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Picture of the children arresting for trying to bring Terry [Schiavo] water (God Bless Them!)
US News ^ | 3/23/05

Posted on 03/23/2005 12:00:12 PM PST by areafiftyone


Pinellas Park police Lt. Kevin Riley, standing upper right, prepares to arrest members of the Keys family as they were attempting to bring Terri Schiavo water Wednesday morning, March 23, 2005 outside the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla. The Keys family, of Burnet, Tex., kneeling, from left, Josie, 14, Gabriel, 10, Chris, the children's father, and Cameron 12, were all taken into custody. Galen Keys, upper left, the children's mother looks on, but was not arrested.The mother insists it was the children's idea: "I am proud of them," said the boys' mother Geilen Keys from Texas, who was not arrested. "They are very mature and they said 'we want to go and offer some water to Terri'."


Pinellas Park police Lt. Kevin Riley, second from left, handcuffs 14-year-old Josie Keys, left, while Pinellas County Sheriff's deputies place her father Chris in the back of a van after arresting members of the family for trespassing Wednesday morning March 23, 2005 outside the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla. The family members were attempting to bring Terri Schiavo a cup of water.


Gabriel Keys (foreground) is arrested by police officers for trespassing in Pinellas Park, Florida, March 23, 2005. The young protester attempted to take a glass of water into the Woodside Hospice for the brain-damaged Terri Schiavo. A federal judge rejected a request from the parents of Schiavo to order her feeding tube reinserted, dealing a blow to attempts by the U.S. Congress and the White House to prolong her life.


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To: The Grim Freeper

Ha, I hear you on this subject. My girls all have a 'younger than they are' look to them and my 19 year old is always being told she doesn't even look 15. It drives her nuts and she wishes she looked older, but I know it is because of their innocence and kind-heartedness. It just radiates to the outside.

My 17 year old looks his age, I think, but he is known in our little town as one of the most respectful boys around.

God bless those children and their parents. I have been moved to tears...again.


301 posted on 03/23/2005 1:56:25 PM PST by MTMS
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To: little jeremiah

Cops could've called in sick today. They knew what they were going to have to do...arrest people trying to bring water to Terri.

What a distasteful duty!


302 posted on 03/23/2005 1:56:31 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Long Cut

your right they are "just doing there jobs"
just like the nazis did.
oh look how well they do it too.
A little kid can stand up for what is right, but not these officers, they are just doing there job.
sleep well.


303 posted on 03/23/2005 1:57:11 PM PST by zboa
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To: TexKat
"So why are they not at home being schooled or is this spring break?"

Why do people keep asking that? These kids are getting an education in this event. They are taking a moral stand and are suffering for it. God bless them. By the way, where I live, the public schooled kids start at 9:00am and get out at 2:15pm. My home schooled daughter starts at 7:30am and finishes at about 5:30 or 6:00pm, with two half-hour breaks. My daughter got to go to China with her grandparents during a school week. It was educational. These forays are one of the perks of home schooling.

304 posted on 03/23/2005 1:57:32 PM PST by The Grim Freeper
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To: Blzbba

These kids in these cuffs are very mature.


305 posted on 03/23/2005 1:59:15 PM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: Junior

The charges will be dropped at a later date. No police record for these kids.

You don't know how it works.

Been there, done that, in the front lines against abortion.

Brave and thoughtful children...God bless them.


306 posted on 03/23/2005 1:59:20 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: tatsmom

Same here. I've run the scenario through my head many times mostly involving Abortion Mill protesters


307 posted on 03/23/2005 2:00:32 PM PST by Horatio Gates (Those Who Live By The Sword May Be Shot By Those Who Don't)
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To: 506trooper

Maybe regulations don't require them to handcuff everyone arrested but they knew how bad the pictures would look and this is the cops' way of protesting, by making things look as bad as possible.
Imagine dedicating yourself to public safety and being used this way.
It's surprising blue flu hasn't hit the whole department.


308 posted on 03/23/2005 2:00:39 PM PST by jjmcgo
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To: zboa
Get this straight, Pal, those kids are being arrested because their parents put them up to it for a cheapo publicity stunt. The cops are doing their jobs, moreover, they are getting the kids to safety. They know that trouble is probably not far away, given all the insane rants the zealots have oinked out.

Those kids were USED, and for cheap propaganda. So take your oh-so-often-used-it's-boring Nazi crap and chew on it.

