Skip to comments.McCain Touts Jeb for 2008
Posted on 02/28/2005 5:12:21 PM PST by wagglebee
The first name that popped out of U.S. Sen. John McCain's mouth Sunday as the Republican choice for president in 2008 was Jeb Bush, but the governor's spokesman repeated his position that he has no plans to run.
"If you're looking at dynasties, and by the way I'm a great admirer of Governor Bush, he's done a great job in Florida," the Arizona senator said on "Fox News Sunday." But he added, "This might be a wide-open situation."
In response to McCain's remarks, Bush spokesman Jacob DiPietre said: "The governor is focused on his job right now. He's got an ambitious agenda for his remaining time in office and has said repeatedly that he has no intentions of running" for president in 2008.
Nice fact twist. Anti-affirmative action was his claim to fame and they both rejoiced in the loud opposition.
As for "charge/assault", either I missed that episode or 2001 (when OneFlorida was in its hayday and Kalifornica businessman Connerly was making noise) had an overshadowing news happenstance.
So tell me again why you say JEB is FOR affirmative action??? Try not to phrase your answer as a question.
Well, considering the WOT is the most important item in the news day in and day out, don't you think that you are being just a little hard on Bush, then? I mean, he had to go from working on an agenda that he talked about and planned on for 18 months during the campaign and election of 2000, then---
In the space of what 20 or so minutes, his whole focus of his agenda had to shift 108 degrees---
You mentioned that you appreciated the better "values" so to speak of his White House vs. the Clintons---but if you think about it, it wasn't just the sex thing, but Clinton wasn't paying attention to the world around us and LET 9/11 get to the operational point it did on 9/11/01!!
And, after today in Lebanon and the weekend with Mubarek talking about election in Egypt, you CANNOT say that Bush's Doctrine hasn't made a postive change begin in the Middle East!
September 4, 2001: Two years after abolishing affirmative action programs for minority-owned companies, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said on Tuesday they are now getting an unprecedented share of state spending. Flanked by charts and minority business owners, Bush said data from his budget office showed that jettisoning set aside programs and quotas have not, as critics had predicted, undermined minority business competing for the nearly $15 billion in goods and services purchased every year by the state. See article Minorities' Share of Florida Business Said Growing.
OOPSY---now you have gone and done it---
You have typed the "A" word, or the "II" (illegal immigrant)words on a Free Republic site---
Stand back everybody---it gonna blow!
"I want to see Dan Quayle run. He is a committed conservative and a good man. The MSM image is old and can easily be overcome by hitting the ground running with his thorough, committed agenda."
So happy to see another Quayle fan. My husband looks like him!
I happen to like Jeb Bush a lot but when I think about it, nothing where I lived for nearly 20 years improved under him. Well, I think he did away with auto exhaust emissions testing, which was a joke. But the core of the state is still rotten.
When Jeb entered office, the SUS was still using race as factor in admissions. Connerly rode in and tried to force Jeb to go by his own plan, which didn't have widespread support at the time. Jeb set up his One Florida or "Talented 20" plan, which eliminated race based initiatives. It was a huge success against affirmative action, and really shouldn't be viewed as anything else.
Also, Jeb and the House Republicans have refused to raise taxes, even when revenues were severely hurt after 9/11. They did what all conservatives should do when they take in less money; they tightened the budget and spent less. Jeb also supports tort reform and a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages, and he has refused to give into the Senate RINOs and the trial bar. He is revamping the Medicaid program to cut costs. He helped pass a special bill just for Terri Schiavo. How is he a RINO?
McCain was the media's pick.
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I live in Florida. Your point concerning Jeb Bush's beliefs about quotas/affirmative action is not true.
You weren't here in Florida for the sit-ins and marches on Tallahassee when Jeb put an end to quotas in state hiring and university admissions. And your evidence is Ward Connerly? Well, I believe Mr. Connerly is a good man, but Jeb is a bit more shrewd than he is.
You can dislike George Bush and/or Jeb Bush. But don't run around spreading lies and half truths. It only makes you look like a media clone.
Keep your tagline though. It helps people put your views in perspective.
She is a career Russian Studies academic and National Security expert. How on earth do you know that she is pro-abortion? Links?
I find it suspicious that McCain comes out for a Bush. It's been my thinking he's not too fond of the family.
Anyway, I like Jeb. I like G.W. better. If Jeb wanted to run I'd give consideration since I do NOT support this fanciful notion that we have a "dynasty" when these people are freely elected. That said, he isn't running. I wish people would take him at his word.
I suspect mcCain does take him at his word and wanted to buy points by suggesting a Republican the base likes to balance out his statement about Hillary. meaningless pandering since everyone knows Jeb isn't running, and therefore Jeb is of no threat to McCain's intentions to run.
That's fine, but it's a HUGE improvement from prior to when Jeb took office, especially in university admissions.
As far as the driver's licenses, I agree with you. I think it's a dumb move. However, I think you're ignoring everything else he's done (especially his fiscal policies), and labeling him a RINO based on essentially one position would pretty much mean that everyone is a RINO in your book. Are there any other positions that would classify him as a RINO, or is that it?
