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What Hillary Could Do. It won’t be a hard sell.
NRO ^ | March 15, 2005, 7:46 a.m. | By Richard Vigilante

Posted on 03/15/2005 7:21:29 AM PST by .cnI redruM

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To: theFIRMbss
Oh, and yeah, the bikini is much more fashionable then the Pants Suit of Unpardonable Matronhood!
21 posted on 03/15/2005 8:57:23 AM PST by .cnI redruM ("I think that I have a fairly good understanding of what constitutes insider information," -Soros)
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22 posted on 03/15/2005 8:59:19 AM PST by pookie18 (Clinton Happens!)
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To: .cnI redruM
Be afraid alert...
be very afraid alert.
23 posted on 03/15/2005 9:15:06 AM PST by b9 (WWHH whatwouldhillaryhate?)
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To: slowhand520
I truly believe we are all guilty of overrating Hillary. Am I wrong here?

Dead wrong. The Dem nomination is Hillary's if she wants it and she does. She has to be the odds on favorite to win the Presidency.

Unfortunately, it is Hillary's race to lose. She will have plenty of money, the organization, name recognition, MSM support, and won't be running against an incumbent. The next few years will see her moving more to the middle on the political spectrum. She already has the Left locked up. Expect a big minority turnout in key states.

Hillary will carry all of the states that Kerry and Gore did and she has a shot at Ohio, Florida, Iowa (Gore won that in 2000), New Mexico (Gore carried it), Nevada, New Hampshire (Kerry won it in 2004)and Arizona.

24 posted on 03/15/2005 9:21:48 AM PST by kabar
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To: pookie18

25 posted on 03/15/2005 9:36:06 AM PST by John Lenin (Abortion has created lots of atheists because no one wants to go to hell)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Clinton slipped in by running when everyone else was too scared to run.

Clinton slipped in because GHW Bush violated his "Read My Lips" pledge and that Little Weasel Ross Perot. The 2nd time was a decision by the Pubbies to punt, and let Bob Dole have his last hurrah.

26 posted on 03/15/2005 9:41:14 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: kabar

Alot can happen in three years. 6 months before the election Dean was a lock for the Dem. nomination and Kerry was polling behind Al Sharpton. I would disagree with you that she is the odds on favorite to be president. She polls behind Giulliani and McCain. I think we are all a victim of the media hype.


27 posted on 03/15/2005 9:42:36 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: slowhand520
I agree a lot can change prior to 2008. I wouldn't use the 2004 Dem primaries as an example. Even then, Hillary outpolled the other candidates if she had elected to run. She is the only real Dem superstar.

Until we know the GOP candidate, it will be difficult to gauge how she will stack up against them. McCain and Giuliani have their own baggage and will have a harder time in the GOP primaries than Hillary will in the Dem primaries.

The fact that the most liberal senator from the most liberal state in America could come as close as he did in unseating a sitting, wartime President should give all of us Republicans pause for thought. Hillary will do better than Kerry. It will again boil down to a few key states.

28 posted on 03/15/2005 9:52:07 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

We can't underestimate this vile woman. Never has such an evil creature been in this position.


29 posted on 03/15/2005 10:05:41 AM PST by unkus
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To: TwoWolves

That's why the party needs to sandbag Hillary in the 2006 elections. With enough pressure Hillary will crack at some point and let something out into the public, she'll regret.


30 posted on 03/15/2005 10:08:30 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: kabar
See I don't see it as you do. You are looking at it as the glass half empty. I look at it as the glass half full. Bush got more votes than any other president. Bush won by 4 million votes. Hardly close. If you are referring to the 135,000 vote margin that Bush narrowly won by you need to look at the states he narrowly lost. He was a few thousand votes short in a couple of states combined to an electoral landslide. WI, MN, PA and MI were all very close. They shouldn't have been.
I do agree we shouldn't underestimate any opponents. But I do believe we are overestimating Hillary's electability.
31 posted on 03/15/2005 10:11:33 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: slowhand520

Please see Post 29


32 posted on 03/15/2005 10:20:37 AM PST by unkus
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To: slowhand520
See I don't see it as you do. You are looking at it as the glass half empty. I look at it as the glass half full. Bush got more votes than any other president.

It is a matter of demographics. Kerry received the second most number of votes in history, 5 million more than even Reagan in 1984.

Bush won by 4 million votes. Hardly close.

Bush won by 3 million votes (62,041,268 to 59,028,548). Presidential elections are not won by the popular vote, but the electoral vote. Ask Al Gore. It was a very close election electorally. Even though Clinton never got more than 50% of the popular vote, he won by bigger margins than GWB did in the electoral college.

I do agree we shouldn't underestimate any opponents. But I do believe we are overestimating Hillary's electability.

The biggest mistake is to underestimate her. To reiterate, Kerry was able to make it a very close race despite his liberal record, lack of charisma, his bogus military record, and his traitorous activities as an antiwar activist.

Hillary will win all of the states that Kerry and Gore did, which makes her very electable. She will also have the Clinton election machine and experience at her disposal along with lots and lots of money. The MSM will go into overdrive supporting her and destroying her GOP opponent.

33 posted on 03/15/2005 10:38:05 AM PST by kabar
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To: unkus

I refuse to believe sane Americans would vote he into office. Are you willing to bet she doesn't win?


34 posted on 03/15/2005 10:42:20 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: kabar

OK. I'll bet you she doesn't win


35 posted on 03/15/2005 10:46:26 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: slowhand520

Sane and educated Americans won't vote for her. I think the dumbing down of America is either so complete or nearly complete that the majority would vote for her. Too many factors on her side. MSM, Dim special interests, etc., etc., etc.


36 posted on 03/15/2005 11:50:07 AM PST by unkus
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To: slowhand520
"I truly believe we are all guilty of overrating Hillary"

I agree slowhand. When you think of the get out the vote effort and how successful it was to keep Kerry out of the White House and the American people safe, why would some think effort wouldn't pale in comparison to keeping the Beast out of the Whitehouse.

There are a lot of people who fear that she will fool all kinds of conservatives into voting for her, but I think conservatives won't be that foolish, or easy to fool.

37 posted on 03/15/2005 12:17:26 PM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: slowhand520

I won't bet until I see who the the GOP nominates.


38 posted on 03/15/2005 1:31:03 PM PST by kabar
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To: slowhand520
Mark Warner or Evan Bayh

Whoever their candidate, a) it will be interesting to see how the 'blogs' continue and the LM as well, which was the 'muscle' behind sKerry, and the former behind his defeat and b) it does seem that Hil is the convenient diversion so that effort won't be spent looking into the opinions and platform of the real potential nominee.

39 posted on 03/15/2005 3:06:05 PM PST by sevry
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