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Warning: This site will make your blood boil (my title) [Hoax site by white power loon]
"Forsake The Troops" ^

Posted on 02/23/2005 12:43:51 PM PST by mhking

​ ​​​​Forsake The Troops started off as Citizens Against the Troops, an organization founded in the Summer of 2004. We currently have fifteen members in our organization, spanning all across this country. Our founder, and leader's name is Scott Vogel, who currently resides in Southern New Jersey. Other members have their bios available as well. To view those, click here.

Our position is that as it stands currently, the compensation, benefit, and retirement packages that our active duty and retired military personnel get is outrageous, and undeserved. The American taxpayer is supporting the military enlistee, when said person made the decision to become a walking, talking target for Uncle Sam, and "Yuk Yuk" Bush. They made the choice to leech off of the American taxpayer, therefore we must do our part as taxpayers to recoup our funds, or at the very least stop this obscene abuse of our taxes.

Our intention is not to inspire, suggest, or joke about violence towards the military; rather, our goal is to eventually approach Congress about completely revamping the military pay structure. Despite common opinion, we are not a hate group, that we do not condone acts of violence, or any illegal acts towards military facilities or personnel.


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This is from the "About" page of a site entitled "Forsake the Troops," from some moonbat who purports to "hate" the troops and what they stand for.
1 posted on 02/23/2005 12:43:58 PM PST by mhking
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
WARNING: This site will make your blood boil.

I'm furious over this idiot and what he's actually had the audacity to post...

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

2 posted on 02/23/2005 12:45:37 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: mhking

"fifteen members in our organization, spanning all across this country"

15 people spans all across the country? Are we talking about Lichtenstein?


3 posted on 02/23/2005 12:47:27 PM PST by VRWCisme
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To: mhking
15 members, spanning the country? Why didn't they just say "Spanning the Globe?"

Sounds like a small Girl Scout troop...

4 posted on 02/23/2005 12:47:32 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: mhking
We currently have fifteen members in our organization, spanning all across this country

Such power in numbers!

5 posted on 02/23/2005 12:47:38 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: mhking

15 whole members, huh?

Heck, I've got 50 times that on the Live Thread ping list, how about you?


6 posted on 02/23/2005 12:47:40 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: mhking
We currently have fifteen members in our organization, spanning all across this country

As there are 50 states in the union, I would hardly think that a membership of 15 spans the country.
7 posted on 02/23/2005 12:47:53 PM PST by mike182d
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To: mhking
This guy and his "group" need to quietly disappear......
8 posted on 02/23/2005 12:48:53 PM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: mhking

I think this must be a joke. Read thier bios, I think it is in jest.


9 posted on 02/23/2005 12:48:54 PM PST by PubliusEXMachina (Ashely's Story)
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To: mhking
No, they're not a hate group.

They are, however, offensively stupid. Stupid beyond comprehension. Stupid to the point that someone very nice and patient has to follow them around holding the drool cup.

These guys make Oliver Willis' readers look like a NASA science team. They have the collective IQ of a rotting grape fruit.

Observe them closely. We could learn new insights about how human beings function with severe brain damage.
10 posted on 02/23/2005 12:49:26 PM PST by .cnI redruM ("I think that I have a fairly good understanding of what constitutes insider information," -Soros)
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Fifteen members! LOL!


11 posted on 02/23/2005 12:49:29 PM PST by LanPB01
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To: mhking

We currently have fifteen members in our organization, spanning all across this country.



They may not be a "hate" group but they are certainly a braying jack joke group. Bet they have their own secret handshake and wear special hats, tinfoil of course.


12 posted on 02/23/2005 12:50:03 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Howlin
Heck, I've got 50 times that on the Live Thread ping list, how about you?

Ditto...

13 posted on 02/23/2005 12:50:29 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: mhking
Wow, I sort of like this logic, so long as we carry it into all areas.. Revamp the pay for congresscritters, judges, civil servants...

Oh, right, keep forgetting, these groups only hate the military. That's why they say they're not a hate group.

Useless trash on the Internet. Someone do the world a favor and wisk it into the dustcan.
14 posted on 02/23/2005 12:51:09 PM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: mhking

What a bunch of pathetic losers.


15 posted on 02/23/2005 12:51:11 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: mhking
Despite common opinion, we are not a hate group...

Hmmmmm...I give up. What kind of group are you?

16 posted on 02/23/2005 12:51:52 PM PST by Lekker 1 ("Airplanes are interesting toys, but of no military value"-Ferdinand Foch, French War College, 1911)
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To: mhking
What 'leeching off Uncle Sam' gov't. plan allowed this author to get himself/herself an education, enjoy the benefits of this society in peace and prosperity, live securely, travel freely and in safety, practice a religion of his/her choice (or not), raise his/her children without fear of harm or oppression, cherish the certainty of a peaceful and prosperous future for his/her children, etc.? Where do these idiots come from?
17 posted on 02/23/2005 12:52:17 PM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus to his sons)
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To: crazyhorse691
secret handshake and wear special hats

They probably wear a stupid bracelet too.

