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Teacher forces preschooler to relieve herself in front of other students
WBIR (NBC-10 Knoxville) ^ | 4/7/5 | Jennifer Geiger , Producer

Posted on 04/07/2005 10:50:56 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: 1 spark; Bella_Bru

Great, I posted the wrong link twice now. I need to go to bed.

One last time before giving up:

http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/m.sion/virgoryw.htm


281 posted on 04/07/2005 9:56:20 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Sam's Army

Knock yourself out. It just isn't for everyone nor does it mean that a practitioner is a superior person to those who don't. Or ordained by God as some are claiming.


282 posted on 04/07/2005 10:53:11 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: SmithL

Sometimes when teachers get old they snap. After 20 years shouldn't this teacher be eligible for retirement?

Forcing the child to relieve herself while the class watched doesn't make sense. If the little girl is 2 to 5 years old the bucket was probably as big as she is and most of that urine probably got on her or the floor. Seems like a pointless thing to do.


283 posted on 04/08/2005 4:19:08 AM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: justshutupandtakeit
And likewise with those that have an unnatural phobia of homeschooling.

The teachers unions definitely don't like it; strange to see Freepers who agree with the unions, but oh well.

284 posted on 04/08/2005 5:40:02 AM PDT by Sam's Army (When's the next Opus?)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Have you ever seen CBS or any other mass media station do an expose on "The Dark Side of Public Schooling" like they did on "The Dark Side of Homeschooling" ?

Sure the media can report abuse by those who homeschool, just as they report other abuse cases that occur in public or private schools. But why drag homeschooling into it when it's just gratuitous to the incident ? Because the liberal agenda is to get kids away from their parents and teach them against their parents' values.


285 posted on 04/08/2005 5:56:24 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Modernman

Only if you want them peer-dependent. The best way is to get them involved with people of all ages - old, middle-age, young, peers, and younger - doing meaningful things.


286 posted on 04/08/2005 6:03:28 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: politicket
I do pray that you have a long, long life....for one day comes judgment and I wouldn't want to repeat that phrase at the throne.

If there is a god, I look forward to repeating that phrase.

287 posted on 04/08/2005 9:42:27 AM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Sam's Army
Remember the talking points: For your remark to have REAL effect you have to refer to anyone that dares to hold the Bible in such high regard as an "American Taliban".

I prefer "Talibornagain."

288 posted on 04/08/2005 9:43:22 AM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Modernman

Sounds like the name of a SF area punk band. Better make sure it isn't trademarked.


289 posted on 04/08/2005 10:46:54 AM PDT by Sam's Army (When's the next Opus?)
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To: Sam's Army

I know of no "unnatural phobia" exhibited about Home schooling. Those who recognize it as a step back into something which was the norm but now is not is hardly an unnatural phobia or any form of phobia. If widely implemented home schooling would not have the same positive effects it can have now since it currently avoids most of the problems which public schooling must face and deal with now. Comparing it to public schooling is like having a race where one horse has only a jockey and the other has an extra two hundred pounds and the jockey.

Freepers do not have to think like Union members in order to have different ideas than you do since they do not have the same interests at heart. Nor is it appropriate to try and slander them so.


290 posted on 04/11/2005 7:25:02 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: cinives

The media regularly has programs about the public schools failings. Even 60 Minutes has had several including exposing the financial shenannigans in New York City's a few years ago.

Contrary to the prevailing mythology the public schools are a constant source of negative stories. Chicago has had a huge reform movement to make its schools shape up and over a decade ago instituted parental control over them through elected local councils which set policy for the schools and can hire and fire principals. It is an indisputable fact that the greatest problem with public schools is the students. As the percentage of Out of wedlock and welfare dependent children grows the educational achievements shrink. This is something home schooling does not have to face.

Schools are such a constant source of concern and worry that Congress got into the act with the No Child Left Behind Act recently.

It is simply false that the shortcomings of public education are not widely discussed. In fact it is so wide that SOME think there is only negative.


291 posted on 04/11/2005 7:34:39 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I never said the shortcomings of public education were never discussed in the national media. All I pointed out was that the only things reported in the national media about homeschoolers were the misdeeds of a few.

Your statement that it's an indisputable fact that the greatest problem with public schools is the students is just an incredible non-sequitor. There would not be public schools without the students, so they need to work with what they have for a solution.

Schools fail because the curriculum is failed, many teachers are a joke, and the administration has taken away all forms of discipline available to the teacher, if the teacher would even choose to use it these days, kids have not learned to read well by 5th grade, and excellence is a foreign notion to teachers and students alike, and as a society we have not decided whether we want schools to teach academics or lifestyle issues.

292 posted on 04/11/2005 7:43:35 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Sue me


293 posted on 04/11/2005 8:02:01 AM PDT by Sam's Army (When's the next Opus?)
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To: cinives

Home schooling is rarely discussed and when some of the negatives are you get all upset. When the Black Panthers were in their heyday they ran their "home schooling " programs for kids. Of course, it was pure indoctrination of communism. That can easily be the case today for groups. It is not ALL good.

It is none the less true that it is the collapse of families and their destruction by the welfare system has produced students who are incredibly difficult to teach and who make it incredibly difficult to teach others. Add to the OOW the crack babies and the crank babies and you have a real sweet mix of pathologies. Unfortunately all solutions are predicated on the presumption that you are dealing with mature parents willing to work with the schools for good results.

Your last paragraph is not exactly comprehensible and appears to be a farrago of semi-literate nonsense.


294 posted on 04/11/2005 8:39:52 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

As my wise grandmother used to say, when you point a finger at someone, there are four pointing back at yourself.


295 posted on 04/11/2005 5:07:12 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Raycpa

RE: "Its clear to me after reading what I found and what you linked to, that the proper translation can be either. A young woman can be a virgin."

Looks like the Vatican has agreed that adjustments are in order...at least for the Isaiah interpretation.

Read: http://www.lightwatcher.com/old_lightbytes/deadsea_scrolls_pub.html ...and note paragraphs 4 and 5.

and another similar article:
http://www.lightwatcher.com/spirit_stars/bible_scrolls.html
(note paragraphs 5, 6 and the last one.)


296 posted on 04/11/2005 8:16:28 PM PDT by 1 spark (Jeremiah 16:19)
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To: SmithL

What in Sam Hill was that idiot thinking?


297 posted on 04/11/2005 8:20:51 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: 1 spark
Are not most young women also virgins? Isn't it also true that many virgins are not necessarily young women?

Isiah merely chooses the more descriptive term which conveys more information.

Why is this so important to you? In the past when I found myself really hung up on a line of scripture, it was because God was trying to teach me something that I wanted to resist. Is God trying to teach you something and you are resisting? Maybe this prediction scares you? Maybe it shakes your foundations? If so, ask God to reveal the truth to you.

298 posted on 04/12/2005 5:10:52 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: cinives

Too bad she didn't make clear that one shouldn't hide behind folk wisdom rather than deal with issues.


299 posted on 04/12/2005 6:57:43 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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