 8:50:40 AM PST by maica (Ask a Dem: "When did promoting Democracy and Freedom in the World become a Bad Thing??")
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To: Alia

Pseudonym *ping*.. fyi


571 posted on 02/11/2005 8:51:13 AM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Bottom line is, whether pacific or east coast time, there is no way compost can claim that they got the e-mails from the public post by MD4. They either got illicit copies of private messages, or MD4 is a compost/DUmbocrat operative. WaPo has no integrity, none, zip, zero, nada (to quote maha rushie). The irony is that today's compost story points their stinky little finger at the internet, when they are the disgusting liars.


572 posted on 02/11/2005 9:00:23 AM PST by advance_copy
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To: CyberAnt

"So .. what I see is the SLIMY media is sending people over to FR to corner people into private "chat" and then they have copies of all the conversations.

I don't like it. It's a form of entrapment."

Aren't reporters 'posed to identify themselves? Anything regarding the law?


573 posted on 02/11/2005 9:00:40 AM PST by Getsmart64 (..)
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To: freebilly

I agree that the average FR poster probably doesn't care that much if the Baltimore Mayor is behaving in similar fashion to his Police Commissioner and buddy, who is now in jail for using gov funds for his mistress (mistresses?). (The rumors about O'Malley were posted, irresponsibly IMHO, to the Baltimore Sun talk forum, long before a FReeper asked if the rumors were true and most responding FReepers debunked or through cold water on the rumors.)

The original Gannon story was the news that there was a conservative (gasp, hide the women and children) in the White House Press Corps (WHPC), most FReepers sure didn't think that was a scandal. The real scandal there was the lack of ideological diversity, often resulting in group think, among the WHPC. However, much of the WHPC thought it was a scandal that a conservative was among them, especially one who worked for a less-known new media outlet, making him an easy target for attack.

Two real scandals have now broken.

First, a mischaracterization of NCPAC's actions by the WaPo and the rest of the jackals in the media pack. As the last paragraph of the current WaPo article (much better and more balanced article than the rest) makes clear, NCPAC commented on the rumor, but did not appear to be spreading it.

The scandalous mischaracterization is being used to bloody Gov. Ehrlich by his political opponents and their willing accomplices in the media.

The scandalous mischaracterization is also being used by much of old media to trash the internet in general and FR in particular.

The scandal in the Gannon case is that the NY Times-owned Boston Globe (a former virtual subdidiary of the Kerry campaign) investigated journalist Gannon because he deviated too far from the liberals' group think. They trashed him as a phony journalist with an agenda, something that they never did with, for example, Helen Thomas. Further the media now use the case to further trash the internet, bloggers, etc.


574 posted on 02/11/2005 9:03:36 AM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: BillF; MD4Bush

Well, this has been an interesting week. I'm pretty convinced that MD4BUSH is an operative from Left, whether they are employed by The Compost or the Baltimore Fishwrap or not...

Hey, MD4BUSH - any comment on this, or are you too cowardly to show up and answer for this? We're waiting...


575 posted on 02/11/2005 9:07:29 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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576 posted on 02/11/2005 9:09:02 AM PST by P_A_I
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To: cyncooper

I believe it's Wednesday.


577 posted on 02/11/2005 9:13:04 AM PST by lightingguy (Sorry, I got distracted)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks for the ping!


578 posted on 02/11/2005 9:17:48 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Chad Fairbanks

The FReepmails from MD4Bush certainly show that he was either overzealous in the extreme or was trying to entrap NCPAC. Of course, as you can see from the last few paragraphs of the WaPo story, NCPAC refused to help spread the rumor, thus showing that the whole media circus is based on a lie.

NCPAC commented on a rumor, but did not spread it as far as can be determined on this record.


579 posted on 02/11/2005 9:20:47 AM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: MEG33; Lazamataz; Kay; nunya bidness; moonpie57; des; Ernest_at_the_Beach
If I'm going off base here, folks, please guide me home. However...
 
THIS IS GREAT!
 
The enemy has engaged, has returned fire, and, baby, the battle is on. They may have won a skirmish, but they've admitted there's a war.
 
 
 
Mr Burns

580 posted on 02/11/2005 9:36:13 AM PST by AnnaZ (Repent. The end is nigh.)
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To: jjmcgo
The Associated Press made a big spash by re-assigning
three state-house reporters but they're back now.

Aw, Jeez! Why am I NOT surprised?


581 posted on 02/11/2005 9:44:50 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: BillF
NCPAC commented on a rumor, but did not spread it as far as can be determined on this record.

Agreed.

thus showing that the whole media circus is based on a lie.

Doesn't really matter with the MSM - as long as they can raise doubts about something, just enough that there are questions, then they consider themselves to be Investigative Journalists. In reality, they are a joke.

