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"Super volcano" could dwarf Indonesia's earthquake catastrophes: expert
Yahoo News ^ | 4/1/05 | AFP

Posted on 04/01/2005 3:01:49 PM PST by DannyTN

"Super volcano" could dwarf Indonesia's earthquake catastrophes: expert

Fri Apr 1,12:21 AM ET Science - AFP

SYDNEY (AFP) - As Indonesians struggled to recover from the second deadly earthquake to strike them in three months, an Australian expert warned the country faced the prospect of a "super volcano" eruption that would dwarf all previous catastrophes.

AFP/File Photo

Professor Ray Cas of Monash University's School of Geosciences said the world's biggest super volcano was Lake Toba, on Indonesia's island of Sumatra, site of both the recent massive earthquakes.

Cas told Australian media Friday that Toba sits on a faultline running down the middle of Sumatra -- just where some seismologists say a third earthquake might strike following the 9.0 magnitude quake on December 26 and Monday's 8.7 temblor.

Those quakes occurred along faultlines running just off Sumatra's west coast and created seismological stresses which could hasten an eruption.

Cas said Toba last erupted 73,000 years ago in an event so massive that it altered the entire world's climate.

"The eruption released 1,000 cubic kilometers (240 cubic miles) of ash and rock debris into the atmosphere, much of it as fine ash which blocked out solar radiation, kicking the world back into an ice age," he said.

The scientist said super volcanos represented the greatest potential hazard on earth, "the only greater threat being an asteroid impact from space".

"A super volcano will definitely erupt," he said.

"It could be in a few, 50 or another 1000 years but sooner or later one is going to go off."

Other super volcanos are found in Italy, South America, the United States and New Zealand -- where Mount Taupo could be ready for eruption.

"It has a big eruption every 2,000 years, and it last erupted about 2,000 years ago," Cas said.

The potential death toll from a super volcano eruption "could reach the hundreds of thousands to millions and there are serious implications on climate, weather and viability of food production," Cas said.

"The big problem is a lot of the volcanoes that potentially could erupt are perhaps not monitored to the degree that they should be, and of course we learnt that lesson from the Boxing Day tsunami disaster," he said.


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1 posted on 04/01/2005 3:01:50 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: William Creel

We shall soon see if Karl Rove's Super Volcano Machine works as well as his Tsunami Machine and his Hurricane Machine did last year.


3 posted on 04/01/2005 3:05:05 PM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: DannyTN
The sky is falling!


4 posted on 04/01/2005 3:09:16 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: William Creel
They've been covering this after the BBC created a movie on it. It's the media created "disaster of the month".

I feel kind of stupid for posting it now. Is there any legitimacy to it?

5 posted on 04/01/2005 3:09:30 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
"The eruption released 1,000 cubic kilometers (240 cubic miles) of ash and rock debris into the atmosphere, much of it as fine ash which blocked out solar radiation, kicking the world back into an ice age," he said.

Well dang. Guess we better get busy warming up the globe in preparation.

6 posted on 04/01/2005 3:09:54 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: speed_addiction
"We shall soon see if Karl Rove's Super Volcano Machine works as well as his Tsunami Machine and his Hurricane Machine did last year."

LOL Once Karl wipes out the Muslims from Indonesia who do you think he will target next?

7 posted on 04/01/2005 3:10:59 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: William Creel

Krakatoa...which erupted in the 1880's..was the world's largest recorded eruption...The island, which is located on the same fault line..literally blew itself apart..90% of it disappeared. In the 1920's..the volcano erupted out of ther ocean floor..and stated to rebuilt itself..there is now a new island, and it is the SAME height as Krakatoa before it erupted..


8 posted on 04/01/2005 3:11:06 PM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: Bon mots

"The sky is falling!"


No, it's being hurled at the ground with great force.


9 posted on 04/01/2005 3:11:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: DannyTN

Well, if a supervolcano goes off and brings on an ice age, I'd say that hundreds of millions of deaths is much likelier than a million, because of food shortages and consequent wars.

On the other hand, what good would a few days' warning do?


11 posted on 04/01/2005 3:12:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cripplecreek

"Cats and dogs living together!"


12 posted on 04/01/2005 3:14:18 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: DannyTN
I feel kind of stupid for posting it now. Is there any legitimacy to it?

There's some legitimacy to it. Not a lot, mind; it's far more likely that you'll get hit by lightning on the day you win the lottery. But yes, it is theoretically possible.
13 posted on 04/01/2005 3:14:26 PM PST by Ladypixel (People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.)
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To: Cicero
"millions of deaths is much likelier than a million, because of food shortages and consequent wars. "

Just another reason not to outsource food production to foreign countries.

14 posted on 04/01/2005 3:14:43 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

So many doomsday meteors/volcanoes/manmade problems, so little time.


15 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:22 PM PST by G32
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To: Cicero

True.

I just returned from Hawaii and visited the lava flows. I quickly learned that there is nothing you can do about molten rock. It sort of goes wherever the hell it wants to and the ocean can't even stop it.

