Skip to comments.SCHIAVO CASE: APPEAL COURT SAYS NO TO HER PARENTS
Posted on 03/16/2005 10:06:33 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- A state appeals court has refused to block the expected removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube on Friday.
You promising to start an armed revolution in Florida? Or are you merely talking out your dorsal vent?
I can't comment on this any longer publicly...
Oh I see, you are concerned about us and Terri. Excuse my while I cough...
Apparently, you'd prefer not to deal with the fact that your side is attracting people like him, and that they have the potential to cause irreparable harm.
OOOHHH-KAY FINE. I get it.
Roger that, retracting masts and scope, going emergency deep.
Great we understand each other. You think I you know what is good for me and I think I know that your motives are less than pure. And so it goes.
Again, you miss the point. The point is that your long affidavit (and probably many short ones as well) have been considered and the civil authorities did not believe them sufficient to dislodge the presumption that the husband was acting in the best interests of his wife.
Many here (perhaps not you, I don't know) really quarrel with the result. They simply want their judgments substituted for those of the husband on some a priori basis. That's what drew me into this discussion. The argument was that the Scriptures (which are, in my view, the dispositive Word of God) would provide another outcome. I do not believe that so. That argument appears to have been abandoned in favor of a kind of PETA-like obligation to be kind to all living things. That is pure nonsense.
Apart from that, I believe the general rule of the husband acting for the wife when she cannot, is a good one absent sufficient evidence to overturn it. Moreover, I think it is very good that we have had precisely that careful review of the sufficiency of that evidence. It has now been reviewed and found insufficient to overturn the husband's presumptive role. Now is the time to accept that determination.
So, the state of the case is that (i) the Scriptures do not compel extraordinary efforts to force feed her and (ii) the courts have carefully examined the evidence against the husband's decisions and proposed decisions and declined to displace him as decision-maker on Terry's behalf. The courts have done what they are best at and I trust that determination. The fact that RCC dogma might have compelled a different result is irrelevant.
However, it looks like y'all don't even want GOOD advice. So be it.
1 John 5:16 [KJV] If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.And, as aready cited, the following:
Exodus 20:13 [KJV] Thou shalt not kill.Keeping with sound hermeneutics, one can look at the character of those in Scripture who committed suicide. You can do that on your own if you like. You will not find a single believer who did this. Finally, the burden of proof rests on you to show that Exodus 20:13 does not apply to the self.
The courts, after hearing almost endless, heartrending testimony have decided the husband should. I accept that.
You feel nothing, knowing that Terri, who is not terminal, will be dying a slow, painful death, her life ebbing away, hour by hour? That does not bother you? You won't spend any time thinking about the pain she is in?
BTW I feel for you for the loss of your wife to cancer. That is a truly horrific disease, esp. in its most aggressive forms. It is no respector of persons. My own wife lost her father two weeks ago to small-cell lung cancer. He hid his disease from us and did not seek treatment, so his death appeared to happen suddenly. My grandpa died from metastatic colon cancer, as did an aunt. All had chemo, and morphine near the end. I have no quarrel with that - the morphine is intended to ease pain and will sometimes hasten death. They were terminal.
Terri is not terminal, however, except in the sense that we all are. You can be sure Terri will not be offered any food or drink on a tray while her life slowly ebbs away. Clearly the intent is her demise.
How much power do you suppose FL will need to murder Terri by starvation?????
Scriptural?? Adultery? Illegitimate children?
Refusing medical treatment, denying visits to family and friends, disallowing trips outside and music and pictures?
Killing her cats? Stealing her wedding ring?
That is NOT scriptural. The husband is supposed to love his wife MORE than himself.
Hey, look, take it any way you want, okay? I was just pointing out to some here that Gritz' involvement in ANYTHING means bad juju.
Some people might not know of his activities OR his folloowers' proclivities. My "motives" don't change the FACT that he's bad news.
But hey, go ahead...you guys seem to have it ALL sewn up.
...and I *certainly* have NO COMMENT here either...
Settin' 10-10 and 4100 shaft, FIVE set in the tube, brakes off, numbers marked myself.
Not really I don't think. It was legal to kill the Jews in Germany, too. You people just want to start with Terri, IMO. Must be the thrill I guess : )
HEAR THAT FOLKS? So we better call and e-mail AND GET OUR FRIENDS TO CALL AND E-MAIL our congresspersons and ask them to vote for HR 1151 and call our senators and ask them to vote for S. 539.
If these bills are passed it will help Terri and ALL OF US to not have to die a painful death of starvation, unless we put it in writing. Which reminds me, it would be nuts to put in writing such a horrible death.
Floridians should do the same and also ask their politicians to support 701.
I believe Bo wants her alive. How do you want her?
...would you have handed Elian over as well?
If it works out just right, Terri could STARVE TO DEATH almost 5 years to the EASTER that ELIAN was DONE UP BY THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT...
Just once I would like one of these assh*le Godless moron judges say, "Before I make any decision regarding an innocent person's life, I need to go and witness for myself her (Terri Schiavo) condition."
Once they see her in the flesh, there is no way the feeding tube would be pulled.