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Cheney Daughter Also Rises -- at State Department
Reuters ^ | 02/15/05

Posted on 02/15/2005 6:14:20 AM PST by nypokerface

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Elizabeth Cheney, the daughter of Vice President Dick Cheney, will become the second-ranking U.S. diplomat for the Middle East, the State Department said on Monday.

Cheney, who previously worked in the department's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs and left to work on her father's 2004 re-election campaign, will become the bureau's principal deputy assistant secretary of state.

This is the bureau's second ranking position and deputizes for the assistant secretary of state for near eastern affairs, the top U.S. diplomat for the Middle East.

State Department spokesman Richard Boucher told reporters Cheney would also serve as "coordinator for Broader Middle East and North Africa Initiatives" -- a U.S.-backed idea to try to spread democratic and economic reform in the region.

"Her duties will include a focus on U.S. bilateral and multilateral efforts to support freedom, democracy and expanded education and economic opportunities in the broader Middle East and North Africa," he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: cheney; elizabethcheney; lizcheney; middleeast; statedept; term2

1 posted on 02/15/2005 6:14:20 AM PST by nypokerface
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To: nypokerface

Got to hand it to her for a mother of 4 children.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 6:17:51 AM PST by oilfieldtrash
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To: nypokerface

She was quite impressive during the Presidential campaign. She was used in the last few months on tv. I saw her on Today show, ABC and Fox and she was fantastic.


3 posted on 02/15/2005 6:23:25 AM PST by Republican Red (DU: ''Reality sucks. That's the problem. We want another reality.'')
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To: nypokerface
Elizabeth Cheney appears to be rising star. Here's a WaPo story on her earlier job that she did quite well in. Preparing for Democracy
4 posted on 02/15/2005 6:32:00 AM PST by cloud8
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To: nypokerface

She must have Condi's trust.


5 posted on 02/15/2005 6:33:50 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: nypokerface

Great news! Elizabeth Cheney is a very impressive woman. This will drive the liberal wackos up a tree!


6 posted on 02/15/2005 6:34:49 AM PST by PilloryHillary (Can vegetarians eat animal crackers?)
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To: oilfieldtrash

She is a mini-me of her mom. Very impressive


7 posted on 02/15/2005 6:34:51 AM PST by UB355
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To: nypokerface

Hard to imagine that this is based on merit.


8 posted on 02/15/2005 6:35:49 AM PST by Ranger
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To: nypokerface

Kudos to Liz. She was great during the last few months of the Presidential campaign, making numerous media appearances on behalf of the Bush/Cheney campaign.


9 posted on 02/15/2005 6:40:12 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Smoke free since January 16, 2005)
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To: Ranger

Ranger, you're kidding, right?

Liz is fabulous...a possible future contender for first woman Pres or Veep.


10 posted on 02/15/2005 6:49:09 AM PST by norge
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To: norge

Oh yeah, and pretty as a picture.


11 posted on 02/15/2005 6:49:53 AM PST by norge
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To: nypokerface

Hate to be a party-pooper, but doesn't she have young children? Seems like a pretty time-intensive job for a mother of young kids. It may be non-PC to say it, but kids with absentee parents often end up with some serious mental/emotional problems. But I guess motherhood is not nearly as important as a high-profile job, eh?


12 posted on 02/15/2005 6:59:29 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces )
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To: Ranger
Hard to imagine that this is based on merit.

That's because you know nothing about her, isn't it?

FMCDH(BITS)

13 posted on 02/15/2005 7:04:17 AM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: Antoninus

Its the state department. They require the air they breath to be politically correct.

Sec. Rice may seem to be good but the institution below is quite often (iow regularly) at odds with GWBush and anything conservative.


14 posted on 02/15/2005 7:21:16 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Antoninus
But I guess motherhood is not nearly as important as a high-profile job, eh?

I agree with you, and I go as far as all women in government, no matter what party. But since it's here, best to choose the best to do it. (I have to admit, my wife is better at multi-tasking than I, but that could just me)

FMCDH(BITS)

15 posted on 02/15/2005 7:22:57 AM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: Ranger

You would be most naive if you thought it was based on merit.


16 posted on 02/15/2005 7:24:44 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: Ranger

**Hard to imagine that this is based on merit.**

Why? On what basis or are you being sarcastic?