Very impressive indeed.


16 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:49 PM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: DannyTN
Yes there is. I live on the west coast of Aus. This has been on non-stop since Easter Monday's quake.

Some expect Anak Krakaton to explode like its parent Krakatoa. Others point to this Super Volcano. One scientist in Perth was talking about the whole Ring of Fire going up. All cheer and sunshine down under.

17 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:57 PM PST by Siobhan (Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us.)
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To: cripplecreek
""It could be in a few, 50 or another 1000 years but sooner or later one is going to go off."

Well with that kind of prediction then I can safely predict that the Earth will collide with the moon. It could be in a few, 50 or another 1000 years, but sooner or later it will happen.

I predict that th UN will collapse, it could be in a few, 10 or another 150 years but sooner or later it will happen.

Hey this is kind of fun.

18 posted on 04/01/2005 3:16:29 PM PST by DaiHuy (Jesus is Lord.)
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To: ken5050

If we have another Krakatoa, then I won't have to keep looking for a job. Silver lining in every cloud!


19 posted on 04/01/2005 3:16:52 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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Other super volcanos are found in Italy, South America, the United States and New Zealand -- where Mount Taupo could be ready for eruption.

I d be very interested to learn how he draws the line of 'super' There are definitely volcanos that are much bigger than most volcanos, but I don't think any of them are in Italy or the US. Anyone know which he considers 'super' volcanos in these places? That said, a 'super' volcano can have major global climatic effect. The New England colonies once had the 'year without summer' (snow in July and Aug) due to an eruption in the Pacific.

20 posted on 04/01/2005 3:19:35 PM PST by blanknoone (Steyn: "The Dems are all exit and no strategy")
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To: DannyTN
Is there any legitimacy to it?

Sure. These things have happened and will happen. On our watch? Hah! The Red Sox will win the World Series first.

21 posted on 04/01/2005 3:19:40 PM PST by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: RightWhale

No, no when the Detroit Lions win the Super Bowl, then it really will be time to panic.


22 posted on 04/01/2005 3:20:18 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: blanknoone

DannyTN just showed you one in the USA.


23 posted on 04/01/2005 3:20:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: Siobhan
"All cheer and sunshine down under."

Bummer mate.

24 posted on 04/01/2005 3:21:17 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: blanknoone

Yellowstone is a supervolcano. Seriously, what is all the steam and sulfur and frequent earthquakes all about? And that is when it is quiescent.


25 posted on 04/01/2005 3:23:09 PM PST by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: DannyTN
"The eruption released 1,000 cubic kilometers (240 cubic miles) of ash and rock debris into the atmosphere, much of it as fine ash which blocked out solar radiation, kicking the world back into an ice age," he said.

Well, that ought to take care of Global Warming ;O).

26 posted on 04/01/2005 3:23:27 PM PST by chit*chat
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To: DannyTN

27 posted on 04/01/2005 3:24:40 PM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Siobhan
Indeed.. "down under" anout 10' of ash if it blew...

Enjoy the day, Mate.

28 posted on 04/01/2005 3:26:18 PM PST by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Siobhan

BFD - So what can anybody DO about it?


29 posted on 04/01/2005 3:27:58 PM PST by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: DannyTN

Woo haw! Another gloom & doom we're all gonna die article.

Smoehow I figure if they keep writing them, it won't happen.


30 posted on 04/01/2005 3:28:04 PM PST by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name!)
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To: DaiHuy; RadioAstronomer
Well with that kind of prediction then I can safely predict that the Earth will collide with the moon. It could be in a few, 50 or another 1000 years, but sooner or later it will happen.

No it won't. It is scientific fact that the moon is moving away from the earth. It will someday be gone but it will never collide with the earth.

31 posted on 04/01/2005 3:32:31 PM PST by farmfriend ( Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?!?)
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To: blanknoone

The biggest badest volcano of them all is right here in the good old USA,Yellowstone, and it goes off large about every 600,000 years. And the last large eruption was, you guessed it, 600,000 years ago.


32 posted on 04/01/2005 3:32:42 PM PST by jpsb
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To: DannyTN
Is there any legitimacy to it?

Oh, sure. These things have been happening for millions of years and will happen again.

Maybe tomorrow, maybe not for another 10,000 years. But 10,000 years is but a blip on a geological scale.

33 posted on 04/01/2005 3:33:24 PM PST by Flyer ( http://dahtcom.com)
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To: DannyTN

We need to start bleeding off the excess energy at these supervolcano sites.


34 posted on 04/01/2005 3:34:01 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Re-elect Rossi in 2005!)
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To: farmfriend

In the beginning the moon was only 40,000 miles away. can you imagine that the tides must have been like! yikes!


35 posted on 04/01/2005 3:34:08 PM PST by jpsb
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To: citizen

Well, actually, we are all going to die.


