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Terri's husband isn't the enemy, guardian says
Orlando Sentinel ^ | February 25, 2005 | Mike Thomas

Posted on 03/19/2005 9:18:52 AM PST by EveningStar

Wolfson's report is based on court files, depositions, medical records and interviews with everyone involved.

That said, I begin with the most explosive allegation:

Did Michael try to kill Terri?

Wolfson laughs. "No!"

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Wolfson's report states that in the four years after her collapse, Michael "had insistently held to the premise that Theresa could recover and the evidence is incontrovertible that he gave his heart and soul to her treatment and care . . . In late autumn of 1990, following months of therapy and testing and formal diagnoses of persistent vegetative state with no evidence of improvement, Michael took Theresa to California, where she received an experimental thalamic stimulator implant in her brain. Michael remained in California caring for Theresa during a period of several months."

Says Wolfson now: "Michael was adoring of her. One nursing home complained he was hostile and abusive of the staff in championing her care. She was immaculately kept. In 13 years, she never had one bedsore."

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: jaywolfson; psychoticmalenurse; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; wifekiller
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To: Neets
From what I'm hearing, it's hurting the GOP, bigtime. Hell, Neets, there are longtime Republican FReepers who are having second thoughts because of this!

The extremists have forced a crowbar into a fragile dividing line, and pulled it REALLY hard this week.

851 posted on 03/20/2005 3:05:24 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: Long Cut

It was just a matter of time, I saw it coming a while ago.

I am still trying to figure out what these congress persons where thinking when they decided to dive into this pool headfirst.

Did they not think of the long term implications?

Would all of the cheerleaders be cheering if this were Clinton as President and his fellow dems stepping in to allow an abortion that for some reason a state judiciary found "necessary"?

Yea, right.


852 posted on 03/20/2005 3:09:26 PM PST by Neets
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To: Long Cut

From a political point of view you clearly hit the proverbial nail on the head. Great summary!

Thanks


853 posted on 03/20/2005 3:09:36 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Long Cut

"WOW! Good thing nothing else is going on..."

Funny, my husband just said the same thing yesterday.


854 posted on 03/20/2005 3:13:27 PM PST by highlandbreeze
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To: Howlin
Sad that Hannity and Rush ramped up the hysteria on this issue. Suggesting that the husband was somehow culpable in her condition.

I hope they get their pants sued off.

855 posted on 03/20/2005 3:21:35 PM PST by OldFriend ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child might have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: highlandbreeze
Seriously. Ho wmuch time, effort, and taxpayer's MONEY has now been wasted so Congressional Republicans (who SHOULD know better than this) can re-examine a case that has already been litigated, decided, examined on appeal, and passe muster each time?

And what message does it send to proclaim that the US government will now apparently meddle in the affairs of ONE family's dispute?

856 posted on 03/20/2005 3:22:59 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: OldFriend

Did you hear Tom Delay yesterday? I was stunned at the personal vindictiveness a sitting United States senator said about another human being. It was absolutely breathtaking.

This is wrong; just wrong.


857 posted on 03/20/2005 3:23:15 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Neets
"I am still trying to figure out what these congress persons where thinking when they decided to dive into this pool headfirst."

They didn't think.

This has been in litigation in various forms for 15 years and except for the actions by the Fla legislature the others stood by and watched.

They jumped in an empty pool and took the propaganda out there hook line and sinker. They didn't look at the fact of the case. It's been through the courts 19 times as pointed out by the Dems and if they had a problem with it they should have said / done something before the last minute. To make them look even more stupid, they didn't act the first time the tube was to be removed some five years ago!
858 posted on 03/20/2005 3:25:44 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Long Cut

Quite frankly, a message that everyone, on this board in particular, should be very afraid of. I'm not buying that it only will effect Terri's situation, and I haven't seen where the Judge has done wrong. I may not agree, but I'm also not a lawyer.


859 posted on 03/20/2005 3:26:18 PM PST by highlandbreeze
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To: Howlin

Didn't hear it.....can you fill me in?


