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Microsoft advises against iPod shuffle?
Macnn.com ^ | 03/23/2005 | Macnn.com

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:23:58 PM PST by r5boston

Microsoft's "PlayForSure" has published "six tips for buying an MP3 player with flash memory." The checklist, which offers advice that appears to be geared against iPod's shuffle, advises users to "make sure you're getting all the goodies" -- voice recording, FM recording, and a stopwatch. The report also says "you'll want a display ... this is critical if you want to find that one song or artist you really want to hear." The list emphasizes FM radio: "let a professional make your next playlist ... having an FM radio lets you put your player on autopilot." On the topic of music purchasing, PlayForSure says "don't get locked into one online store ...Having the flexibility to choose from over 1 million tracks of music from multiple online music stores such as MSN Music, Napster, MusicMatch, and Wal-Mart can be the key to getting the music you want."


TOPICS: Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; ipod; lowqualitycrap; microsoft; mp3; shuffle
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1 posted on 03/23/2005 2:23:59 PM PST by r5boston
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To: r5boston

Actually, Microsoft is just advising against crappy flash players. The Shuffle is all marketing, no product. Nothing against Apple - the iPods are great - but the Shuffle is a total technological waste.


2 posted on 03/23/2005 2:26:29 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: r5boston

Microsoft probably advises against Firefox as a browser too. Pope is Catholic. Bear defecates in the woods. No surprises here.


3 posted on 03/23/2005 2:29:04 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: r5boston
Yawn ... seems like valid - and even ethical - criticism of a competing product in a competitive market place.

Lotta people seem to feel that anything from Apple is somehow beyond reproach. While its computers may be fine for those who prefer them, its Quick Time player isn't far off behaving like a virus when it comes to its unrelenting aggressiveness - IMHO.
4 posted on 03/23/2005 2:37:53 PM PST by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: r5boston

I know I use the stopwatch feature on my MP3 player at least 10 times a day. What idiots. The reason M$ is doing this is to push their own WMA format. Since the iPod has the lions share of hte market and does NOT support M$'s format they say don't buy it. Simple as that.


5 posted on 03/23/2005 2:40:19 PM PST by SengirV
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To: GMMAC

a virus? Perhaps you need to look into the things other players like Real Audio do. If you think QT is a virus, you'll think RA is the plague.


6 posted on 03/23/2005 2:42:11 PM PST by SengirV
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To: r5boston

As long as they make it clear that the info is coming from Micro$oft and it's an advertisement, have at it! The marketplace will judge what's important to them.

(I am a dedicated Apple cultist, by the way)


7 posted on 03/23/2005 2:43:45 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: r5boston
FM radio would be my reason for buying portable music player, not a feature.
8 posted on 03/23/2005 2:45:31 PM PST by anonymous_user (Not everything's a conspiracy.)
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To: July 4th
the iPods are great - but the Shuffle is a total technological waste.

I'm with you on the shuffle, but I think the iPods are pretty much a waste of cash, too. The only thing it's got going for it is the ClickWheel. The sound is pathetic, the features are sparse. And support? Apple still has yet to determine why the November iTunes update causes a "corrupt file, run chkdsk" error on 4th generation players...

I got myself an iRiver H320. In addition to playing MP3s with sharp audio clarity, I can record my classes @ 128 kps, listen to FM radio, view text files, watch movies and look at pictures on its brilliant color screen. All for the low, low price of $260.
9 posted on 03/23/2005 2:45:39 PM PST by MAEsser (The law is not about fairness, equality, or justice. It is about power.)
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To: Swordmaker

Mac ping?


10 posted on 03/23/2005 2:46:16 PM PST by anonymous_user (Not everything's a conspiracy.)
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To: anonymous_user

Hmm the reason I bought a mp3 player was so I didn't have to listen to FM radio anymore. Too much crap programming and advertisments.


11 posted on 03/23/2005 3:04:57 PM PST by scab4faa (http://www.compfused.com/directlink/703/)
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Hmm the reason I bought a mp3 player was so I didn't have to listen to FM radio anymore.

That's exactly what I meant. If anything drives me to buy a portable music player, it will be disgust with local FM stations.

12 posted on 03/23/2005 3:28:45 PM PST by anonymous_user (Not everything's a conspiracy.)
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To: July 4th

The Shuffle is based on marketing, yes--Apple's market research told them that most people only load a few mp3 files on their player and use the Shuffle feature exclusively. So, they responded to what their market was doing, and they've made thousands of dollars off it.

Now, if you're not a casual user of technology, you're going to hate the Shuffle. But for people who just want something to listen to--which is most of the music player market--the Shuffle is perfect.

I wish people would stop ignorantly bashing the Shuffle. You don't like it, don't buy it, simple as that.


13 posted on 03/23/2005 4:01:37 PM PST by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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To: anonymous_user
Mac ping?

Do you think this warrants one? I try not to ping for trivial things...

14 posted on 03/23/2005 6:40:35 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: r5boston
$99 dollars was pretty cheap for 512Mb of memory when the Shuffle came out, other than that there is nothing to it.
15 posted on 03/23/2005 9:42:19 PM PST by jordan8
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To: Terpfen
But for people who just want something to listen to--which is most of the music player market--the Shuffle is perfect.

Exactly! My wife got me an Ipod shuffle for my birthday last week and there hasn't been a day I haven't used it. I don't care if it has no display. All the songs I have on there are all songs I like so it doesn't matter what order they play in...I like them all. I just want something to play the music I like and it does it well w/o all the bells & whistles.

16 posted on 03/23/2005 9:51:31 PM PST by ironwill (I want my daddy's records.)
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To: July 4th
. The Shuffle is all marketing, no product.

I wouldn't buy one, but it's apparently the "nothing" that is popular among runners. At .78 ounces, you can't even feel it hanging around your neck on a lanyard. And runners aren't about to stop to fiddle with a display -- they just want music while they run with the smallest, lightest product possible.

17 posted on 03/24/2005 7:12:49 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: anonymous_user
FM radio would be my reason for buying portable music player, not a feature.

They've had headphones with FM radios built into them for years.

18 posted on 03/24/2005 7:14:17 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: r5boston
I had an MP3 USB stick player with all the bells and whistles, FM, voice recorder, screen. I never used the extras because the thing stayed in the pocket of my gym shorts at the gym. It was on the heavy side, too, for such a little thing.

I bought a Shuffle since I get a lot of my music from iTunes. It's light weight, works great and my 1 gig player holds a lot more than other sticks. You can set it to shuffle or to play your music in order. I don't need a screen to tell me what song I am listening to.
19 posted on 03/24/2005 7:20:54 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: r5boston

Microsoft advises purchasing Microsoft products. Film at eleven.


20 posted on 03/24/2005 7:22:37 AM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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