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Senate in Session Sunday 4:30 PM (Senate Passes Schiavo Law)

Posted on 03/20/2005 1:34:36 PM PST by FoxPro

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KEYWORDS: 109th; 14thamendment; civilrights; constitution; cultureofdeath; eugenics; killingtheweak; lifelibertyhappiness; schiavo; shiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrisfight; terrislaw; uselesseaters; ussenate; whenwillthebtchdie
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1 posted on 03/20/2005 1:34:36 PM PST by FoxPro
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To: FoxPro

The SEnate has Passed the Terri Shiavo LAW.


2 posted on 03/20/2005 1:35:35 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: FoxPro

The SEnate has Passed the Terri Shiavo LAW.


3 posted on 03/20/2005 1:35:45 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: joyce11111

Why do i feel it is to late?


4 posted on 03/20/2005 1:36:27 PM PST by Halls
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To: Halls

Not too late.


5 posted on 03/20/2005 1:50:19 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Halls

I give up. Why?


6 posted on 03/20/2005 1:50:19 PM PST by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: FoxPro

Can someone summarize where we are right now?


7 posted on 03/20/2005 1:53:57 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa
Waiting for House bill now. Dems delayed and they are waiting for a quorum of 218 members. A roll call vote will be done at 12:01 a.m. Monday.

8 posted on 03/20/2005 1:55:53 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000
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To: Prince Caspian

To save a ife.


9 posted on 03/20/2005 1:56:48 PM PST by demlosers (Soylent Green is made in Florida)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

And what is word on Terry?


10 posted on 03/20/2005 1:57:21 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: demlosers

life = ife *sigh*


11 posted on 03/20/2005 1:57:38 PM PST by demlosers (Soylent Green is made in Florida)
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To: Raycpa

They unanimously voted to have Terri's feeding tube reinserted !! Not sure of the exact timing but shortly.


12 posted on 03/20/2005 1:58:12 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: joyce11111
The SEnate has Passed the Terri Shiavo LAW.

It is not a law yet. It is a bill until the president signs it.

13 posted on 03/20/2005 2:00:28 PM PST by Semper911 (If Jimmy cracked corn and no one cares, why is there a song about him?)
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To: Semper911

I've got it on good faith that the President will sign it into law.


14 posted on 03/20/2005 2:01:41 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Boardwalk

Is this signed by both House and Senate ? Why is Senate meeting at midnight? I Am confused.


15 posted on 03/20/2005 2:02:44 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: FoxPro

Did anyone see James Moran(sic) and Barney Frank today?

Pontificating on the "SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE BETWEEN ONE MAN AND TWO WOMEN"

We are doomed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


16 posted on 03/20/2005 2:05:05 PM PST by sodpoodle (sparrows are underrated)
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To: FoxPro

house blocks senate by inaction


17 posted on 03/20/2005 2:06:04 PM PST by freddiedavis
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To: Raycpa

The debate later will be about which version to except, senate or congress.


18 posted on 03/20/2005 2:07:58 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Boardwalk

Actually, the law does not call for the reinsertion of Terri's feeding tube - it calls for a Federal judicial review of her case to see if any violation of her due process rights have been violated, and the law assumes the judge will reinsert the tube as she has to be alive for the case to be reviewed. It also will be in the same court in Florida, but will be handled by a Federal judge in that court. At least that is how I am understanding this law, but I could be mistaken.


19 posted on 03/20/2005 2:08:06 PM PST by Texas Deb
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To: Raycpa

The Senate passed the bill by unanimous voice vote. The House has not passed the bill since a few democrats opposed it earlier today. The House is reconvening at midnight tonight, and if they have a quorum of 218, they will be able to pass it and send it to the President.

But this bill only gives standing to Terri's parents in Federal Court. Federal judges will need to review the case and overturn or stay the FLA court judge's order. Her parent's lawyer has teed up the Federal court to be ready to act as soon as the bill is signed. At least that's my understanding.


20 posted on 03/20/2005 2:10:06 PM PST by HighFlyer
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To: Texas Deb

Should be the bill - not law yet.


21 posted on 03/20/2005 2:11:04 PM PST by Texas Deb
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To: Boardwalk
good faith that the President will sign it into law.

No doubt here either. I was just trying to keep our vocabulary straight.

(Semper911 <--- Self-appointed director of the FR Vocab Police)

22 posted on 03/20/2005 2:11:39 PM PST by Semper911 (If Jimmy cracked corn and no one cares, why is there a song about him?)
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To: Boardwalk

My understanding is that the "law" only allows the case to be heard/reviewed by a Federal Judge. This is not a slam dunk by any means, is it? I, personally, would think there are a number of federal judges that could rule just like Greer.

