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Chechen Rebel Leader Killed
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Posted on 03/08/2005 7:29:45 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

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To: Grampa Dave

Perle and Woolsey were members of the Defense Policy Board in this administration, so their ties represented a lot more than a "quasi-relationship."


101 posted on 03/08/2005 12:34:40 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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To: hchutch

Only half avenged. One more big creep to go.


102 posted on 03/08/2005 12:59:38 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: Straight Vermonter
"The Chechens are not happy with the Arab fighters. They don't love aliens. But for those seeking retaliation after suffering abuse by Russian troops, the easiest choice is to join the Islamists, because that is where they get weapons, money, and protection."

The ends justify the means to them. Well, now I hope it means their "end". I'm with Putin on this one.

103 posted on 03/08/2005 1:05:12 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: MarMema

Every time one of these muslirat terrorists dies, the world is a better place.

Hunt them down and kill them... every single one... and kill all their friends... and burn their houses down!


104 posted on 03/08/2005 1:07:04 PM PST by broadsword (You don't deal with a cancer by only dealing with the cells that are painful. Cut them ALL out!)
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To: Semper Paratus

105 posted on 03/08/2005 1:13:31 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: All

The Chechens have their problems and so do the Russians, but what does it say when the terrorisrs are able to bribe their way in and out.


106 posted on 03/08/2005 1:16:06 PM PST by Esteemed Scholar Jack Bauer
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To: AdmSmith

While Maskhadov was certainly more moderate than the "leaders" who have emerged in the second Chechen war, once he through his lot in with the Islamists he could not expect to be treated differently.

Could you really imagine Putin coming to a negotiated settlement with him after the Moscow bombings? After the theater massacre? After Beslan?


107 posted on 03/08/2005 1:28:49 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: Alberta's Child
The answer to BOTH of your questions is simple: this guy (Maskhadov) is the THIRD in a row legitimately elected President of Chechen Republic ASSASINATED by Russian govermnent.

Most of us would tolerate assasination of one foreign leader who supports/harbors terrorists; some of us would tolerate two (from the same country). But THREE is a way too much, and is clear indicaton that something is wrong here.
108 posted on 03/08/2005 1:32:34 PM PST by RussianNJ
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To: SoFloFreeper

He's dead, Jim!


109 posted on 03/08/2005 1:38:35 PM PST by TexasRepublic (BALLISTIC CATHARSIS: perforating uncooperative objects with chunks of lead)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Could you really imagine Putin coming to a negotiated settlement with him after the Moscow bombings? After the theater massacre? After Beslan?

He should have done that. Wait and read the comments from the White House or State later today...
110 posted on 03/08/2005 2:00:20 PM PST by AdmSmith
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To: SoFloFreeper; Poohbah; Destro; A. Pole; MarMema; GarySpFc; Lion in Winter
Here's what some of our EU trolls have been posting in reference to this:

Polish ruling left leans towards June polls

To: jb6

Personally I don't think you are Christian at all. Or American. But for other FReepers I would like to mention that Maschadov begged Pope to help him stop the war in his motherland and he wanted to imprison Basajev for taking part in Beslan. You should be grateful that Russia is strong enough to convice the world's leaders such freedom-fighters should be Interpol sought criminals. Well done tovarish!

And Mashkidov was responsible.

Yeah he was responsible for defending his motherland's independence against russian oppression. He dared to oppose and successfully fight against neo-USSR-Russia something. He didn't want to be your slave - that is he's guilt. If there are heroe's on the face of the Earth he was one of them. Rest in peace...

88 posted on 03/08/2005 1:27:48 PM PST by twinself [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

 

Chechen leader Maskhadov 'killed'

To: twinself

If this is truth then the Russians killed democratically elected president of Chechnya who always condemning terrorism and who many times asked Putin to seat to negotiations. In the same time true terrorists like Basajev planning next Beslan. Truth is that every Chechen who is not liked by Putin is terrorist and many ethnic Russians who are not liked by Putins are “terrorists supporters and sponsors”. That is disgusting and foolish.

6 posted on 03/08/2005 12:35:49 PM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

111 posted on 03/08/2005 2:24:19 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Alberta's Child
How the hell did all these "neo-conservatives" like William Kristol, Richard Perle, Norman Podhoretz, Caspar Weinberger, Michael Ledeen, Robert McFarlane, Alexander Haig, Elliott Abrams, James Woolsey, and Robert Kagan end up in the same leftist lobbying group as Geraldine Ferraro and Richard Gere?