18 posted on 02/23/2005 12:52:17 PM PST by just me (Over 59,000,000 Americans voted not to negotiate with terrorist.....)
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To: mhking

Astonishing that your group opposes military, yet without the military you would not be able to write your stupid column, all 15 would be shot under any other circumstance..... you just don't get it


19 posted on 02/23/2005 12:52:22 PM PST by Burlem
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To: mhking; radu; bentfeather; Diva Betsy Ross; pelikan; All

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!

Ok, the third one's a charm. First the harassment of recruiter Sgt. Due in Seattle. Second the hate letters to Pfc. Jacobs in Korea. Now this. I'm telling you, I am going to need BP meds.

My uncle is afraid that what happened to him when he returned from Nam will start happening again. I pray FERVENTLY that he is wrong, but these stories seem to be spiraling. I for one will NOT sit down and shut up. Our soldiers are heroes. #$%& anyone who says otherwise.


20 posted on 02/23/2005 12:52:46 PM PST by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: bill1952
Sounds like a small Girl Scout troop...

A small girl scout troop could probably kick their sorry a$$es.

21 posted on 02/23/2005 12:52:58 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: mhking
We currently have fifteen members in our organization, spanning all across this country.

Wow! If they stand hand-in-hand in a straight line, they can almost span across my entire DRIVEWAY!!!

Idiots.

22 posted on 02/23/2005 12:53:09 PM PST by TBarnett34 ("Unnngh!" -John F'n Kerry, 11/2/04)
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To: mhking

Apparently they are as short on bandwidth as they are brains.


23 posted on 02/23/2005 12:54:11 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: mhking

I posted my two cents in the guestbook. I called them ignorant ingrates.


24 posted on 02/23/2005 12:54:56 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: LanPB01

Did you read the comments/feedback? I left my thoughts!


26 posted on 02/23/2005 12:55:44 PM PST by PatriotCJC
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To: mhking

The "moonbat" will probably get enough people (sheeple) to follow him, declare his org. non-profit and collect a comfy salary for himself to run the organization.


27 posted on 02/23/2005 12:55:49 PM PST by FishFace222
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To: mhking
Keep Looking Liberal!
Click the Pic J

28 posted on 02/23/2005 12:56:26 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: mhking
Our position is that as it stands currently, the compensation, benefit, and retirement packages that our active duty and retired military personnel get is outrageous, and undeserved. The American taxpayer is supporting the military enlistee, when said person made the decision to become a walking, talking target for Uncle Sam, and "Yuk Yuk" Bush. They made the choice to leech off of the American taxpayer, therefore we must do our part as taxpayers to recoup our funds, or at the very least stop this obscene abuse of our taxes.

I wonder if they're equally outraged at all the other public officials who receive government pension plans. Interesting that there's no mention of them in here.

And what's this about "retired military personnel" and the reference to "Yuk Yuk" Bush? (No, they're not a hate group). They must realize that not all the retired military personnel signed up when Bush was president.

29 posted on 02/23/2005 12:56:45 PM PST by BlackRazor
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To: mhking

There are some great comments in their guest book. One guy referred to them as "a pair of clown shoes".


30 posted on 02/23/2005 12:57:17 PM PST by SilentServiceCPOWife (Romeo&Juliet, Troilus&Crisedye, Bogey&Bacall, Gable&Lombard, Brigitte&Flav)
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To: mhking

Actually it made me laugh. Check out the bios.

Bio for Scott Vogel
Scott Vogel is the founder and leader of Forsake The Troops, formerly Citizens Against the Troops.

Scott, 32, who also supports the abolishment of the Freedom of Information Act, was born and raised in Southern New Jersey, graduating from Oakcrest High School in Mays Landing. Mr. Vogel resides on his isolated, secured compound within the woods of South Jersey.

Mr. Vogel has never served in the military, nor does he have any desire to. Furthermore, Mr. Vogel has a general detestment for any form of law enforcement or authority, though it should be stressed that he does not endorse, or desire to bring harm or harrassment to them. Mr. Vogel and FTT webmaster The Bringer of Truth are distant cousins.

Mr. Vogel may be reached via e-mail at svogel@forsakethetroops.info.


Bio for The Bringer of Truth
The Bringer of Truth is the webmaster and lead moderator for the FTT website, and has been a member since the group's inception.

The Bringer of Truth is 29, and is currently dating Laurie Vogel, also a member, and sister of founder Scott Vogel.

The Bringer of Truth also attended Oakcrest High School in Mays Landing, New Jersey, and attended college in the area, as well. He has never served in the military.

The Bringer of Truth is opposed to all forms of the military and law enforcement.

The Bringer of Truth may be reached at truthbringer@forsakethetroops.info.