Praying, that if it be God's will, that there will be a federal judge who will order the tube to be reinserted pending review. But......and I emphasize this.....IF IT IS GOD'S will.

Does anyone know which district this might be presented in? Florida, D.C.? Other?


23 posted on 03/20/2005 2:11:58 PM PST by justshe (Become a monthly donor; eliminate Freepathons!)
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To: joyce11111; Arthur Wildfire! March; PhilDragoo; devolve; yall
The SEnate has Passed the Terri Shiavo LAW Bill.

Excellent. Now President Bush needs to SIGN it into law.


24 posted on 03/20/2005 2:13:10 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: FoxPro

Does anyone know if Jeb will be up for re-election ?


25 posted on 03/20/2005 2:13:47 PM PST by Awestruck (Let Terri Live!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

DELAY ON NOWWWWWWWW


26 posted on 03/20/2005 2:14:00 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: MeekOneGOP

CNN HAS DELAY ON.................


27 posted on 03/20/2005 2:14:33 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: HighFlyer; Mark in the Old South; Terriergal
The House has not passed the bill since a few democrats opposed it earlier today.

Wow. Now there's a shocker. /sarcasm.

I rest my case.

28 posted on 03/20/2005 2:14:55 PM PST by b4its2late (A day without sunshine is like, well, night.)
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To: b4its2late; All

Fox News reported earlier that the minute this is signed into law, that it will face a judicial challenge as the bill has been written too narrowly, and as such, falls under the "Bill of Attainder" restrictions. Hence the law will be ruled unconstituitional.

Are there any atty's on the thread that can enlighten me as to this thinking?


29 posted on 03/20/2005 2:19:12 PM PST by justshe (Become a monthly donor; eliminate Freepathons!)
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To: nicmarlo
CNN HAS DELAY ON......

Thanks. I couldn't find it on FOX or See Spam


30 posted on 03/20/2005 2:20:42 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: FoxPro

ping


31 posted on 03/20/2005 2:20:57 PM PST by truthluva
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To: MeekOneGOP

I won't watch FOX anymore as pertains to Terri. They are INTENTIONALLY spreading DISINFORMATION CONCERNING TERRI. They responded by snotty e-mail to corrections by FReepers about Terri's condition; they are taking as "truth" Greer's 'truth' about Terri.

They are NOT reporting NEWS about Terri. They are reporting LIES.


32 posted on 03/20/2005 2:22:16 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: FoxPro
Everything must be done to defend, promote and facilitate life. If we don't try and do this during our time on the planet then we are not fulfilling our contract with the Creator.

He gives us the gift of life. We must honor and cherish that gift.
33 posted on 03/20/2005 2:22:16 PM PST by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: Halls; Cindy; MamaDearest; All

Bombard the dems in the house with email, let them know we will not stand for this not passing and all their speeches tonight and their posturing is just that...

It IS going to pass so STOP showing off...I', off to email many of "My" dims in Illinois


34 posted on 03/20/2005 2:23:37 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE your Enemy !!!)
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To: nicmarlo
There is objective truth in the universe, even though most of the mainstream media wouldn't know what a honest fact was if it hit them in the face.
35 posted on 03/20/2005 2:23:49 PM PST by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: FoxPro
Some law professor was quoted on Fox this morning as saying that congressional interference was an abuse of federal power. I wonder what he thought about Waco?

Carolyn

36 posted on 03/20/2005 2:24:30 PM PST by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: FoxPro

Do any of you get the impression, like I do, that the date and time of the removal of the feeding tube was all pre-planned so as to hasten Terri's death?

The timing: from what I've read, Terri is being fed thrice a day via the tube. I'm assuming here breakfast, lunch and dinner. if we can call them such. The date and time for the removal was planned for Friday, March 18 at 1:00 pm. My question: was Terri fed before the removal at 1:00 pm? If not, then the removal became effective from the time the tube was removed in the morning after the first feeding. This would have hastened Terri' death.

The day: Friday, the 18th, Palm Sunday. Seems to me that this date was chosen as it was believed our "esteemed" politicians would leave The Capitol and go to their families for the weekend. This date, too, was an attempt by the satanic trio (Greer, Felon and Michael) to hamper legislative intervention by making it harder to have a quorum.

The morphine: I read on these threads that Terri is being given morphine, unlike the last time. I didn't hear the last time they removed the feeding tube that morphine was being administered to Terri to "relieve the pain." So, why the morphine? May it be, in fact, that the morphine will hasten Terri's death?