I suspect Brzezinksi, Albright, and Soros got them involved. Brzezinksi has it out for Russia, and will do anything to split the country into dust. He was the architect of the war in Afghanistan and the recent Ukrainian election, both designed to split up Russia. See: http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/2001/070125.shtml
112 posted on 03/08/2005 2:48:09 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Straight Vermonter
"The Chechens are not happy with the Arab fighters. They don't love aliens. But for those seeking retaliation after suffering abuse by Russian troops, the easiest choice is to join the Islamists, because that is where they get weapons, money, and protection."

Nonsense! Thoughout the world where you find al-Qaeda fighting as terrorists you will find a large group of Chenchens. To say they are not part of al-Qaeda is a lie.
113 posted on 03/08/2005 2:57:14 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
Being in the picture with Basayev at a military planning event, which later turned out to be Beslan, is more than enough for me.

Good riddance. The world is a better place without him.

Go, Putin. Get them in the outhouse.

114 posted on 03/08/2005 3:19:35 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: hchutch
"Beslan has been avenged."
Just a link in the chain of the butchers ... It will, when the mastermind will be justiced
115 posted on 03/08/2005 3:38:43 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: jb6
Post this article and link as a reply to them:

When the Candidate was a Terrorist

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1226486/posts

By turns, Shamil Basayev has been an Islamist terrorist in the murderous mold of Osama bin Laden, a top candidate for the presidency of Chechnya and the Chechen prime minister. Now he is back in his Osama bin Laden mode.

His main opponent was Aslan Maskhadov, the one-time Soviet colonel who had commanded Chechen forces in the war. Both candidates stood for Chechen independence, but Maskhadov was deemed the "moderate".

Basayev ran on his war record. "Candidate Basayev," reported the Philadelphia Inquirer, "has compiled what amounts to a greatest-hits video of his audacious war exploits and turned it into a campaign advertisement. At any hour of the day or night, people in this ruined land can tune to a pro-Basayev television station and watch graphic reruns of the most savage moments in Chechnya's 21-month-long war with Moscow, all starring the controversial rebel. There's Basayev, the daring commander, laying siege to the Russian town of Budennovsk, where civilian hostages were doused with gasoline."

One Basayev supporter told Moscow Times correspondent Gall: "I voted for Basayev because I want to show Russia that they may see him as a terrorist, but we do not."

To the relief of the Russians, Maskhadov beat Basayev, 59.3% to 23.5%. The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), which sent 72 observers to monitor the elections, raved about its fairness. "It's astonishing that out of death and destruction comes an election which can be termed free and can be termed fair," said then-OSCE Chairman Niels Helveg Peterson of Denmark.

Then Maskhadov named Basayev deputy prime minister. A year later, he made Basayev prime minister and asked him to form a government.

116 posted on 03/08/2005 3:39:13 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Alberta's Child
Which makes it even more disgraceful that these Chechen separatists had a lot of support from key advisors to the Bush Administration.

No. Please be more careful with assertions. For example, the Bush Administration opposed asylum for Maskhadov's spokesman:

[from Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty]
Caucasus/U.S.: Washington Backs Kremlin On Chechen Exile In America By Andrew Tully In May, a judge in the United States granted political asylum to Ilyas Akhmadov, who served as the foreign minister of the separatist government of Chechnya until the Russian invasion of 1999. But the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS), created after the 11 September attacks, has appealed that decision. Despite the fact that Akhmadov has been working for a negotiated settlement to the Chechen conflict, the DHS claims Akhmadov is a terrorist.

Washington, 2 July 2004 -- Akhmadov has many supporters in the United States, including current members of Congress and former secretaries of state. But to the administration of President George W. Bush, the former opposition official is a terrorist and should be forced to leave the United States.
117 posted on 03/08/2005 3:40:55 PM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: AdmSmith

Finally someone repeating the MSM story


118 posted on 03/08/2005 3:41:38 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: GarySpFc
I suspect Brzezinksi, Albright, and Soros got them involved. Brzezinksi has it out for Russia, and will do anything to split the country into dust. He was the architect of the war in Afghanistan and the recent Ukrainian election, both designed to split up Russia. See: http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/2001/070125.shtml
They'll have to find a new democrat for the orange revolution in Chechnya
119 posted on 03/08/2005 3:46:51 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Destro
A year later, he made Basayev prime minister and asked him to form a government.

Yet people still defend him. A "moderate" who promotes a terrorist in NOT a moderate.
120 posted on 03/08/2005 3:54:49 PM PST by self_evident
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