17 posted on 02/15/2005 10:05:59 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: Antoninus
**kids with absentee parents often end up with some serious mental/emotional problems. But I guess motherhood is not nearly as important as a high-profile job, eh?**

She didn't turn out bad herself did she and her mother has always worked? The main thing is that the child knows that they are loved when the parents are there you can have parents around all time but the loving is not there. The Cheneys are close to their children and grandchildren and it is obvious that the Perry family are close and loving. Liz is a highly intelligent lady who needs this stimulation she would be discontented and under fulfilled and therefore not a good parent if she was with her children 24/7.
18 posted on 02/15/2005 10:14:09 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: norge
I agree and a good mother as well here is the whole family at the RNC last year.



19 posted on 02/15/2005 10:18:32 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: nypokerface

What, no hearings? LOL


20 posted on 02/15/2005 10:22:57 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: nothingnew; JustaCowgirl
A proud mother looks on whilst her youngest daughter is being held by GWB


The grandfather looks pretty proud as well.

To: Justacowgirl, for your interest Liz Cheney (Perry) thread

21 posted on 02/15/2005 10:24:45 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: snugs
She didn't turn out bad herself did she and her mother has always worked?

Careful, some will blame Mrs. Cheney for Mary's lifestyle. I love that family and agree with your sentiments.

A working mother is not the equivalent of an absentee mother. I bet the Cheney & Perry families know what is important in life. I would not be surprised if she and her husband have arranged life so one of them is with the kids as much as possible. It is possible to balance a life and a career. As long as families do not lose sight of what is important.

22 posted on 02/15/2005 10:35:30 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
**Careful, some will blame Mrs. Cheney for Mary's lifestyle. I love that family and agree with your sentiments.**

I must admit as I typed it I thought about the Mary comment being thrown at me but again it is obvious she loves them and they love her. I respect them for this whilst I may not agree with Mary's lifestyle but that is another story and another thread.

I agree entirely about your comments of balancing and it is obvious how the children behave with their parents that this is done correctly they are not strangers but a close family you can tell in the nature non awkward way the children behave.
23 posted on 02/15/2005 10:45:02 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: Ranger
Hard to imagine that this is based on merit.

Ever met her or spent any time with her?

I have. I was with her and some Afghan women this summer for several hours. She is an impressive woman and deserves this position. She is accomplished in her own right.

24 posted on 02/15/2005 11:18:29 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (An invisible man marries an invisible woman. The kids were nothing to look at either.)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Cheney fan ping


25 posted on 02/15/2005 11:27:40 AM PST by WestCoastGal (Daytona 500 ~ 5 days!___ Gatorade Duel Races this Thursday 1pm ET)
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To: snugs
Liz is a highly intelligent lady who needs this stimulation she would be discontented and under fulfilled and therefore not a good parent if she was with her children 24/7.

Yeah, parenting is *so* intellectually rotting and boring. What gibberish. Motherhood is the ultimate example of selflessness and the greatest investment a person can make in the future. It takes a superlative person to make a great mother. I feel bad for kids when their parents abandon them to chase fame and fortune. Duty is one thing, status and position is quite another.
26 posted on 02/15/2005 12:11:05 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces )
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To: snugs
I must admit as I typed it I thought about the Mary comment being thrown at me.

No need to throw it back at you. You're perceptive enough to pick it out on your own. You're just not wise enough, perhaps, to accept the truth for what it is.
27 posted on 02/15/2005 12:13:35 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces )
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

We've got 150,000 people at war in the middle east. This high level position needs to be unambiguously based on merit and an ability to influence world affairs. With all respect to her and your opinion and experience, this is a bad idea.


28 posted on 02/15/2005 12:22:57 PM PST by Ranger
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To: snugs

What a cute picture. I'd bet the president would like grandchildren of his own.


29 posted on 02/15/2005 1:58:47 PM PST by Irish Rose ("And I learned with little labour/to love my fellow-man, and hate my next-door neighbor...")
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To: nypokerface

Does anyone know what this job would entail--whether some of it could be done from home, what travel would be involved and how frequently, etc.? From the pictures on this thread I gather she has not only small children but a small baby, and if he is breast-fed...


30 posted on 02/15/2005 2:04:21 PM PST by Irish Rose ("And I learned with little labour/to love my fellow-man, and hate my next-door neighbor...")
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To: Ranger
Agreed. As we say whenever some democrat's relative wins a job, "Of all the people in the nation, this is the very best one for the job?"

I'm not jumping to conclusions, I have no idea if her Middle East experience is wide and deep, and if anyone has info about that I'd love to read it so I can defend her against my liberal friends' attacks. I think it's great she's been a mom, and a good chatter on the TV shows, but what is her protfolio for getting one of the most important jobs in government?

Would we be praising her this way if she were former VP Gore's daughter, and had the exact same background?