860 posted on 03/20/2005 3:26:18 PM PST by OldFriend ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child might have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: OldFriend

Let me see if I can find it for you.


861 posted on 03/20/2005 3:26:56 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Smartaleck

Or the second time a year or so ago?


862 posted on 03/20/2005 3:27:14 PM PST by Neets
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To: Howlin; OldFriend
There are a LOT of people who are open to lawsuits by Mike Schiavo when this is all over.

As for DeLay and to a lesser extent Frist, they will soon regret parroting the Schindlers' propaganda in such a way, methinks.

Hell, even if Mike Schiavo were now somehow to be charged with some sort of crime, the jury pool is now poisoned. So much for those who still hold out THAT hope.

863 posted on 03/20/2005 3:27:14 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: Howlin

Do I even want to know?


864 posted on 03/20/2005 3:28:00 PM PST by highlandbreeze
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To: Long Cut

IMO, they are only hearing one side of the story.

This is going to blow up in their collective faces, and that, in turn, means in ours.


865 posted on 03/20/2005 3:28:25 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Smartaleck
IMO, the republicans are doing the right thing for all the wrong reasons.....but it's the right thing to do.

How do you sentence to death a living innocent person.

866 posted on 03/20/2005 3:28:26 PM PST by OldFriend ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child might have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: highlandbreeze

It depends on whether you care if the GOP is embarassed or not......LOL.


867 posted on 03/20/2005 3:30:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

LOL1 I guess that's already been done. If you got it, I'll look at it.


868 posted on 03/20/2005 3:31:42 PM PST by highlandbreeze
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To: highlandbreeze

You know that the democrats will also use this precedence setting event to their benefit at any opportunity.


869 posted on 03/20/2005 3:34:14 PM PST by Neets
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To: Howlin
It already has, Howlin.

Think about it...the GOP has just told the American people that all they would have had to do all these years on issues like

Social Security
Tax Reform
Tort Reform
Energy Reform
Downsizing Government
Improving Defense
Winning the Terror War
And a host of other issues was to show a video of a PVS woman and to repeat a slew of wild propaganda. To use crazed emotion and hyperbole instead of facts and reason.

We've long prided ourselves on, and even boasted about, being the party of Reason and facts and logic. We no longer have that ability.

870 posted on 03/20/2005 3:34:59 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: Neets

"Or the second time a year or so ago?"

If your refering to the removal of the feeding tube, the issue first came up in 1998 and went into all kinds of litigation and two years later Greer ok'ed the removal. They stood by and didn't do diddly squat.

Good time line here:
http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/infopage.html#timeline


871 posted on 03/20/2005 3:35:30 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Neets

You are not kidding. And that makes it even scarier. I wonder why more people haven't thought of it. Perhaps when it'll be too late?


872 posted on 03/20/2005 3:36:44 PM PST by highlandbreeze
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To: Howlin

"This is going to blow up in their collective faces, and that, in turn, means in ours."

My turn........AMEN.^5


873 posted on 03/20/2005 3:37:11 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: EveningStar

In late 1991, 1½ years after Terri’s collapse, Michael Schiavo became involved in an intimate relationship with Cindy Shook. The romance continued for approximately one year. It can be documented that the two spent a weekend at the Don Caesar hotel in St. Petersburg Beach and they also contacted a Century 21 Realtor on the premise of purchasing a home.

In May of 1992, at the apex of the romance, Schiavo had Terri’s 2 pet cats euthanized to clear the way for his moving in with Cindy and her pet dog.

In the summer of 1992, Schiavo moved into his parent’s home. We can speculate with reasonable accuracy, it was at the instructions of his attorney, since the living arrangement would be contrary to Schiavo’s "loving husband" image they were projecting for the upcoming November 1992 malpractice trial.

In April 2001, Cindy Shook (married name Brasher) was interviewed by an investigator working in Terri’s behalf. Unwilling to come forward because of her immense fear of Schiavo, Cindy had to be subpoenaed and was then subsequently deposed on May 8, 2001 to try and learn more regarding her intimate knowledge of Michael Schiavo’s character traits.

