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Police Zap Dad Accused Of Stealing Salad At Chuck E. Cheese
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Posted on 03/02/2005 7:09:34 AM PST by esryle
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To: Jonx6
Agreed. That guy could have just shown the receipt to the worker or he could have gone outside to discuss the situation with the officers or just shown them a receipt. I often throw them away immiedately after getting them.
I don't have a receipt for the shirt I am wearing either. I supposed someone could claim I stole it and my lack of recipt would be proof of theft.
In theory.
I think the legal standard is "probable cause" or "reasonable cause". Did someone see him walk in, bypass the cash register, and pick up a plate and start eating?
This is along the lines of that debate about receipt checkers at electronic stores. Legally you don't have to stop unless someone witnessed you concel something and had a continuous line of sight on your as you walked out the door.
The guy already got an attorney. If the lack of recipt was the only "probable cause", he'll probably get some money from both parties.
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posted on
03/02/2005 8:01:16 AM PST
by
Stu Cohen
(Press '1' for English)
To: r9etb
Hardly. I have never had my hand or my child's hand stamped while at Chuck E. Cheese. But thank you for playing R.
To: GOPCajunLady
Gotta get that scum off the street! No telling what crime he will commit next! < /sarcasm > :D
Next thing you know, he'll take all of the hot fudge at the Old Country Buffet sundae bar.
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posted on
03/02/2005 8:03:23 AM PST
by
July 4th
(A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
To: TheSpottedOwl
Tasers can be fired or just pressed against the individual.
(There is no proof that this guy stole the freakin' salad.)
I believe i would read the incident report before i would jump to conclusions.
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posted on
03/02/2005 8:03:55 AM PST
by
Graycliff
("Life is just one darn thing after another; LOVE is just two darn things after each other.")
To: Cultural Jihad
Conservatives are big on personal responsibility, and we leave the sniveling whining and excuse-mongering to liberals
Conservatives are also big on an unwillingess to reflexively kowtow to agents of the state, and should leave the idolazation of government and its agents to liberals.
Whoever called the cops for this should be fired. Whatever cop decided to escalate salad-bar pilfering into a major taser event in a crowded restaurant should be sat down in a corner and allowed to reflect on his lack of judgment.
Can you image Andy Griffith doing this? Barney, yes, but Andy? No way.
To: CIB-173RDABN
What would you suggest the police do if a person refuses to cooperate? Now, if I understand you correctly, the police are just to walk away...... Tasering the guy inches away from an infant was both totally unnecessary and irresponsible in the extreme. Of course the cops shouldn't have "just walked away," nor did I even remotely suggest they should've. But they could've got him to the ground and handcuffed him. .....IF they were competent cops.
To: SalukiLawyer
Andy probably would have paid for the family's meal and gone off to more important things.
To: esryle
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posted on
03/02/2005 8:05:13 AM PST
by
TheForceOfOne
(Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
To: Mrs.Nooseman; Cultural Jihad
"According to witnesses (Gale) refused to cooperate with police and a struggle ensued," said Larry Martinez, a police spokesman. He said that Gale became argumentative and shoved one of the officers, a fact disputed by another patron. "One of the officers kept poking the gentleman in the chest," Felicia Mayo told the Rocky Mountain News.
She was there with her 7-year-old son. She told the newspaper that Gale told the officer "You don't have to do that." She said Gale never put his hands on the officer who was confronting him
The argument escalated until Gale was shoved into the lap of Mayo's sister, who was sitting two booths away, holding a 10-month-old baby. That's when police pulled out a Taser stun gun to subdue him...
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posted on
03/02/2005 8:05:40 AM PST
by
pageonetoo
(You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
To: new cruelty
She's only quoted that he never put his hands on the cops. She's not quoted as to whether he was argumentative or that he refused the cops request to step outside. Other witnesses (plural) claim Gale shoved one of the cops. She wasn't the only witness, and with most incidents, there will be several versions of what happened. Somewhere in the middle is the truth.
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posted on
03/02/2005 8:06:03 AM PST
by
mass55th
(Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
To: pageonetoo
Thanks for posting this excerpt of the article.
To: Cultural Jihad
Larceny is larceny. Supposedly someone who trespasses onto your property but only steals some landscaping and not the safe, well that's all okay, eh? You're right...but there's a right way and a wrong way to police a Chuck E. Cheese salad bar.
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posted on
03/02/2005 8:07:18 AM PST
by
Oberon
(What does it take to make government shrink?)
To: Osage Orange
He was asked to step outside, he chose not to and became combative. At least thats what the original post said.
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posted on
03/02/2005 8:07:37 AM PST
by
Graycliff
("Life is just one darn thing after another; LOVE is just two darn things after each other.")
To: chuckwalla
Should arrest the manager for MWS...."Managing While Stupid"
114
posted on
03/02/2005 8:07:40 AM PST
by
international american
(Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
To: jmhfnyc
You do pay in advance in Austin and San Antonio and you do get a receipt.
115
posted on
03/02/2005 8:07:55 AM PST
by
Jonx6
To: Stu Cohen
This is along the lines of that debate about receipt checkers at electronic stores. Legally you don't have to stop unless someone witnessed you concel something and had a continuous line of sight on your as you walked out the door.
The WalMart door-bot accused me of retail theft one too many times after I had just paid for my pitiful collection of gimcrack goods, and I told them, in so many words, I was not inclined to waste time with them, and they were welcome to pin me to the floor and call the police, but I was walking out the door.
I can see myself being tazed at a salad bar on a bad day.
To: Cultural Jihad
The man will not be tried in the press, but in a court of law. So if the court case shows the police to be wrong, you will be back here defending the fellow and excoriating the police? Calling for the cop to be prosecuted? LOL
I love fantasies.
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posted on
03/02/2005 8:08:16 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
To: mass55th
Yeah, by the press.Please enlighten me as to the real facts. Where did you get them?
118
posted on
03/02/2005 8:09:34 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
To: ActionNewsBill
Yeah, a stolen 50 cent head of lettuce is comparable to bankrupting a major city hospital ....: )
119
posted on
03/02/2005 8:10:04 AM PST
by
international american
(Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
To: Graycliff
You don't know if he didn't pay for it.
I've been setupon by power hungry petty managers before. They can be very disrespectful and try their best to humiliate you in front of others. Because they think they have the power.
And all for about $2.50.
This is not a serious crime.
The guy probably spent a lot on pizza and drinks for his family and may not have been his only time at the place so in proper context even if he did forget to pay for salad one time so what. Give the customer the benefit of the doubt.
The manager had no proof the guy didn't pay. Not saving a reciept for salad is not a crime.
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