Pride or prejudice? Terri's plight...Stop the BS!

Multitudes of postings | 3/26/2005 | self

[syriacus]

However, if she had life insurance that was provided by her employer, then it ended when she was no longer working.

What if her husband kept up the payments?

[4.1O dana super trac pak]

Well said.

[pageonetoo]

You mean, you are tired of having to "think" of someone in a serious manner? dont you?"

[ContraryMary]

Employer-provided life insurance doesn't work that way...

[pageonetoo]

"More like page ZERO."

[farmer18th]

When we have real soldiers going to war (in a real war!) it is shallow to try and make ugly analogies like yours above.

As Bush criticism has gone here, it wasn't particularly ugly. The truth is that George Bush has allowed a state court judge to outright flout the congress by ignoring a federal subpoena. Jeb has allowed a corrupt local police department to face off state troopers and a state agency. Whatever else they may have done that is good, this is not a particularly proud moment for the Bush brothers. Spend a few moments on Freerepublic and you'll see that opinion confirmed.

[annyokie]

Complete sentences are your friend as is spellcheck.

That aside, how and where do you, you not the broad sense of you, but you, find that fine dividing line wherein you (you) can supersede the law to suit your whims or wishes?
Life is tough and laws are strict.

[pageonetoo]

"One can usually sense something like that right away.

[syriacus]

Four posts before the Nazi comment was thrown in. I think that's a record

The record's been broken.

There's now a thread on FreeRepublic, which begins with a column in which the author uses the Nazi word. (And he even uses the Kill word.)

Killing Terri - There was no need to play God.

To do otherwise makes us recall Nazi Germany where retarded people and those with serious disabilities were "euthanized" (that is, killed).

[TheLionessRN]

I feel like I have almost taken on the role of self appointed hall monitor in this case. I have tried to very simply read the facts and educate myself before coming to a conclusion. And have spent more time injecting corrections of misconceptions and stating facts that I have dug up than actually sharing my personal opinion.

I hate to say this, but I guess as a nurse I can talk about people in my own profession. I have met some nurses who are idiots and I can't figure out how they passed their state boards for licensure.
Regarding that statemtent by the RN who was an LPN at the time...If MS was as big a pain in the rear end to the nurses in the facility that TS is being kept, then they HATE him, regardless of the quality of care she is getting from him. I want to take her word for it because I trust most of my fellow nurses until they prove otherwise, but her affadavit was presented to court and did not stand scrutiny. I really don't want to downgrade a fellow nurse, but well, it is old news and I wonder if she wasn't seeking her 15 minutes of fame.

[MoefromMs]

But if Terri was wasting potassium then why did the medical records indicate she had an increase in potassium that caused her to go into cardiac arrest?

[Polybius]

"I most certainly do feel queasy about abortions but the responsibility about abortions lies with the society that has a cultural tolerance for legalizing it and not the medical profession as a whole."

GIve me a break. Just because a procedure is deemed "legal", doesn't mean doctors have to perform it." It's because of profits that they perform it. It has nothing to do with their profession which is TO PRESERVE LIFE. When was the last time you read your hippocratic oath to which you swore to uphold? Or did it turn into the hipocritic oath now?

You are missing the entire point of my exchange with Bill which even Bill himself came to terms with in his Post 496 ;.........."OK OK you are correct, I cant blame all dr's for the misdeeds of some. For that I apologise ".

I do not perform abortions and do not participate in any procedures leading up to abortion so why are you ragging on me and my other medical colleagues that do not perform nor approve of abortion?

You are an American. You are a member of a society that has legalized abortion. Does that make you and every other American personally responsible for abortions?

That is analogous to blaming "veterans" for the assassination of JFK and the Oklahoma City bombing and blaming "Heisman Trophy winners" for the death of Nicole Simpson.

[annyokie]

Good Lord! FR has crossed into DU territory on this topic!

[doug from upland]

I only wanted one thing - to err on the side of life. I am not convinced that all the evidence has been heard. Perhaps it would take another three months. However long, it should be sorted out to make sure. If she truly didn't want to live like that, her wishes should be honored. Yours should be honored. I have a real problem with hearing that a nurse was able to feed her. And I have a real problem with the guardian being someone with another woman and family. He may truly have her best interest at heart, but I'm not sure.

[Ragnorak]

"The person has a judicially appointed guardian representing his or her best interest..."

Does a husband who is living with another woman, and who has fathered children in that relationship, who stands to enjoy substantial financial gains upon his legal wife's death, constitute a guardian who represents his legal wife's best interest?

His legal status as guardian comes from the marriage. I don't condemn him or judge him for moving on; however, I do think that in doing so he has destroyed any ability to be judged in legal terms as "acting in her best interest." His priorities and obligations are to his new family. His right to decide for his wife is legally predicated on his fulfillment of a marital contract under Florida Law. He chose not to fulfill the obligations of that contract so his rights under it ought to be forfeit.

If this isn't a case to question "best interests," the legislature wasted ink writing the phrase.

Judge Greer overstepped his authority in issuing the DCF restraining order and he violated Federal Law protecting Congressional witnesses. Even assuming Congress and DCF shouldn't get involved, Greer certainly didn't follow the provisions of the law on these counts. I don't blame him for the outcome of this case, but these two things are cause for concern and typify a greater problem with the judiciary in general.

This is a sad situation that casts dark shadows no matter how you look at it and there is no happy solution. At the end of the day, I want my government to act with more caution when it decides the death of innocents than it does the deaths of the murderers of innocents. I think they failed in this case.

[redangus]

I agree with you and respect your courage to take on the hysteria that has erupted here on Freeper. I made a similar point in a response yesterday. We should all pray for the souls of those involved in this horrible situation and trust that God's will will be done.

[whatisthetruth]

Oh, I see, because some of us here dont agree with your side we are evil. Oh, well that does it. All I can say is some nerve.

Not necessarily! Like K2blader so aptly put it there is evil and supporters of evil. There is also misguided. Don't know your views on this so it would be hard to discern your true intent. Others have written much concerning this so it's apparent to me they support evil whether knowingly or unknowingly. Either way the results are the same.

Like K2blader I struggle with 'loving' those who support evil. However there's a method to that madness and it's a spiritual love, not a lovey-dovey physical love.

[farmer18th]

Not you again?

If you had gone to bed, like you were told to, Billy, you wouldn't have to debate the smarter kids.

[TheLionessRN]

It was my understanding that it was a lack of potassium, not too much, that caused the heart problems.

For all I know, the potassium in her cells was excreted in an attempt to create balance in her bloodstream, causing it to be too low in her cardiac muscle, thereby playing havoc with the sodium/potassium exchange required for the heart to work properly. But that is just speculation on my part and not a statement of fact, so don't quote me on that one.

[syriacus]

Carla Iyer's statements were found not credible.

Even more pertinent to this case....Judge Greer said a statement by Terri's childhood friend, that Terri would want to live, was not credible.

Of course, later, Greer had to admit he made a mistake in the date he used as a justification to discard her statement. But he said it didn't matter anyway. (IOW, he had made up his mind).

Greer decided to rely on the statements of Michael's brother and sister-in-law.

Stonewalling helped Nixon only for a while.