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New Program Breaks Apple's Itunes DRM
Betanews.com ^

Posted on 03/18/2005 10:30:26 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ

With the recent high-profile news reports of ways to circumvent Napster-to-Go's digital rights management (DRM) software, it was only a matter of time before someone targeted iTunes.

Hacker Jon Lech Johansen has done just that. Most known for his software that breaks the copy protection of DVDs, Johansen with the help of two counterparts has released PyMusique, what they bill as "a fair interface to the iTunes Music Store."

(Excerpt) Read more at betanews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; break; bummersteve; drm; intellectualproperty; itunes; macmoonies; napsterisbetter

1 posted on 03/18/2005 10:30:35 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ
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To: Next_Time_NJ

Hmmmm.


2 posted on 03/18/2005 10:34:08 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

I don't agree with this but who'd want to pay 99 cents a song anyway?


4 posted on 03/18/2005 10:36:16 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

On a related subject, I have used Kazaa for over a year. Last week I installed two other P2P's that rounds out my selection nicely" Ares, and Limewire.


5 posted on 03/18/2005 10:36:37 AM PST by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I use Kazaa and Limewire, but if im impatient or i cant find the song... and its in Itunes..ill buy it.. I have bought like 20 songs from them.


6 posted on 03/18/2005 10:45:03 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ (NJ demorat exterminator)
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To: RobRoy
Try WinMX and Emule or Edonkey..... WinMX for music... the other 2 for other file types.
7 posted on 03/18/2005 10:54:18 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: Next_Time_NJ; Poohbah; veronica

How long before the RIAA comes knockin' on his door?


8 posted on 03/18/2005 10:55:16 AM PST by hchutch ("But, Rally, they're SMOKE GRENADES.")
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To: RobRoy

The record companies' business model hasn't changed since 1955. Technology has changed. They need to get with the program. Free music does NOT hurt the record companies, bad product does. People will pay to go to concerts, but t-shirts and if they are BIG fans will pay for the music. The fight against Napster/Kazaa/Limewire etc. is a waste of time and money.


9 posted on 03/18/2005 10:57:28 AM PST by Cat loving Texan
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To: Next_Time_NJ

Will someone please come to my house and load my ipod?


10 posted on 03/18/2005 10:59:00 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

I'll buy it from you if you can't get it loaded. Need one for my Mini.


11 posted on 03/18/2005 11:39:24 AM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: Next_Time_NJ

Good for him. Reversing engineering is an important part of technical innovation, and used to be protected until the ill-conceived and often just plain moronic DMCA came to be.


12 posted on 03/18/2005 11:40:28 AM PST by Smogger
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To: Swordmaker

You might want to look at this...


13 posted on 03/18/2005 11:46:28 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: Bush2000; antiRepublicrat; Action-America; eno_; N3WBI3; zeugma; TechJunkYard; ShorelineMike; ...

"Breaking" iTunes PING!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping list, Freepmail me.


14 posted on 03/18/2005 6:24:14 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Cat loving Texan
I have thought the same thing for the last few years. If a music act is good, people will buy their CD's and go to their concerts.

When is the last time you heard a really good band or music act with a original sound? Been awhile, hasn't it.
15 posted on 03/18/2005 6:42:29 PM PST by Ticonderoga34
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To: Next_Time_NJ

This is just plain wrong...


16 posted on 03/18/2005 6:43:26 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Cat loving Texan
The record companies' business model hasn't changed since 1955. Technology has changed. They need to get with the program. Free music does NOT hurt the record companies, bad product does.

So if McDonald's just gave away steak dinners, they'd make more money?

17 posted on 03/18/2005 6:58:23 PM PST by anonymous_user (Not everything's a conspiracy.)
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To: anonymous_user
So if McDonald's just gave away steak dinners, they'd make more money?

Note: analogies work as argumentation only when they actually parallel the situation actually under discussion. Otherwise they are just hot air.

Apple's iTunes music store's business model is NOTHING like McDonalds', and for that matter, McDonalds isn't giving away anything.

A truer analogy would be "So if some kids down the block give away cold burgers for free, provided you want to climb up the tree to the kids' 'burger joint' to get them, you think that's going to hurt McDonalds' profits?"