Bio for Laurie Vogel
Laurie Vogel is the a moderator for the FTT website, and has been a member since the group's inception. Laurie is 19, and is dating The Bringer of Truth. The couple are expecting a baby, due in September.

Laurie attended Oakcrest High School in Mays Landing, New Jersey.

Laurie's opposed to all forms of the military.

Laurie may be reached at laurie@forsakethetroops.info.


31 posted on 02/23/2005 12:58:07 PM PST by Lost Highway (http://www.therightbrothers.com The Right Brothers)
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To: Dashing Dasher
Screw that!

:o)


32 posted on 02/23/2005 12:58:49 PM PST by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: mhking
They made the choice to leech off of the American taxpayer, therefore we must do our part as taxpayers to recoup our funds, or at the very least stop this obscene abuse of our taxes

I am not one to use cusswords on these boards, but this line is total, complete bullshit! (I'll understand, Mods if you yank this comment). These are people that obviously have never spent a single day in uniform, or have ANY idea of the sacrifies military members and their families make each and every single day so that these cretins can spout off about us being MOOCHERS!!! How DARE they?!

33 posted on 02/23/2005 12:59:05 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: mhking

Idiots. Freep em to death.


34 posted on 02/23/2005 12:59:20 PM PST by Lee Heggy ("In Missouri we don't call them "Guerrillas")
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To: mhking
15 members, eh?

Since they're libs, no doubt it'll get 'em a mention on Whirled News Tonight with Uncle Peetah.
35 posted on 02/23/2005 1:00:22 PM PST by reagan_fanatic ("Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence" - R. Kirk)
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I don't even have to bring up the fact that national defense is one of the few charges of the federal government that is stated in the Constitution.

I like the FTT Supreme Board makeup: a loon who lives in the woods of NJ, his knocked-up teenage sister and her boyfriend. Sweet. I wonder if they have a treehouse.


36 posted on 02/23/2005 1:00:47 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: mhking

This may be a phony site designed especially to get email addresses for future spaming. I would ignore it completely, and certainly wouldn't email them.


37 posted on 02/23/2005 1:00:55 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: Howlin
15 whole members, huh?

Oh, and take a look at this page from this moron's site: Gimp Marine.

It got my blood boiling even hotter...

38 posted on 02/23/2005 1:01:27 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: mhking
Other members have their bios available as well.

,,, the group can be chartered for protest marches for G7 events, save the whales campaigns, civil unions rights... whatever your cause, rent-a-mob R us.

39 posted on 02/23/2005 1:01:34 PM PST by shaggy eel
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I figure one well placed grenade would just about take care of this matter.


40 posted on 02/23/2005 1:01:59 PM PST by USMA '71
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To: mhking

 

Geez, I'd love to send the url to the guys behind the man in the suit...


41 posted on 02/23/2005 1:02:16 PM PST by Fintan (1950)
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To: bootless
I don't even have to bring up the fact that national defense is one of the few charges of the federal government that is stated in the Constitution.

Interesting how many people don't seem to know that...especially creeps like this.

42 posted on 02/23/2005 1:02:25 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: mhking
Despite common opinion, we are not a hate group, that we do not condone acts of violence, or any illegal acts towards military facilities or personnel.

It's funny how all "hate groups" have this kind of statement as a part of their public release information. They make these statements while at the same time, would conveniently turn their collective backs secretly cheering on violent behavior toward the subjects of their hate.

43 posted on 02/23/2005 1:02:58 PM PST by SaveTheChief (There are 10 types of people -- those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: PatriotCJC

I left a nice supportive sarcastic message.


44 posted on 02/23/2005 1:05:17 PM PST by LanPB01
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To: mhking

Kids having fun at others expense? My guess.

Red6


45 posted on 02/23/2005 1:05:32 PM PST by Red6
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To: mhking

Is this the creep?

http://tinyurl.com/45z8w


46 posted on 02/23/2005 1:06:58 PM PST by kcvl
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To: mhking
Our position is that as it stands currently, the compensation, benefit, and retirement packages that our active duty and retired military personnel get is outrageous, and undeserved.

Scott, since you believe this to be true, may we count on you to go man the DEW line in Alaska without pay?

After all, the DEW line is not offensive in nature - it has no weapons. It is simply a warning system for ICBMS that might be launched over the north pole. Surely you would consider this to be a valid activity, would you not? And you'd be willing to do it for free?

Let alone actually going into combat to defend our way of life or your silly internet thingy.

Shalom.

47 posted on 02/23/2005 1:08:03 PM PST by ArGee (It's not hateful, it's just true. People are heterosexual. It's our nature.)
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To: mhking

OMG........just omg.


48 posted on 02/23/2005 1:08:19 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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Is this the creep?

I'm pretty sure...

49 posted on 02/23/2005 1:08:45 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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Oh, and take a look at this page from this moron's site: Gimp Marine.

It got my blood boiling even hotter...

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

50 posted on 02/23/2005 1:09:54 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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