Excerpts; May 8, 2001 Deposition:

Cindy Shook describing Schiavo’s possessiveness.

"he’s very jealous. He stalked me at my…at where I worked after I stopped dating…when he would get mad at me he would tell me, I would rather be laying in bed in the nursing home with her than with you. I mean he can be the most incredibly mean person"

When asked if she were afraid that Michael would physically harm her or if he would harm children.

"I am concerned about retaliation because I have a child -I have children and a husband. I know him, I know what he told me I said he could be a very mean person."

She spoke of how Schiavo stalked her for close to a year after the breakup and that she received repeated phone calls.

"He came on the floor looking for me several times. I felt it was out of character for him to get a job as an orderly at the hospital That was concerning to me. When he would come up to the floor looking for her she was not scared the first time but later was scared.

In town I would look up when I was driving…not at my work- she would look up in the rear view mirror and there would be Michael Schiavo. I would look up and he would be behind me in traffic. It continued for several months after he didn’t work at the hospital. She would change lanes, try to make a turn and he would do the same. He did this about ten times.

One time he was behind me in traffic he got next to me in a two-lane going the same way, and he changed lanes basically right on top of where I was at, and I had to swerve not to be hit. I had to swerve off the road. Michael ran me off the road. I considered it as stalking, dangerous and guessed potentially life threatening."

Cindy thought about getting a restraining order. She talked to an off duty police officer in her building

They discussed marriage. She said Schiavo asked what would you do if I asked you to marry me. He never discussed getting a divorce.

Cindy said Schiavo got angry when asked questions about Terri saying:

"this had destroyed his life and he was being robed of a normal life."

Regarding Terri’s care, according to Cindy Shook, Michael Schiavo said,

"How the hell should I know we never spoke about this, my God I was only 25 years old. How the hell should I know? We were young. We never spoke of this."

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Michael Schiavo resides and owns real estate with another woman, Jodi Centonze, whom he has called his fiancée (a person whom he has been found, through private investigation, to have known from his hometown in Pennsylvania around the time of his marriage to Theresa in 1986 and with whom he has had at least 2 known and admitted to children in the last 18 years). As regards to guardianship, in later court testimony (deposition of September 27, 1999), Michael Schiavo when asked if he would relinquish guardianship to Terri’s parents said: Basically I don’t want to do it. In answer as to why he didn’t want to do it he added: Because they put me through pretty much hell the last few years in the litigations to save their daughter from being subjected to an untimely, unjustified death, and that was the only reason. He then states: I am Terri’s husband and I will remain her guardian. Shortly thereafter Felos asks for a minute with his client. He takes Michael aside and when they come back Michael in answer to a question from Felos in regards to if there was any other reason why he refused to give up the guardianship adds: because Terri’s parents wouldn’t honor her wishes.


874 posted on 03/20/2005 3:42:48 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Cold Heat; Melas; Modernman
Ping to #842. Interested in your opinions and position, given what all you've had to say over the past couplwe of days.

It would seem that there is war afoot within the GOP.

875 posted on 03/20/2005 3:43:56 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: kcvl; robertpaulsen
With respect to RP for stealing his line,

So if Michael was a "nice guy", you'd have no problem with him carrying out his wife's wishes?

Is that what this is about? That he's not a "nice guy"? I was unaware that that negated his rights.

876 posted on 03/20/2005 3:47:11 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: Long Cut
they fall directly along the line between "Fiscal/National Security Conservative" and "Religio-Social Conservative". Those in group #2 have now demonstrated that things such as State's Rights, rule of law, and reason instead of emotionalism matter not a whit when they WWAAAAANNNTTTTT something.

Well said my FRiend.

877 posted on 03/20/2005 3:49:12 PM PST by Cold Heat (A former republican , looking for a new home that is void of puritans.)
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To: Peach
...think more carefully about signing Living Wills and making their intentions clear.

This is truly the only good that may come from this awful nightmare.