Thank you for your first hand observations and setting the record straight.
you're not truthful.
Never say never. Remember Nixon? Defeated in 1960 for the Presidency. Defeated in 1962 for governor of California. Everyone thought he was washed up. Done. Finished. Elected President in 1968 and by a landslide in 1972.
As I said, I honestly think it's a matter of Quayle hitting the ground running with an agenda from the get-go. What happened in 1992 was a long time ago. Much longer than Nixon's 8 year hiatus. In 1992 we didn't have bloggers, FR, or FNC. It can be done.
I don't think the US Senate is a step up from Governor. It might be a step up coming from a small state but not FL. Just my opinion YMMV
Just because I don't want to see another Bush in the White House does not mean that I dislike them. It's o.k. in my book to disagree with someone's views without disliking them.
This is probably different for you, however.
I'm not old enough to know but I have to think the MSM beat the heck out of Reagan as CA Gov and he came back. The MSM beat up Nixon as Ike's VP. Any older Freepers able to give some perspective and compare the attacks on Nixon as VP and Reagan as Gov to Quayle?
All those inclined should contact Mr. Quayle with their support. He has mailing addresses at www.vicepresidentdanquayle.com
Dan Quayle is a true-blue committed conservative. He more than has what it takes to carry on the torch of America. And he would be a worthy successor to W. Vision, integrity, experience, faith, values: Dan is our man!
I do have a hard time liking people who I believe express dishonesty. I'm a father and I often see fraudulant people as bad for America and my children's future. Jesus said love your enemy but I am not Jesus.
If you were mearly saying something like..."I don't think Jeb is the best choice," or even "I disagree," as you clame in this post I would not have responded. But you posted Stop Jeb Now!!!!! NO MORE BUSH!!!!!! This is a dire warning with many exclaimation points. I don't think you'ra stupid...you understand the words you chose and the way you expressed it is inflamitory and looks a lot like the crap one reads at DU. It is the way one would write "THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
All I said was that I was convinced you don't like the Bush's. I don't even need to check other threads to be convinced...it is clear from your posts at #107 and #109 and #114. Why can't you admit it?
It was 1992. Bush and Quayle were running as incumbents and were unlucky enough to have a medium-sized "soft patch" recession during election year. And the "duh" move of reneging on "no new taxes" didn't help either. With that, a moderately conservative 3rd party, a ruthless Clinton campaign, and the somewhat incoherency of the Bush message (we don't even need to mention Old Media's "help"), Clinton squeaked into the Office with an unrespectable 43%. Quayle was portrayed as negatively as being unintelligent.
As for 2000, his campaign never took off. I couldn't say what happened.
But passed time has a way to heal old wounds and 13 years is plenty to put the past where it belongs. We don't need to argue about whether he's intelligent. What's clear is that the MSM stuck that to him. But today they no longer have the carte blanche they had in 1992. We have bloggers, FR, FNC and the likes. I think he has a good chance at getting a fair shake if he hits the ground running with his agenda. The Weekly Stand with Kristol will help, too.
I don't even need to mention that he's emminently qualified for the Office. At least, that's how I feel. America can never have enough pro-family, pro-values, pro-defense committed conservatives like Dan. The man has depth and vision.
Maybe my post was unclear. I know plenty about how Quayle was mistreated by the MSM. I was looking for someone who could give some perspective on Nixon's treatment at the hands of the press during the 50's as well as Reagan's during the 60's.
Look I am not old enough either. I was just trying to share my enthusiasm and my ideas. For some that is enough.
We agree. There is no need to defend your opinion. I was just trying to be clear. I'm searching for validation that the media tried and failed to kill the future of 2 other great men Nixon and Reagan.
Here is something I hope you can appreciate, or curse me for pointing out. Want to cry for an hour? Read this A Dead Soldier's Words on Iraq: "The Price Is Worth It" (RIP Sgt. 1st Class David J. Salie)
This man is several years younger than I and my brain hurts from thinking about his wife and children. I can't stop crying. I can't stop thinking about him. I would welcome a flame war to distract me.
"If you're looking at dynasties, and by the way I'm a great admirer of Governor Bush..."
Whatever, if that's not a jab, I don't know what one is.
Ugh. Then that means I don't want Jeb. Not that I did in the first place.
Just saw that. I am thinking that I would rather it not be another Bush. I love the two we already elected as president, but I don't think I would be comfortable with a third Bush as pres. I don't know why. Just doesn't sound right. How about Bill Frist or Michael Steele????? or Condi????
I LOVE your tag line!
Don't know about the term limits but I THINK Jeb has to move on after this term. Not sure though. Maybe Prez down the line but as much as I would want him in '08...it wouldn't happen and probably shouldn't. If he can beat Bill nelson then let it happen. Go Jeb! We need him to stay in politics. Can't let these honest guys slip away.
It's fine. Thanks for the link. It's terrible to lose our soldiers.
My heart is broken...