309 posted on 03/23/2005 2:00:55 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: philman_36

>Will Mr. Schiavo be arrested for committing a misdemeanor of the second degree, that being living in open adultery, when he shows up? <

Hmmm. There's something called a "mandamas" (or however it's spelled). It has to do with bringing action to force the government to carry out the law of the land.

Pity, if it was used against Michael and squeeze...


310 posted on 03/23/2005 2:01:12 PM PST by Darnright (No matter how sick a person is, he is and will always be a man, never becoming a vegetable or animal)
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To: areafiftyone

Don't feel sorry for the kids, be outraged their parents are using them as pawns in this travesty!


311 posted on 03/23/2005 2:01:43 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: pgkdan
And you have absolutely no idea how low you now are.

The world's superpower and most vocal nation on support for human rights around the world is starving and dehydrating a disabled woman to death and children are being arrested for bringing her water.

The shame of it all

Don't ever think to lecture ANYONE in the world on human rights. Not China, Not Saudi Arabia, Not India, Not anyone.

So what if Indonesia has 6 year olds sewing soccer balls, at least they don't starve and dehydrate to death disabled people.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

312 posted on 03/23/2005 2:01:48 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Palladin
Cops could've called in sick today. They knew what they were going to have to do...arrest people trying to bring water to Terri. What a distasteful duty!

They chose. All have chosen.
Terri Shiavo's denial of treatment for years
and her denial of water and food now
have taken every American to the wall.
Like slavery, there will be two sides. This is highly polarizing - and all will choose.

313 posted on 03/23/2005 2:01:50 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Long Cut

no, i have no doubt. i'm just flabbergasted by the over-zealousness of some people. i hope no one starts shooting at judges and hospice doctors over this.


314 posted on 03/23/2005 2:02:22 PM PST by d-informed-1
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To: daylate-dollarshort; All

Some of the schools in Texas are on Spring Break this week.

Plus I have a hunch these kids are home schooled. WHich means they were working on their lesson plans on the trip from Texas to Florida.


315 posted on 03/23/2005 2:03:12 PM PST by txradioguy (Freedom Of Speech Makes It Much Easier To Spot The Idiots)
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To: Wallace T.
"If those police officers and sheriff's deputies had even a shred of decency in their character, they should turn in their badges and guns rather than be the guardians of the Terri Schiavo death chamber.

Most police officers swear an oath like this or very similar to this.

"I,__________, do solemnly swear, that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of _______ against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance, to the Constitution of the State Of _______; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties, of the office of Police Officer of the City of ______, acting to the best of my ability."

Nowhere does it state "except for laws I don't believe in, or if I feel like it."

Could I have handcuffed those kids? No.

But a LEO isn't supposed to choose (hypothetically) which law to enforce nor do they get to pick where their post is. Unfortunately, it is rule of law that put them there. It is not their choice as to what the law is.

Don't blame them, blame the people who made the law....better yet, blame the people who elected/appointed/confirmed the lawmakers/interpretors.

316 posted on 03/23/2005 2:03:18 PM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: Long Cut
The only thing I see that's "cheap" around here are the cheap shots you and some others are taking. These are courageous people of principle--something, by the way, many here seem to lack.
317 posted on 03/23/2005 2:03:28 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Tired of Taxes
Consider it an educational field trip, that teaches far more than a day working in workbooks and listening to teachers.

Amazing, isn't it? The mindset of some these days.

(Hanging head in shame.)

318 posted on 03/23/2005 2:04:44 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: Diogenesis
Highly polarizing? What an understatement.

Starving and dehydrating to death a disabled person???!!!

And you have absolutely no idea how low you now are.

The world's superpower and most vocal nation and champion on support for human rights around the world is starving and dehydrating a disabled woman to death and children are being arrested for bringing her water.

The shame of it all

Don't ever think to lecture ANYONE in the world on human rights. Not China, Not Saudi Arabia, Not India, Not anyone.

So what if Indonesia has 6 year olds sewing soccer balls, at least they don't starve and dehydrate to death disabled people.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

319 posted on 03/23/2005 2:04:58 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: MikeHu

Very good analysis.


320 posted on 03/23/2005 2:05:09 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: jjmcgo
"Maybe regulations don't require them to handcuff everyone arrested but they knew how bad the pictures would look and this is the cops' way of protesting, by making things look as bad as possible. Imagine dedicating yourself to public safety and being used this way. "

Hadn't thought of that......hmmmm...