MY Durable Power of Attorney is 15 years old, and am going to update it this week so that no one, no one at all, can come between my wishes and my son's promise to carry it out.
May anyone attempting to keep me trapped in a non-funtioning brain and body, roast in you know where.
I'm sorry for those of you who truly believe you are doing right by prolonging this poor woman's ordeal, and that includes her poor parents.

May God forgive us all.

878 posted on 03/20/2005 3:49:49 PM PST by meema
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To: kcvl

Do you have links for those quotes?


879 posted on 03/20/2005 3:51:08 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: meema

Precisely.

We have Living Wills and have an appointment in April to make sure everything we want in there, is in there.

And I told my parents last night in no uncertain terms, they are NEVER to keep me alive or fight my husband or sisters on this, if it's all within the scope of my Living Will.

And, btw, THIS is when Michael finally put his foot down. This is court testimony:

Court testimony provided by members of the Schindler family included very personal statements about their desire and intention to ensure that Theresa remain alive . . . at any and all costs. Nearly gruesome examples were given, eliciting agreement by family members that in the event Theresa should contract diabetes and subsequent gangrene in each of her limbs, they would agree to amputate each limb and would then, were she to be diagnosed with heart disease, perform open-heart surgery. Within the testimony, as part of the hypothetical presented, Schindler family members stated that even if Theresa had told them of her intention to have artificial nutrition withdrawn, they would not do it.



880 posted on 03/20/2005 3:52:26 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: EveningStar

Just upgraded my web site.

You may participate in an on-line poll on my site. The poll has just been put up. It records your vote so that you cannot vote more than once.

http://newspundit.net

http://newspundit.net/terrischiavocase.html

Please pass the word.


881 posted on 03/20/2005 3:56:35 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: OldFriend
"How do you sentence to death a living innocent person."

I appreciate your thoughts and no doubt many have the same question on their minds.

After much reading of what those supposedly in the know say, the experts, it comes down to this, a formerly living human being has been reduced to a permanent vegetative state, PVS.

This is a valid medical term indicating that a person may have some activity in their lower brain stem, the part that is responsible for the automatic responses, but doesn't have the use of the cerebral cortex.......the part that makes us human and separates us from a plant.

Various radiology test indicate parts of her brain have liquefied, as a result of oxygen starvation, the most important parts. The odds of her recovering are nil and any continued feeding will only serve to keep some semblance of a person functioning.

Bottom line, she is no more being starved to death than when a person forgets to water their tomato plant.

Please forgive me if this sounds crude. Were I to believe she was a living human being I would not state it as such.

Her soul, God Bless her, is in heaven and not here on earth. Let everyone contemplate the words Grace and Mercy and each find his or her way through this trying time.

Lastly, "Let death be not Proud."

882 posted on 03/20/2005 3:57:50 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Long Cut
Hi LC. Long time, old friend.

You always were the voice of reason...

Stay well. :)

883 posted on 03/20/2005 3:59:12 PM PST by veronica
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To: Long Cut
fanatical prolifers

You mean like the fellow who wrote this book?



884 posted on 03/20/2005 4:00:13 PM PST by jla
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To: Long Cut
...fall directly along the line between "Fiscal/National Security Conservative" and "Religio-Social Conservative".

Tell me, which "group" is the President Bush in? Justice Scalia? Phyllis Schlafly? Jean Kirkpatrick? G. Gordon Liddy? William F. Buckley?

885 posted on 03/20/2005 4:04:51 PM PST by jla
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To: Long Cut

Adn what will happen is that the GOP will decide to not rely on them for anything - they only go there when interest coincide, and under no other circumstance.


886 posted on 03/20/2005 4:12:45 PM PST by hchutch ("But, Rally, they're SMOKE GRENADES.")
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To: Long Cut
So if Michael was a "nice guy", you'd have no problem with him carrying out his wife's wishes?

I couldn't care less if the jerk is a "nice guy". No one, including you, knows what "his wife's wishes" are except him and Terri and unfortunately she isn't able to tell anyone.

