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Samurai Sword Used In Long Island Murder
1010 WINS - NEW YORK ^ | Feb 28, 2005 6:46 am US/Eastern | 1010wins

Posted on 02/28/2005 6:58:07 AM PST by Calpernia

A retired city police officer was found dead in his Long Island home on Sunday, apparently slashed to death by a samurai sword, authorities said.

The former policeman, Scott Nager, 51, was found dead by his wife, Laura at about 1 p.m., said Officer Al Prim, a spokesman for the Suffolk County police.

Nager served on the city police force for 15 years, working as a patrolman in the 34th precinct, which includes Washington Heights and Inwood. He retired in July, 1996 because of a service-related injury, The New York Times reported.

Suffolk county police said Laura Nager's son, Zachary Gibian, 18, was arrested in connection with the death. He was charged with second degree murder and set to be arraigned on Monday in First District Court in Central Islip.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 34thprecinct; bang; centralislip; leo; longisland; murdered; patricide; policeofficer; samuraisword; scottnager; washingtonheights; zacherygibian
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

I think it is McLeod, rather than Mac Cloud! But I am not Scots.


41 posted on 02/28/2005 11:44:33 AM PST by 5050 no line
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To: Gilbo_3

And remember: the tool used can be made from a flat piece of metal and a rock. This notion of legislating control of inanimate objects is pointless so long as there are inanimate objects and perps willing to misuse them.


42 posted on 02/28/2005 11:51:29 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Sender
You know, to do the hedges...I don't have much "yard work", but I prefer a heavy "Bokken".
43 posted on 02/28/2005 11:51:38 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Calpernia

44 posted on 02/28/2005 12:01:46 PM PST by 4mycountry (This is my tag. Deal with it.)
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To: 4mycountry

THAT is a keeper!

Bump!


45 posted on 02/28/2005 12:02:40 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: 5050 no line

That would be MacLeod.


46 posted on 02/28/2005 12:03:30 PM PST by pro libertate
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To: Calpernia
This is a brutally savage way to go. I pray they catch the killer quickly, someone with the mindset to use this particular weapon is extremely dangerous. Understanding the potential of this weapon I'm a little shaken reading this, even without the major details.
47 posted on 02/28/2005 12:06:33 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

A lot of the ones the GI's brought back had their value greatly destroyed from being sharpened on grinding wheels.


48 posted on 02/28/2005 12:08:23 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Calpernia
Suffolk county police said Laura Nager's son, Zachary Gibian, 18, was arrested in connection with the death. He was charged with second degree murder and set to be arraigned on Monday in First District Court in Central Islip.

Yeah, someday I'll get to the end of the article without hitting "post".

They should threaten this fellow with the same weapon and let him stew on it a few days.

49 posted on 02/28/2005 12:09:10 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Calpernia

Long Island again.


50 posted on 02/28/2005 12:11:57 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

History channel did a show on swords. They claimed that almost all the Samurai swords were sent to the U.S. after the War because the Japanese officers wouldn't retain them after they had been disgraced by defeat, so they became War trophies for lucky U.S. veterans.


51 posted on 02/28/2005 12:14:16 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: Age of Reason

NY/NJ. Behind the Iron Curtain.


52 posted on 02/28/2005 12:35:28 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Caipirabob

I've had the itchy post finger many times. I assumed you would figure it out without a 'read the article' post to you :)


53 posted on 02/28/2005 12:37:27 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

McCleod.

Just FYI.


54 posted on 02/28/2005 12:51:50 PM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
A bunch of these swords did come back with GIs but the first round of collections were stored at YED (Yokohama Engineering Depot) at Sagamihara and some at Camp Zama.
My dad knew of a guy who got the job of disposing of the swords in the sea. He picked off the gold dragons and other decorations before tossing them into the drink.
55 posted on 02/28/2005 12:57:59 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ctdonath2

> There are modern swords made the old way. Really good ones go for more than $10,000. Nothing under $1000 is worth looking at.

Hmm. My .45 cost me about $450.


56 posted on 02/28/2005 1:36:30 PM PST by orionblamblam
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To: orionblamblam

I was talking about fine katanas (note the thread subject).


57 posted on 02/28/2005 1:51:44 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: skinkinthegrass

A bokken is the only Japanese sword I have now. I drive my wife crazy playing with it :)


58 posted on 02/28/2005 2:55:06 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Calpernia

Not one post lamenting the murder of a retired cop at the hands (so it seems) of his own son. Plenty of jokes, but not one word of compassion.


59 posted on 02/28/2005 3:13:57 PM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: ctdonath2

The hardening process does not cause the curve, that is forged in as the edge is drawn down, the edge hardening
process does cause the different temper lines, spots and
other distinctive signs of the hardening process, the use
of refractive clay coatings, slows the hardening process
away from the edge and allows the back to be springy and
tough.

Many men were killed by a bokken.
Musashi fought several duels bokken against Katana,
once carving a bokken from an oar on the way to a
fight on an island.

It is very hard to find good swords cheaply now days, but
one does run across them, I have a showa blade I took in trade for some blacksmith work, I made a wrought Sai for a martial arts instructor.
It is lacking a handle and I 'm looking for a shurasaya
or white wood scabbard for it.
The handle is inscribed with the Showa stamp and an inscription, also shows the file strokes which help to
identify a real blade.

The great blades were sometimes made up of up to FIVE different types of steel, with the hardest being the blade
edge, the softest the center, slabs of medium on the sides
and a bit harder on the back.

I experimented with forged blades in my youth, and developed
a process similar to the japanese, for making tantos and
other small blades with temper lines and hardened edges.


60 posted on 02/28/2005 3:39:29 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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