Posted on 04/07/2005 6:20:40 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
The Church has never used the word heretic after Vatican II.
"Yet in recent months, the 39-year-old gay man, who did not complete his seminary studies, has been thinking about leaving the church because of the legacy of Pope John Paul's stance on homosexuality"
He can convert to Episco-Baalian and no doubt would get to be a bishop
Reuters(!) said it this way???!! Someone's head will roll -- that's the elephant in the parlor (of the scandal) that's not supposed to be mentioned!
"Catholic teachings on homosexuality may not have changed much under John Paul, but his papacy coincided with the gay rights movements, AIDS and priest sex scandals highlighting issues related to homosexual clergymen."
Just because you flipped on the lights and the cockroaches are scrambling doesn't mean you throw twinkies on the floor to feed them. You get out the bug spray.
I just hate it when I go to church and that happens...
/sarcasm
morning all...they're starting to come out of the woodwork.
A Gay Catholic? Can't be such a thing. A Gay Christian of any denomination or Jew for that matter. It's an abomination before God. Period. Repent, change your ways.
IMO it ought be Impossible for any to be "Gay" and Catholic
as it is impossible to be homosexual and CChristian. For the two ideas are mutually EXCLUSIVE. The heart soul and mind of the homosexual is identified by their obsession with their sexual identity -for this reason God gave them over to a reprobate mind -to do that which is not convienent. If any accept Christ as Lord of their life then they are "a new Creation" old things are passed away
they are dead to the lusts of the world and foolish if they continue to ressurect the dead. Those who insist they are
gay and Catholic/Christian are either decieved by the deciever or ignorant of the Truth.For those that are Christian ought obey the first great commandment.By this we will know they belong to God, and not to the Father of Lies.
It certainly does. It directly equates it with male homosexuality.
Romans 1:24-27 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
This dude in the article has constructed a very clever strawman. The rule isn't "no sex." The rule is "no gay sex."
If he foreswears the ass-love and marries a nice lady, he can have all the sex they want.
"Kind of amusing the liberals coming out of the woodwork telling the Catholics how to run their church."
Yeah, let them try telling Muslims how to run their religion.
All those who remain in their sin tend to feel that same challenge. The opposite of repentance is clinging to your sin. The disagreement here really isn't with the church...it's with God.
Sure it does.
This is kind of like saying "It's not easy being a Republican when I support only Democrats". How many of the tenents of the Church must you break before realizing that maybe being a preist for the Church is not for you.
"They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts."
Paul seems to be saying that their punishment for moral depravity is their queer lifestyle
A sexually active "gay" Catholic is as absurd a notion as that of a peaceful Moslem. A true Catholic can no more be an active homosexual than a true Moslem can be against molesting children, raping women, and chopping off the heads of all infidels.
Worth repeating...
The only gay Catholic I know is committed to a celibate life.
Sez, and I papaphrase, maybe we are born this way but it's up to us to avoid sin. In other words - far from lowering his standards, he insists on keeping the bar as high as possible.
You won't see him interviewed by the MSM.
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Peter Norak has practiced Catholicism his whole life, starting as an altar boy and then studying for seven years toward becoming a priest.
Yet in recent months, the 39-year-old necrophile, who did not complete his seminary studies, has been thinking about leaving the church because of the legacy of Pope John Paul's stance on necrophilia.
"It's not an easy life to do that, to want to maintain your identity as Catholic and necrophile," said Norak, who seeks to legitimize man-corpse sex.
"The church came out very much opposed to necrophilia and I would say that was part of it," he said, explaining why he stopped going to Mass regularly more than a year ago. "It has challenged my ability to feel comfortable in the church."
Under Pope John Paul, the Vatican preached that necrophiles should be treated with compassion but made clear it absolutely opposed the practice and called necrosexuality a disorder. The Pope referred to perverted sex as an "ideology of evil."
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