887 posted on 03/20/2005 4:18:33 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Peach
Thanks, Peach. It's not easy to let go of someone you love so dearly. I have warned both of my sons, and the daughter-in-law, with whom I live, that it is very hard to do. I was my Mom's DPOA, and for 3 months it was the hardest thing I ever had to do. But that is why she chose me. With prayers constantly, she finally went to Heaven in my arms.

It is sickening to understand that her parents would force Terri to go through all that,even if she had told them not to...I do not understand that thinking.

I pray MY loved ones will love me enough to let me go.

888 posted on 03/20/2005 4:20:41 PM PST by meema
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To: Peach
Thanks, Peach. It's not easy to let go of someone you love so dearly. I have warned both of my sons, and the daughter-in-law, with whom I live, that it is very hard to do. I was my Mom's DPOA, and for 3 months it was the hardest thing I ever had to do. But that is why she chose me. With prayers constantly, she finally went to Heaven in my arms.

It is sickening to understand that her parents would force Terri to go through all that,even if she had told them not to...I do not understand that thinking.

I pray MY loved ones will love me enough to let me go.

889 posted on 03/20/2005 4:20:53 PM PST by meema
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To: Long Cut

I fear you're right on most counts. I see this one as one big powderkeg that's just set to blow and take a lot of people with it. Politically, it's going to be ugly.


890 posted on 03/20/2005 4:21:18 PM PST by Melas
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To: meema

I've watched my stepfather do it for his daughter and my husband for his aunt. I'm so sorry you had to go through that for your mother, but I've promised my mother certain things too and that is what we do when we love someone.


891 posted on 03/20/2005 4:21:54 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: kcvl

My my, how Clintonesque!


892 posted on 03/20/2005 4:31:48 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Salvation

"Please pass the word."

Hey Caesar, are we suppose to give a thumbs up or down and what are you trying to accomplish.

Life and death isn't a popularity poll or hadn't you stop to think about it?


893 posted on 03/20/2005 4:37:52 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: meema
I pray MY loved ones will love me enough to let me go.

Indeed!

894 posted on 03/20/2005 4:43:12 PM PST by Neets
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To: Long Cut

Yeah, if one member were trying to finish the job of killing another.


895 posted on 03/20/2005 4:48:35 PM PST by sobieski
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To: MortMan; Peach
Also to the others I know I missed.

What I don't like to see are continuous mis-representations by various freepers and have tried, along with a host of other freepers, to make sure that we aren't like DU in spreading lies.

AMEN

Schiavo Videotapes Offer Powerful But Misleading Evidence

The videos run only a few seconds. -------- Seen without context, the snippets raise questions for laypeople. Is Terri Schiavo aware? Can she hear? Does she understand? Less widely known are four hours of images, taped in summer 2002, of Schiavo's inert stare from her hospice bed.

896 posted on 03/20/2005 4:58:02 PM PST by cajun scpo
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To: Neets; Long Cut

The negative political fallout for the GOP is going to be huge. I know that it's the norm for the party in the WH to lose congressional seats in an off-year but I'm afraid that the GOP is going to lose a LOT of seats in '06.

Fools rush in... :(


897 posted on 03/20/2005 5:13:18 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: cajun scpo

Very poignant. Thanks


898 posted on 03/20/2005 5:21:51 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: EveningStar; Poohbah; Long Cut; Hildy; Neets; veronica; Peach

I do not see huge fallout in this case one way or the other.

I mean, Judge Greer looks like the kind of activist judge the GOP has complained about. The Dems cannot defend this guy too hard, or else it is going to hurt them in a Supreme Court fight.

The GOP had little to lose by forcing the issue. It has opened fault lines, though, and they will need to be dealt with by 2008. Maybe there is a realignment coming.


899 posted on 03/20/2005 5:24:44 PM PST by hchutch ("But, Rally, they're SMOKE GRENADES.")
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To: Peach; Neets
Thanks to you both.

I have stayed off these Terri threads for almost all the time, but this is so upsetting to me when 'our Republicans' in D.C. make absolute fools of themselves in such a blatant political way, I wonder what is to become of us...

900 posted on 03/20/2005 5:25:49 PM PST by meema
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