582 posted on 02/11/2005 9:45:51 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Lazamataz
Please, people, add whatever you think might be helpful <<

1: If you wanna dance, avoid the killing floor of self-importance.

2: Always remember: Sometimes it's good to have a secret.

3: When kidnapped by space invaders, do not AUTOMATICALLY assume they are MSM plants. That would be paranoid.

583 posted on 02/11/2005 9:46:49 AM PST by alcuin ( I apologize for not being clear.getridofthateffinlooselipssinkshipsgesture)
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To: beyond the sea

Thanks for the ping.


584 posted on 02/11/2005 9:48:09 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: MJY1288
History will record these times as the downfall of the Democrat Party

This DOES look like one of those "turning points of history"

585 posted on 02/11/2005 9:58:43 AM PST by CDB
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To: conservative in nyc; All

Psssssssst, Over Here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1341174/posts

Just saw this


586 posted on 02/11/2005 9:59:29 AM PST by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

I should say that this WaPo article was relatively good.

It erroneously referred to FReepers as bloggers at some points, as they apparently don't know the difference between a blog and a forum.

Most importantly though, this article avoided the mischaracterizations and slant in previous articles in the WaPo and elsewhere.


587 posted on 02/11/2005 10:02:35 AM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: MEG33

Anyone who doe's not agree with the group think on FR is called a troll. Maybe this is why some people get even by doing harmful things. It is not the happiest moment to donate to the site and then be banned. I have read comments like that about FR on other sites. Not my problem just relaying what I have read. Some posters on this site seem to be more equal than others. Shades of Animal Farm.


588 posted on 02/11/2005 10:04:25 AM PST by ACDSWIZ
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To: Jim Robinson
I think MD4Bush has some splainin' to do

Does his IP address do any splainin' for him?

589 posted on 02/11/2005 10:07:48 AM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: ACDSWIZ

Wah!


590 posted on 02/11/2005 10:09:10 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: ACDSWIZ

Bless your heart..


591 posted on 02/11/2005 10:10:16 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: bad company
BTW the very first post on FR for MD4Bush, was to NCPAC.

Sounds like someone who knew what the NCPAC org was and was able to connect the dots.

Probably either an O'Malley strategist(or reporter), or someone who works for one.

592 posted on 02/11/2005 10:12:16 AM PST by Dan from Michigan (Republican Party Reptile)
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To: MEG33
"Nobody knows WHO is on the internet unless you have personally met them..."

Even then, you can't be sure.

593 posted on 02/11/2005 10:15:29 AM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (If starvation & dehydration are painless, make them the method of preference for Capital Punishment.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I've now tried 4 times to sign the petition. Not working.


594 posted on 02/11/2005 10:15:54 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: All

Hey everyone, new thread on this, and Jim Rob threw out a tease:

Steffen Apologizes, Ehrlich Launches Investigation

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1341174/posts?page=20


595 posted on 02/11/2005 10:23:44 AM PST by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; JesseJane
I am dead serious about this being a major war.

You and I and other FReepers are in the dead center of this battle - whether we realize that or not. The Leftists who "went into journalism" in the 60s and 70s to "change the world" are at war with traditional values of traditional America. Their major obstacle now, and for some years, has been the internet.

It is only since Drudge's "blue dress" report that they became even peripherally aware of that. The 'net carrying the SwiftVets to prominence, and the rapid destruction of CBS' FRAUDcast, to name only two recent battles, has brought the Old Media to realize that they are under attack, at long last. Their walls are crumbling, and their empire is failing. Bush's victory despite FOUR YEARS of bashing by the Old Media talking heads and transparent bias of the MSM news to those of us who have worked toward understanding the truth, was a severe blow to them. They will be reeling for two years from this and won't be able to believe it.

They don't like it, and they will fight this as hard as they can. They'll do all they can to deter more people from joining the ranks of those free from their influence. But - they will lose in the end.
596 posted on 02/11/2005 10:30:23 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: nicmarlo

Try it. It is amazing.

When you see the long time background of being pro gay agenda pushing of the author writing the hit article, light bulbs start really go off.


597 posted on 02/11/2005 10:33:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: BillF

Excellent summary on what is going on.


598 posted on 02/11/2005 10:34:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: Antoninus; nicmarlo

"I do exactly that all the time. It's become very clear to me that a large number of the media types pushing far-leftist, America-hating, Culture of Death issues have more than an academic interest in buggery."

The Guardian and many Canadian so called news outlets are loaded with these maggots.

I will ping both of you when I do these searches and find the long documentation with the gay agenda.


599 posted on 02/11/2005 10:38:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: conservative in nyc
This whole thing could have been avoided IF O'MALLEY HAD STOPPED CHEATING ON HIS WIFE!!!!!
600 posted on 02/11/2005 10:39:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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