36 posted on 04/01/2005 3:35:45 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: DannyTN

Volcano by JIMMY BUFFETT


I don't know
I don't know where I'm a gonna go
When the volcano blow

Chorus:
Let me say now I don't know
I don't know
I don't know where I'm a gonna go
When the volcano blow

Ground she's movin' under me
Tidal waves out on the sea
Sulphur smoke up in the sky
Pretty soon we learn to fly

Chorus:
Let me hear ya now I don't know
I don't know
I don't know where I'm a gonna go
When the volcano blow

Now my girl quickly say to me
Mon you better watch your feet
Lava come down soft and hot
You better lava me now or lava me not

Chorus:
Let me say now I don't know
I don't know
I don't know where I'm a gonna go
When the volcano blow

-- Spoken: "Mr Utley..."

No time to count what I'm worth
'Cause I just left the planet earth
Where I go I hope there's rum
Not to worry mon soon come

Chorus:
Now I don't know
I don't know
I don't know where I'm a gonna go
When the volcano blow

Chorus:
One more now I don't know (ah he don't know)
I don't know (he don't know, mon)
I don't know where I'm a gonna go
When the volcano blow

But I don't want to land in New York City
Don't want to land in Mexico (no no no)
Don't want to land on no Three Mile Island
Don't want to see my skin aglow (no no no)

Don't want to land in Commanche Sky park
Or in Nashville, Tennessee (no no no)
Don't want to land in no San Juan airport
Or the Yukon Territory (no no no)

Don't want to land no San Diego
Don't want to land in no Buzzards Bay (no no no)
Don't want to land on no Ayotollah
I got nothing more to say

Chorus:
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know where I'm a gonna go
When the volcano blow

Chorus:
Just a one more, I don't know (he don't know)
I don't know (I don't know, man)
I don't know where I'm a gonna go
When the volcano blow


37 posted on 04/01/2005 3:36:15 PM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (Flashback.)
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To: jpsb
can you imagine that the tides must have been like! yikes!

Not as bad as the instability when the moon is gone though. Apparently it will make the earth uninhabitable.

38 posted on 04/01/2005 3:37:37 PM PST by farmfriend ( Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?!?)
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To: ken5050

I would love to have seen Krakatoa when she blew. My father spent many years retelling me the story of how a ship in English waters heard the explosion and thought it was a nearby ship in distress.

I'd also would've love to have seen Vesuvius when she blew. Pliny the Elder did, but then he and his little boat were 'bye bye' after he saw it, so I guess I will just have to postpone my Sumatra vacation and ask those living there to
GET THE HECK OUTATHERE!

The Ring of Fire is not just a Johnny Cash song.






40 posted on 04/01/2005 3:43:22 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: blanknoone

Check out the history of the hot spot that is now under Yellowstone NP before you conclude that the US has no risk.


41 posted on 04/01/2005 3:44:36 PM PST by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: DannyTN

A large portion of Yellowstone National Park is said to be a super-volcanic crater visible from space, more than 40 miles in diameter - last erupted 600,000 years ago and is supposed to be due for another mega-blast that could swaddle the planet in ash.... forget global warming, we'll be talking major ice age.... if that one goes off it will leave most other enviro-horror scenarios in the dust.... literally. Hope it waits at least a few hundred or thousand years more, until humanity has better ways of coping....


42 posted on 04/01/2005 3:48:04 PM PST by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: DannyTN

The super volcano referred to in the U.S...... are they referring to Yellowstone?


44 posted on 04/01/2005 3:52:41 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: farmfriend
it will make the earth uninhabitable

That is what some astronomers say, the earth's natural wobble would be much greater without the moon, so great that there wouldn't be a stable climate zone for lifeforms to find their niches. Maybe so. One of the outer planets is spinning so far over on its axis that the seasons are as radical as possible. Summer at the pole lasts for years with the sun way overhead. Then winter with no sun for more years. If earth did that the arctic would boil dry and the antarctic likewise. Not life friendly.

45 posted on 04/01/2005 3:53:58 PM PST by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: Beowulf9

You may yet get a chance to witness BOTh events..


46 posted on 04/01/2005 3:56:17 PM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: William Creel

I'm very very far from expert on any of this, but I think it's on such a massive scale that any hole we could bore would be inadequate..... but maybe if we excavate an area a few miles across.... but maybe we'll just speed up the natural catastrophe as all h--- breaks loose when the lava gets exposed. I have no idea if there's anything humanity can do about it, but I sure hope someone knowledgeable is thinking about it! We won't have to talk about global warming anymore if any of these super-volcanoes acts up....


47 posted on 04/01/2005 3:57:11 PM PST by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: Frohike

I feel really stupid for asking this, but I will anyway. Is there anyway to release pressure on a super volcano?

I know I know.... dumb question.


48 posted on 04/01/2005 3:59:23 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: William Creel

Did you watch that Hillary Swank movie, "Core"?


49 posted on 04/01/2005 4:00:41 PM PST by canalabamian (Diversity is not our strength...UNITY is.)
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To: diamond6

yes


50 posted on 04/01/2005 4:00:53 PM PST by DannyTN
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