321 posted on 03/23/2005 2:05:40 PM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: TexasCajun

"Don't feel sorry for the kids, be outraged their parents are using them as pawns in this travesty!"

Or possibly giving them an abstract lesson in humanity and compassion.


322 posted on 03/23/2005 2:05:41 PM PST by txradioguy (Freedom Of Speech Makes It Much Easier To Spot The Idiots)
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To: Long Cut

you get this straight, i'm not your pal.
and they sure are protecting these kids by putting them in cuffs. I was wondering who the (queer for cops) posters where, now i know. You have played your hand, and we know that you would take the cops side no matter what, so I am getting weary of you supposed logic here.


323 posted on 03/23/2005 2:05:41 PM PST by zboa
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To: Diogenesis

"I lay before you life and death...Choose LIFE!"


324 posted on 03/23/2005 2:05:55 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: areafiftyone

Wonderful. Children getting arrested for trying to bring water to a starving handicapped person in the land of liberal death.


325 posted on 03/23/2005 2:06:18 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: TexasCajun
"be outraged their parents are using them as pawns in this travesty!"

Oh, I am. I now have no doubts whatsoever in the position I have on this issue. Those on the side that uses children in this fashion are morally bankrupt. I can give them NO credibility.

326 posted on 03/23/2005 2:06:35 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: daylate-dollarshort
The government of Florida(with the possible exception of Governor Jeb Bush, who can still do the right thing) and the government of Pinellas Park have all of the moral authority of the Mafia or the Ku Klux Klan. They may have the guns, the handcuffs, and the keys to the jailhouse, but that is all. They have ceased being "the minister of God for thee for good," to quote Romans 13, and are now minions of Satan.
327 posted on 03/23/2005 2:07:13 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Blzbba

Spring Break?????


328 posted on 03/23/2005 2:07:22 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Your two pics give good insight to what liberals do.


329 posted on 03/23/2005 2:07:31 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: TexasCajun

"Don't feel sorry for the kids, be outraged their parents are using them as pawns in this travesty!"


Agreed. It amazes me how differently many Freepers react when kids are used for liberal purposes, like anti-war marches and protests. Why is the reaction so different here?

Hypocrisy alert!!


330 posted on 03/23/2005 2:07:37 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: johnb838
Can't really say this is the beginning of killing the disabled and elderly -- but it is the beginning of taking a stand against it.

Sad, but true. I guess we would have to say it is the beginning of doing it with most Americans (and the world) being aware of it.

331 posted on 03/23/2005 2:07:40 PM PST by djreece (May God grant us wisdom.)
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To: areafiftyone
Helter Skelter!

Conservatives are judicial shopping. Seeking an Executire Order from the President of the United States on the matter that has been heard before some type of judge more than 40 times in 7 years.

Conservatives are placing their minor children on the front line of the controversy.

Who does that remind you of?

332 posted on 03/23/2005 2:07:41 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: zboa

So don't post to me again.


333 posted on 03/23/2005 2:07:53 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: Long Cut

"Those kids were USED, and for cheap propaganda."


I'm glad someone else here sticks to their principles of not wanting to exploit kids for political purposes.

Imagine the outrage if these kids were protesting the Iraq War or Bush. There'd be no adulation of them then.


334 posted on 03/23/2005 2:09:49 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: expatguy
#319

Huh?

I am totally for giving her food, water, comfort, and care
and am certain within reasonable doubt that she has not been given good medical care.
Not sure where you are coming from in your (hot) statement.

335 posted on 03/23/2005 2:10:25 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Long Cut; PhiKapMom

Agreed.


336 posted on 03/23/2005 2:10:45 PM PST by hchutch ("But, Rally, they're SMOKE GRENADES.")
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To: MizSterious
"These are courageous people of principle..."

They are lunatics who have placed their own children in a possible line-of-fire and got them arrested so they can have some propaganda. If that's your idea of "courage", you must have lots of heroes in the West Bank.

337 posted on 03/23/2005 2:11:15 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: Long Cut

"Those on the side that uses children in this fashion are morally bankrupt. I can give them NO credibility."

No faith in our youth these days?

Why does everyone automatically ASSUME that these kids are pawns?