31 posted on 02/15/2005 2:19:26 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone...I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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To: Antoninus
**Yeah, parenting is *so* intellectually rotting and boring. What gibberish.**

I never said that; some people enjoy and are good at being with children all the time others may love their children but to be with them all the time is counter productive. I have a friend who is an excellent mother does loads of things with the children at weekends but freely admits she could not be with all day long and is a better mother for working outside the home with adult company and stimulation for part of the day.

***I feel bad for kids when their parents abandon them to chase fame and fortune. Duty is one thing, status and position is quite another***

The Perry children are not abandoned they are part of a secure loving family where they are being taught how to be what you are and not conform to what others expect of you especially if you are a Republican family. This is a modern family where women working outside the home is not only accepted but encouraged and is not seen as a dereliction of family duty.
32 posted on 02/15/2005 3:27:16 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: Darkwolf377

Right. The stakes are just too high.


33 posted on 02/15/2005 4:33:04 PM PST by Ranger
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To: Ranger

I have 5 children and I couldn't do it. Good luck for her marriage and her children. So much for family values in the RNC.


34 posted on 02/15/2005 4:38:58 PM PST by tbird5
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To: snugs
This is a modern family where women working outside the home is not only accepted but encouraged and is not seen as a dereliction of family duty.

Please. I know more women who feel forced to work and wish they could stay home with their kids. And more often than not, such "modern" marriages where husband and wife both work, end up in divorce. The "modern" family has produced no end of mental and emotional pathologies in its children. The credo of the "modern" family seems to be "It's all about me--my fulfillment, my desires, my occupational goals. The needs of the children are strictly secondary. They're nice to have on stage, though, for photo-ops."

The "modern" marriage is a disaster in progress and society has yet to suffer its full effects. I leave this thread with some quotes from Teddy Roosevelt:

On motherhood as the true source of progress, Teddy Roosevelt said:

"A more supreme instance of unselfishness than is afforded by motherhood cannot be imagined."

Before an audience of liberal Christian theologians in 1911, he said:

"If you do not believe in your own stock enough to see the stock kept up, then you are not good Americans, you are not patriots, and ... I for one shall not mourn your extinction; and in such event I shall welcome the advent of a new race that will take your place, because you wil have shown that you are not fit to cumber the ground."

On the centrality of the child-rich family to the very existence of the American nation:

"It is in the life of the family, upon which in the last analysis the whole welfare of the nation rests....The nation is nothing but the aggregate of the families within its borders."

On parenthood:

"No other success in life, not being President, or being wealthy, or going to college, or anything else, comes up to the success of the man and woman who can feel that they have done their duty and that their children and grandchildren rise up to call them blessed."

On out-of-wedlock birth versus practiced sterility:

"After all, such a vice may be compatible with a nation's continuing to live, and while there is life, even a life marred by wrong practices, there is a chance of reform.

In another place, on the same subject:

"...[W]hile there is life, there is hope, whereas nothing can be done with the dead."

On the behavior of 90% of those who practice birth control:

"[It is derived] from viciousness, coldness, shallow-heartedness, self-indulgence, or mere failure to appreciate aright the difference between the all-important and the unimportant."

On the "pitiable" child-rearing record of graduates of women's colleges like Vassar and Smith who bore only 0.86 of a child each during their lifetimes:

"Do these colleges teach 'domestic science'?... There is something radically wrong with the home training and school training that produces such results."
35 posted on 02/16/2005 6:55:05 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces )
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To: Darkwolf377

Some details of Liz Cheney(Perry)

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Professional Experience-
Deputy assistant secretary, Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, Department of State, 2002-2003

-Attorney, White and Case, LLP, 1996-1999-

Director of vice-presidential debate preparation, Bush-Cheney Campaign, 2000-

Attorney (Middle East and Central Asia), International Finance Corporation, World Bank, 1999-2002-

Special assistant to the deputy secretary of state (U.S. assistance projects in the former Soviet Union and China), 1992-1993-

Interim representative in Poland; desk officer for China; project development officer in Hungary; U.S. Agency for International Development, 1989-1992-

Consultant (Kenya and Uganda election), International Republican Institute, 1993

Education
J.D., University of ChicagoB.A., Colorado College




As one can clearly see from the above her foreign affairs experience is extensive and clearly the position has been made on merit.


36 posted on 02/16/2005 10:51:50 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: snugs

Thanks for the info, but the idea that one can "clearly" see this was based in merit is an opinion I don't share.


37 posted on 02/16/2005 2:22:50 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone...I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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