18 posted on 03/18/2005 9:58:06 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine
Note: analogies work as argumentation only when they actually parallel the situation actually under discussion. Otherwise they are just hot air.

Note, yourself. You're the one who's pushing free recordings as a formula for better music and a better business model. Who's full of hot air?

19 posted on 03/18/2005 10:45:11 PM PST by anonymous_user (Not everything's a conspiracy.)
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To: Bush2000
This is just plain wrong...

Is this an official statement from Redmond or is this an actual reply that you thought up?

20 posted on 03/18/2005 11:26:10 PM PST by IncPen (( The Liberal's reward is self-disgust - RM ))
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To: anonymous_user
You're the one who's pushing free recordings as a formula for better music and a better business model.

Never said that. Please don't put words in my mouth. That's dishonest, and I resent it.

All I am saying and all I have ever said is that the industry has not been hurt, is not being hurt, and is most likely helped by peer sharing as it exists today.

21 posted on 03/19/2005 12:59:29 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine
All I am saying and all I have ever said is that the industry has not been hurt, is not being hurt, and is most likely helped by peer sharing as it exists today.

You're right, I re-read your original post, and I apologize. This is a hot-button issue for me, and I tend to go a little bat... well, you know.

You're also right that P2P help change the industry, but not the way most people think.

The theory is that not buying music will force the music industry to make "better music" when the reverse is happening. As we've seen, we're knee deep in talentless pretty-people with TV shows, movies, lines of clothing, perfumes, toys... oh, and they have a music CD out too.

Meanwhile small labels with real musicians and no ulterior marketing plan will simply say, "why bother?" if the music is free.

The record companies should embrace the free music model as a way to quietly monopolize the "music marketing industry," if they aren't doing so already. They could use a few high-profile RIAA legal actions (e.g. taking grandmas and nine-year-olds to court) to incite a little rebellion and self-righteous anger.

So all this painless and socially just music swapping will not hurt the "music industry" but it will most certainly hurt music.

22 posted on 03/19/2005 7:01:03 AM PST by anonymous_user (Not everything's a conspiracy.)
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To: John Valentine
All I am saying and all I have ever said is that the industry has not been hurt, is not being hurt, and is most likely helped by peer sharing as it exists today.

Wrong. Industry sales are down drastically. And the iTunes store isn't making up the difference.
23 posted on 03/19/2005 10:28:43 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: IncPen
Is this an official statement from Redmond or is this an actual reply that you thought up?

You know where you can shove your snide comments, loser...
24 posted on 03/19/2005 10:29:56 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
You know where you can shove your snide comments, loser

Your words.

They wound.

I guess I'll need a band aid for that. Or, perhaps a patch.

Bwa hahahaahaha!

25 posted on 03/19/2005 11:35:28 AM PST by IncPen ( The Liberal's reward is self-disgust)
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To: Bush2000
Wrong. Industry sales are down drastically. And the iTunes store isn't making up the difference

That was not my understanding. If you're right, I may stand corrected if a downturn is not due to other causes.

26 posted on 03/19/2005 5:41:47 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine
http://www.riaa.com/news/newsletter/pdf/2003yearEnd.pdf

From 2000-2001, sales of CDs were down 6.4% from the previous year
From 2001-2002, sales of CDs were down an additional 8.9%
From 2002-2003, sales of CDs were down an additional 7.1%

The market for CDs has shrunk dramatically -- and any increase of sales due to iTunes and other online markets is simply not making up the difference. People may argue about the cause, but it's pretty obvious that file-sharing is a major, major impact.
27 posted on 03/19/2005 6:20:48 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
The market for CDs has shrunk dramatically

Yeah, that's what happens when you keep trying to sell crap. Ask the DNC.

28 posted on 03/21/2005 6:07:16 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: steve-b
Yeah, that's what happens when you keep trying to sell crap. Ask the DNC.

It's always been crap, Steve. But people don't care. They like to buy crap. Unless they can get it for free. Which they can. Hence, the drop in sales ...
29 posted on 03/22/2005 9:53:41 AM PST by Bush2000
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