Skip to comments.Senate in Session Sunday 4:30 PM (Senate Passes Schiavo Law)
Posted on 03/20/2005 1:34:36 PM PST by FoxPro
The SEnate has Passed the Terri Shiavo LAW.
The SEnate has Passed the Terri Shiavo LAW.
Why do i feel it is to late?
Not too late.
I give up. Why?
Can someone summarize where we are right now?
To save a ife.
And what is word on Terry?
life = ife *sigh*
They unanimously voted to have Terri's feeding tube reinserted !! Not sure of the exact timing but shortly.
It is not a law yet. It is a bill until the president signs it.
I've got it on good faith that the President will sign it into law.
Is this signed by both House and Senate ? Why is Senate meeting at midnight? I Am confused.
Did anyone see James Moran(sic) and Barney Frank today?
Pontificating on the "SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE BETWEEN ONE MAN AND TWO WOMEN"
We are doomed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
house blocks senate by inaction
The debate later will be about which version to except, senate or congress.
Actually, the law does not call for the reinsertion of Terri's feeding tube - it calls for a Federal judicial review of her case to see if any violation of her due process rights have been violated, and the law assumes the judge will reinsert the tube as she has to be alive for the case to be reviewed. It also will be in the same court in Florida, but will be handled by a Federal judge in that court. At least that is how I am understanding this law, but I could be mistaken.
The Senate passed the bill by unanimous voice vote. The House has not passed the bill since a few democrats opposed it earlier today. The House is reconvening at midnight tonight, and if they have a quorum of 218, they will be able to pass it and send it to the President.
But this bill only gives standing to Terri's parents in Federal Court. Federal judges will need to review the case and overturn or stay the FLA court judge's order. Her parent's lawyer has teed up the Federal court to be ready to act as soon as the bill is signed. At least that's my understanding.
Should be the bill - not law yet.
No doubt here either. I was just trying to keep our vocabulary straight.
(Semper911 <--- Self-appointed director of the FR Vocab Police)
My understanding is that the "law" only allows the case to be heard/reviewed by a Federal Judge. This is not a slam dunk by any means, is it? I, personally, would think there are a number of federal judges that could rule just like Greer.
Praying, that if it be God's will, that there will be a federal judge who will order the tube to be reinserted pending review. But......and I emphasize this.....IF IT IS GOD'S will.
Does anyone know which district this might be presented in? Florida, D.C.? Other?
The SEnate has Passed the Terri Shiavo
Excellent. Now President Bush needs to SIGN it into law.
Does anyone know if Jeb will be up for re-election ?
DELAY ON NOWWWWWWWW
CNN HAS DELAY ON.................
Wow. Now there's a shocker. /sarcasm.
I rest my case.
Fox News reported earlier that the minute this is signed into law, that it will face a judicial challenge as the bill has been written too narrowly, and as such, falls under the "Bill of Attainder" restrictions. Hence the law will be ruled unconstituitional.
Are there any atty's on the thread that can enlighten me as to this thinking?
CNN HAS DELAY ON......
Thanks. I couldn't find it on FOX or See Spam
I won't watch FOX anymore as pertains to Terri. They are INTENTIONALLY spreading DISINFORMATION CONCERNING TERRI. They responded by snotty e-mail to corrections by FReepers about Terri's condition; they are taking as "truth" Greer's 'truth' about Terri.
They are NOT reporting NEWS about Terri. They are reporting LIES.
Bombard the dems in the house with email, let them know we will not stand for this not passing and all their speeches tonight and their posturing is just that...
It IS going to pass so STOP showing off...I', off to email many of "My" dims in Illinois
Do any of you get the impression, like I do, that the date and time of the removal of the feeding tube was all pre-planned so as to hasten Terri's death?
The timing: from what I've read, Terri is being fed thrice a day via the tube. I'm assuming here breakfast, lunch and dinner. if we can call them such. The date and time for the removal was planned for Friday, March 18 at 1:00 pm. My question: was Terri fed before the removal at 1:00 pm? If not, then the removal became effective from the time the tube was removed in the morning after the first feeding. This would have hastened Terri' death.
The day: Friday, the 18th, Palm Sunday. Seems to me that this date was chosen as it was believed our "esteemed" politicians would leave The Capitol and go to their families for the weekend. This date, too, was an attempt by the satanic trio (Greer, Felon and Michael) to hamper legislative intervention by making it harder to have a quorum.
The morphine: I read on these threads that Terri is being given morphine, unlike the last time. I didn't hear the last time they removed the feeding tube that morphine was being administered to Terri to "relieve the pain." So, why the morphine? May it be, in fact, that the morphine will hasten Terri's death?
What other ploys are the Satanic Trio using to make sure Terri is dead before any legislation is passed? If the above is true, then the Trio is intent on making sure that no one will intervene in time to save her.
Praying for our Terri.
I'm a lawyer and my first thought was that it was a bill of attainder. However, I lookd up the history and a key element is missing. A bill of attainder seeks to punish a single person without trial. Here there is no punishment therefore it should pass constitutional muster. Some examples of bills for single persons. Chrysler Bail out, Bills making individuals citizens, Gold Medals for Schwartzkopf at end of Gulf War.
Very true; and Delay knows the truth, and made it very clear, VERY CLEAR, in the press conference. Something the media WILL NOT tell!
Jeb is in his second term. He is out after this term
Also today, a Senator spoke in reference to that type of scenario. He said they are duty-bound to make laws that have to deal with people and the Constitution and how it affects us, individually. He then gave an example of another bill, in the works, that has to do with 2 reporters, in jail, because there's no federal protection as regards to their charges.....2 people they are making a bill for.
The senator who spoke is a lawyer; I can't remember his name. But he was very clear in explaining the Legislation's DUTY. He said, also, if they are "not allowed" to make laws, as concerns the citizenry, then their jobs are no job, "they might as well go home."
My God...my head hurts and my stomach aches.
I noticed this morning, during the 10am segment, that the woman host shouted down a pro-Schiavo guest with lies about the money Mike Schiavo got having benn spent on her care, when I understand that most of it has gone on lawyers, and the taxpayers are paying for Terri's care.
so he has no more impetus to step in with force than his brother does...great.. because obviously saving a human life isn't enough of a motive..
please people don't revere someone just because they have an (R) after their names! Remember, Greer is a Republican and supposed christian too...
just because something is legal, doesn't make it right. If you see someone being murdered then you step in physically.
because obviously saving a human life isn't enough of a motive..
What an absurd statement.
morphine is SOP in dehydration cases...Cheryl Ford says it was part of the drug protocol the last time...I don't know how much they used, but it's used liberally in hospices to help ease dying people...
Waco was an bouse of power -- but not the same kind as your professor was suggesting. BATF agents had been shot and killed, so the Feds had full standing.
I guess cause I am scared that with this fever means infection and unless she is given antibiotics, which she won't, than she will die. Her husband is an animal who will not allow anything but pain meds given to Terri! As long as he is in control Terri will eventually die. I think what the bill passing in the senate and likely the house late tonight will mean Terri gets her feeding tube back, but is it to late because of the fever? I hope and pray I'm wrong! God I hope I'm wrong!
They are spreading, as gospel truth, all the lies promulgated by Michael Schaivo, George Felos, and George Greer....those whose credibility and motives are in question....those same folks who have criminal allegations made against each one of them, as pertains to Terri, and other matters, i.e., Medicare Fraud, Election Fraud, breaking Florida laws as pertains to the roles/duties of a Guardian, and more.