What other ploys are the Satanic Trio using to make sure Terri is dead before any legislation is passed? If the above is true, then the Trio is intent on making sure that no one will intervene in time to save her.

Praying for our Terri.


37 posted on 03/20/2005 2:25:19 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: justshe

I'm a lawyer and my first thought was that it was a bill of attainder. However, I lookd up the history and a key element is missing. A bill of attainder seeks to punish a single person without trial. Here there is no punishment therefore it should pass constitutional muster. Some examples of bills for single persons. Chrysler Bail out, Bills making individuals citizens, Gold Medals for Schwartzkopf at end of Gulf War.


38 posted on 03/20/2005 2:26:47 PM PST by tort_feasor (FreeRepublic.com - Tommorrow's News, Today)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer
There is objective truth in the universe, even though most of the mainstream media wouldn't know what a honest fact was if it hit them in the face.

Very true; and Delay knows the truth, and made it very clear, VERY CLEAR, in the press conference. Something the media WILL NOT tell!

39 posted on 03/20/2005 2:27:09 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Awestruck

Jeb is in his second term. He is out after this term


40 posted on 03/20/2005 2:28:06 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust and admire Rush. He has done more for this country than he will ever know. God bless him.)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

Amen.


41 posted on 03/20/2005 2:29:18 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust and admire Rush. He has done more for this country than he will ever know. God bless him.)
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To: tort_feasor; justshe

Also today, a Senator spoke in reference to that type of scenario. He said they are duty-bound to make laws that have to deal with people and the Constitution and how it affects us, individually. He then gave an example of another bill, in the works, that has to do with 2 reporters, in jail, because there's no federal protection as regards to their charges.....2 people they are making a bill for.

The senator who spoke is a lawyer; I can't remember his name. But he was very clear in explaining the Legislation's DUTY. He said, also, if they are "not allowed" to make laws, as concerns the citizenry, then their jobs are no job, "they might as well go home."


42 posted on 03/20/2005 2:30:13 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: FoxPro

My God...my head hurts and my stomach aches.


43 posted on 03/20/2005 2:30:30 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust and admire Rush. He has done more for this country than he will ever know. God bless him.)
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To: nicmarlo

I noticed this morning, during the 10am segment, that the woman host shouted down a pro-Schiavo guest with lies about the money Mike Schiavo got having benn spent on her care, when I understand that most of it has gone on lawyers, and the taxpayers are paying for Terri's care.


44 posted on 03/20/2005 2:30:52 PM PST by expatpat
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so he has no more impetus to step in with force than his brother does...great.. because obviously saving a human life isn't enough of a motive..

please people don't revere someone just because they have an (R) after their names! Remember, Greer is a Republican and supposed christian too...

just because something is legal, doesn't make it right. If you see someone being murdered then you step in physically.


45 posted on 03/20/2005 2:31:19 PM PST by Awestruck (Let Terri Live!)
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To: Awestruck

because obviously saving a human life isn't enough of a motive..



What an absurd statement.


46 posted on 03/20/2005 2:32:31 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust and admire Rush. He has done more for this country than he will ever know. God bless him.)
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To: mjtobias

morphine is SOP in dehydration cases...Cheryl Ford says it was part of the drug protocol the last time...I don't know how much they used, but it's used liberally in hospices to help ease dying people...


47 posted on 03/20/2005 2:33:13 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: CDHart

Waco was an bouse of power -- but not the same kind as your professor was suggesting. BATF agents had been shot and killed, so the Feds had full standing.


48 posted on 03/20/2005 2:34:12 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Prince Caspian

I guess cause I am scared that with this fever means infection and unless she is given antibiotics, which she won't, than she will die. Her husband is an animal who will not allow anything but pain meds given to Terri! As long as he is in control Terri will eventually die. I think what the bill passing in the senate and likely the house late tonight will mean Terri gets her feeding tube back, but is it to late because of the fever? I hope and pray I'm wrong! God I hope I'm wrong!


49 posted on 03/20/2005 2:34:13 PM PST by Halls
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To: expatpat

They are spreading, as gospel truth, all the lies promulgated by Michael Schaivo, George Felos, and George Greer....those whose credibility and motives are in question....those same folks who have criminal allegations made against each one of them, as pertains to Terri, and other matters, i.e., Medicare Fraud, Election Fraud, breaking Florida laws as pertains to the roles/duties of a Guardian, and more.


50 posted on 03/20/2005 2:35:13 PM PST by nicmarlo
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