Anyone ever stop to think that whatever they've been taught in church and brought up to believe in by their parents inspired them to ask to do this on their own?

THose skeptics out there have obviously have never seen a group of boyscouts at work...you'd be surprised what a group of teenagers can come up with to do on their own if they're raised and taught right.


338 posted on 03/23/2005 2:11:28 PM PST by txradioguy (Freedom Of Speech Makes It Much Easier To Spot The Idiots)
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To: TexasCajun

"Who does that remind you of?"


Hell, I'll say it: LIBERALS.


339 posted on 03/23/2005 2:11:29 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Campion

Junior:
"Letting a child "follow his conscience" can lead to kids getting into all sorts of trouble -- because kids do not have a well-developed conscience until they are much older."

Campion:
"What, like 50? Get real. You mean they haven't learned to practice moral cowardice yet."

As much as I think the children have done a wonderful thing, I have to agree that they are not capable of mature reasoning since none of them look like they're even teenagers yet. Until they reach the age of at least 15, children are not capable of reasoning as an adult. This is why they need guardians until they are 18 and are treated different when committing crimes. Jean Piaget, who was not a psychologist, but a developmental biologist who formulated childhood delvelopmental stages related to major developments in brain growth. The human brain is not fully developed until late adolescence or in the case of males sometimes early adulthood. We often expect children to think like adults when they are not yet capable of doing so. The gradual internalization of rules and maturing conscience for decision-making takes place in one of the last developmental stages.

Therefore, I think that even if it was the children's idea to bring Terri the water, the seed was planted by someone else. I'm sure the kids don't understand the entire situation, which is even more sad that they got arrested for a kind act. It's just too bad it didn't work! Someone needs to give Terri some nourishment and soon.


340 posted on 03/23/2005 2:11:37 PM PST by Serenissima Venezia (An engineer turning teacher (unless I come back to my senses!))
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To: txradioguy
Why does everyone automatically ASSUME that these kids are pawns?

Because they are minor children, well below the age of consent.

341 posted on 03/23/2005 2:12:29 PM PST by Poohbah (If it's called "collateral damage," how come I can't use it to secure a loan?)
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To: Bob J

"I don't think they should have used the kids"

The kids just got a lesson they can't learn in school singing the nation anthem. Putting panties on terrorist heads to get information about future attacks – NOT OK. Starving a disabled woman to death for money – OK. Isn’t America great kids? Going to jail will open their innocent eyes. Waco, Ruby ridge, Elian Gonzalez, Terri …


342 posted on 03/23/2005 2:12:33 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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To: Long Cut

I'm not sure how trying to save an innocent woman's life equates to suicide bombers who try to take innocent lives. Perhaps you neglected your meds this morning?


343 posted on 03/23/2005 2:12:50 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Dead Dog

I don't doubt that. But if he's sickened by this, if he knows what's right, his obligation is to God, not the state.

It's that old saying about evil and what happens when good men do nothing.


344 posted on 03/23/2005 2:12:54 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (when she dies, America dies.)
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To: Darnright

Just trying to offer some suggestions that might be worthwhile to follow...


345 posted on 03/23/2005 2:13:13 PM PST by philman_36
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To: txradioguy

"Anyone ever stop to think that whatever they've been taught in church and brought up to believe in by their parents inspired them to ask to do this on their own? "



Please remember this the next time you see a group of liberals with their kids holding anti-Bush signs at an anti-Iraq War rally. Remember that they may have been taught in church that killing people is wrong and their parents brought them up to believe this.


346 posted on 03/23/2005 2:13:13 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba

The same people deriding these paretns were the ones speaking admiration of the little girl who was standing at a political rally back in September who had her Bush/CHeney sign ripped to shreds.

No comment back then that her dad might be exploiting her for political purposes...


347 posted on 03/23/2005 2:13:42 PM PST by txradioguy (Freedom Of Speech Makes It Much Easier To Spot The Idiots)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

348 posted on 03/23/2005 2:13:46 PM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: Serenissima Venezia

Even the secular psychologists agree that a child's conscience is formed by age 12.

These wonderful children comprehend more about this moral issue than 50% of those posting on FR today.


349 posted on 03/23/2005 2:14:00 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Destro

She can swallow Destro. They didn't have any tubes in her mouth to suck out the saliva.


350 posted on 03/23/2005 2:14:24 PM PST by McGavin999
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