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Let's not forget: Terri is being executed by authority of Jeb Bush
RenewAmerica.US ^ | March 22, 2005 | RenewAmerica Staff

Posted on 03/23/2005 5:04:24 AM PST by Maurice Tift

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To: Maurice Tift
"The truth is, only the governor--who oversees all agencies of executive power in the state--can in fact put Terri to death."

This is so wrong it's ludicrous. Governors can't sentence people to death, only courts can do that, and that isn't what they are doing in this case anyway. Is the guy that wrote this smoking something?

I wish Terry could live, but this is ridiculous.
101 posted on 03/23/2005 6:27:28 AM PST by monday
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To: JFC

CALL JEB BUSH AND ASK HIM TO USE HIS EXECUTIVE POWERS AND TAKE CUSTODY OF TERRI. HIS NUMBER IS 850-488-4441


102 posted on 03/23/2005 6:28:24 AM PST by chickenteeth
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To: wiley
Right. And Gov. Bush is enforcing the judgment of the judiciary. He has no legal power to do anything else.
103 posted on 03/23/2005 6:30:37 AM PST by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: Melas

Thank you for the points. They make an excellent basis to deliberate on a promise to pardon, especially since I'm no lawyer.

"A promise of a pardon before hand would be tantamount to conspiracy."

A conspiracy for life. Impeachment over that kind of conspiracy would be asking for major self-inflicted pain by the left. What about the crack dealer pardon for cash? That wasn't a conspiracy?

"It would be ill advised."

Sadly, considering she's this bad off by the time the court option was finished, there is no telling what her brain activity is now. So I agree that it would be running a risk. But we have several witnesses no longer gagged to back up that she did, in fact, have brain activity.

"It would not only in all likelihood invalidate the pardon, but would have legal repercussions for the governor as well."

Oh man. I appreciate your advice, but if Clinton's pardon of a crack dealer for cash was never reversed, anyone trying to 'invalidate' this pardon would be in for serious pain.


104 posted on 03/23/2005 6:32:08 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: SteveMcKing
Whatever, dude. I am not for a chief law enforcement officer breaking the law. He's not a Bill Clinton.
105 posted on 03/23/2005 6:32:24 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Maurice Tift

I'm all for saving Terri, but you're full of it. We don't live in a country where a governor or President can just order things to happen, that's called a "dictatorship."


106 posted on 03/23/2005 6:32:28 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Maurice Tift
The life of Terri Schiavo is solely in the hands of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.

Not quite. The Schindlers have orchestrated a losing fight. They choose cheap theatrics over reason. Had they accepted Terri's life for what it is and held it as being of value, the courts may have and people like me would have supported them to the hilt. Phony diagnosis and self-serving doctors only cheapened her cause caused resentment.

107 posted on 03/23/2005 6:32:51 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: wolfpat
He has no legal power to do anything else.

Which is why we are advocating he break the law. It's not such a bad thing in this case, in fact, it's the only right thing to do.

108 posted on 03/23/2005 6:32:51 AM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: SoFloFreeper

Clinton was trying to save his shame for sex. We're trying to save a dying woman.


109 posted on 03/23/2005 6:33:56 AM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: wolfpat
Terri is being tortured and killed by directive of,now a Federal Judge, apointed by elected official of the United States who were placed in office by the American People. In other words, Terri is being tortured and murdered in the name of the American People.

Why are there not a million people in the street?

110 posted on 03/23/2005 6:34:59 AM PST by Texas Songwriter (.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

I am not blaming Bush but saying he has done everything to help Terri is simply not true.


111 posted on 03/23/2005 6:35:46 AM PST by raybbr
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To: shhrubbery!
I think there's a totally legitimate step Jeb Bush can take to at least temporarily take custody of Terri away from Michael Schiavo. There have been many, many allegations of abuse of Terri by Terri's nurses and other caregivers, and by her family. Judge Greer last week flat-out refused to stay the removal of the tube pending an investigation of those allegations by DCF. Now today, DCF is going back into Greer's court to "request" Terri's medical records --which Greer has kept sealed at Michael Schiavo's request-- so as to investigate those allegations.

I agree with your post, and disagree with the others who have jumped all over the initiator of this thread.

Jeb can take action here, through the executive branch, which includes state prosecutors who may find reason to investigate Michael Shiavo's activities on criminal or administrative law grounds.

112 posted on 03/23/2005 6:35:57 AM PST by WL-law
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To: SteveMcKing

The law is the law. I detest it...and it is wrong, but the Executive branch's job is to enforce the law, not break the law.


113 posted on 03/23/2005 6:36:30 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: monday
FLASH! The Reverend Bob Mahoney ( who doesn't look or sound like he's Irish)...a Schindler family spokesperson just said on the news conference outside the Hospice where Terri Schiavo is has just blamed the Republican majority in Florida for Terri's situation.

He has called on Justice Kennedy to ride in on his horse and save her.

Disgusting..to see them politicize this.

115 posted on 03/23/2005 6:38:08 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Maurice Tift
It's time.

It's time that you settle down and do something more constructive than to blame our Governor, who has done plenty to intervene in Terri's case. Your armchair baseless criticism does not effect any positive actions.

116 posted on 03/23/2005 6:41:02 AM PST by NautiNurse (May the road rise up to meet you; May the wind always be at your back)
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To: DCPatriot
Terri Schiavo the person died 15 years ago.
Did she? I don't know because I keep hearing/seeing/reading conflicting reports about her condition. If she really has no brain function left, then I have no problem with disconnecting her feeding tubes. But some reports have her trying to talk. Is this correct?
I don't think we'd be having this discussion if the MSM and the Florida courts hadn't thrown away all credibility years ago. We don't know who to listen to.
117 posted on 03/23/2005 6:41:43 AM PST by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: ontos-on
Sir, please put aside your jargon for a moment and tell us what law Jeb Bush would be executing if he did what you suggest. How do you indeed conceive the role of the executive? Is it able to do whatever he wants, without check by law? Is not the governor required to act "under law"? Or do you mean something else?

The police, the state prosecutors, the regulatory agancies -- they are all EXECUTIVE BRANCH functions under the control of Jeb Bush. So -- if there is a credible basis to investigate whether Michael Shiavo has a material conflict of interest -- the legislative branch can investigate. If the nurse who provided an affidavit stating that Shiavo was trying to kill Terri through insulin injections is credible (she's been all over the TV making her charges) then the state prosecutors can investigate.

If the court won't order the preservation of life through that process, then the executive branch can take action to preserve the evidence.

The founding fathers believed that there was a danger in an unelected and lifetime-appointed judiciary, but one mitigating fact was that they had no real authority to enforce -- they had to rely on the executive -- so their power was in effect limited. But now it is time for the executive to take emergency steps and thereby demonstrate the limit of juducical power.

118 posted on 03/23/2005 6:43:18 AM PST by WL-law
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

It's not the pardon that's so legally offensive. It's the promise of a pardon beforehand. If a pardon were given to someone who aided her after the fact, that would be a different story.


119 posted on 03/23/2005 6:44:50 AM PST by Melas
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To: Rebelbase
There's more who else to blame?

Well, they tried to point the finger at me - but I told them "Hey - what about Rebelbase?"

120 posted on 03/23/2005 6:47:25 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob (This tagline is Bush's fault.)
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