Skip to comments.Congressman Billybob's Speech at Today's March for Justice II
Posted on 04/07/2005 5:29:30 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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Benevolent dictatorship never was, and never should be, the American system of government. Judges who think that way are UNFIT to sit on any bench at any level in America, most especially on the Supreme Court.
Iran has a limited democracy -- limited by the mullahs who hold all the power and can trump any pol, any law, or any person. What's the difference between an Iranian Mullah and a Us Supreme Court Justice? Really, what's the difference?
I would say rather "Mr. President, replace this Court" ....
Tearing down? Would that phrase not be the words that would be used by the NYTimes and ABBCNNBCBS to prevent reform?
Spot on!!! Keep the pressure on -- and Godspeed.
tonk a bump
Congratulations! You have delared your independence. Now fight with your rag-tag army. Fight!
bump for later read of the honorable congressman's wise words!
Yippie!!! there is hope afterall. This is in the "Keep" pile.
Do not erase
Thanks for the ping!
It should be printed up into a pamphlet and circulated far and wide over our country.
And you did an excellent delivery of it too!
Thanks for heads up on John's speech FF...
We (my daughter and I) met a lot of great freepers today and it was the best fun we had in a long time together.
Here's a pic we will cherish forever:
Bump for archiving.
Seriously, well done Billybob; it's a keeper.
On my way home from work tonight I heard a speech that Jim Wallis gave here in Mpls today(yes I know he's a big time lefty). (If memory serves) "There are a lot of politicans in Washington that spend their days walikng around with a wet finger in the wind. Trying to discover what we want. We're not going to change this country by simply replacing one wet fingered politician with another. We need to change the wind.
Brilliant and moving. I have but one quibble: "Now we are in the midst of a war over our Constitution. No shots will be fired. No cities attacked. But make no mistake, this is a war. If we lose it, our Constitution will die."
I'm afraid that shots will have to be fired to save the Constitution because it's becoming increasingly clear rational debate and winning elections will not protect the document from those that choose not to defend it on either side of the aisle.
Replace Ann Coulter with Laura Ingraham. Laura at least clerked for the Supreme Court.
Naw - I don't yield. I love them both. They can be co-judges.
McConnell v. FEC in 2003. That was the Campaign Finance Reform case.
My take on this (backed up by absolutly nothing. One mans take freely given and worth almost that much)
The Congress and the President both thought I can get some good press out of this and the USSC will overturn it so no harm done. It gets to the Court and the Court (or some members) think we're tired of the other two branch throwing this kind of crap in our laps and expecting us to clean up their messes. So they say it's constitutional, throwing it back to Congress.
Now What are YOU(and I) going to do? We can sit here and bi*ch and complain piss and moan, ooorrrr we can start putting pressure on these clowns. Everytime they come home to eat rubber chicken, and tell us what they're doing ask them what are you doing about BCFRA. Again and again and again..... mentioning the magic word to politicians money.
OUTSTANDING! OUTSTANDING! OUTSTANDING!
"Replacement of Scalia, OConnor and Ginsburg, is the key to the remedy..."
Gosh, I hope you meant Rehnquist instead of Scalia. I REALLY hope nothing is wrong with Scalia!
Great Job (as usual).
The case in question is where Senator mcConnell and others took Campaign Finance Reform to the SC because it unconstitutionally
bans certain groups from speaking out in federal elections for up to 60 days beforehand. The SC has always before upheld the people's right to speak out.
In this case, in the majority opinion, they said (and I paraphrase) that because of the possible appearance of corruption in campaigns, to avoid even the appearance of undue influence of money, it trumped free speech. And even then, the campaigns found ways around it (Moveon.org, etc.) So the SC judges squelched free speech FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY--admittedly and knowingly because they thought that was better than the appearance of possible corruption.
What might they decide trumps some of our other rights in future, and what rights? I don't care diddley about evolving codes of decency in Europe or what their standards are. Nothing should supercede our Constitution in decisions of the court.
If you can't see that as more than grumpiness that our side lost, take another look.
Why does everyone continue to tiptoe around the elephant in the living-room here. The fact is that at least two of those five judges, who are using the Constitution for a floormat, were appointed by GOP presidents.
A 6-3 conservative Court would certainly be a blessing. I am holding my breath to see how things develope.
Thank you for your self-post (available to all who click on your name in post #78). Some of the well chosen words are as follows:
THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. Britain, with an army to enforce her tyranny, has declared that she has a right (not only to TAX) but "to BIND us in ALL CASES WHATSOEVER" and if being bound in that manner, is not slavery, then is there not such a thing as slavery upon earth. Even the expression is impious; for so unlimited a power can belong only to God.
"There never has been a time when the power of America was so necessary or so misunderstood, or when, except in the most general sense, a study of history provides so little instruction for our present day."
"There is a myth that though we love freedom, others don't; that our attachment to freedom is a product of our culture; that freedom, democracy, human rights, the rule of law are American values, or Western values; that Afghan women were content under the lash of the Taliban; that Saddam was somehow beloved by his people; that Milosevic was Serbia's savior."
"Members of Congress, ours are not Western values, they are the universal values of the human spirit. And anywhere, any time ordinary people are given the chance to choose, the choice is the same: freedom, not tyranny; democracy, not dictatorship; the rule of law, not the rule of the secret police."
"So America must listen as well as lead. But, members of Congress, don't ever apologize for your values. Tell the world why you're proud of America. Tell them when the Star-Spangled Banner starts, Americans get to their feet, Hispanics, Irish, Italians, Central Europeans, East Europeans, Jews, Muslims, white, Asian, black, those who go back to the early settlers and those whose English is the same as some New York cab drivers I've dealt with, but whose sons and daughters could run for this Congress. Tell them why Americans, one and all, stand upright and respectful. Not because some state official told them to, but because whatever race, color, class or creed they are, being American means being free. That's why they're proud." Tony Blair 7/17/03
Sorry I missed you yesterday. So how was it? Decent turnout? Besides this speech thread, I really haven't seen a thing on the march.
Lot of TRUTH in those words.
I pray every American will be awakened and realize our Supreme Court is chipping away at the very foundation this Great Nation is built upon.
Maybe the Constitution should be required reading for all Justices and Nominees.
I think that should have been Rehnquist.
"...trampled states rights..." That had been abrogated by Dhimmicrats, working as proponents of a vile institution (the more things change...), who chose to use political power to first attempt to expand the institution, then chose to render asunder the fabric of the land and the people in their persistance. They therefore had to be - and Were!!! - stopped.
Two points for thee to ponder: we can take this to one of many Civil War threads, and finally a question: if the South was destroyed as you say, then why is our conservative heart - perhaps even as the current struggle for our Nation's soul plays out in the coming days - found to be beating strongest in the South? I don't know how you may respond, but for my part, it seems that something "destroyed" could not then be alive, much less have enough vitality to act as the bulwark (within the busom of its people) of successfully fending off this latest threat to our Constitution.
For BillyBob - excellent speech. I've missed your thoughts here on Freep. God Bless.
I am sorry I could not join you yesterday. Thanks for posting the speech!
Look forward to hoisting a brew w/ you soon.
I love you.
Take it from me. Do NOT throw darts at your monitor!
Lee's Ghost: It occurs to me that the Internet, and more specifically this website, has become a colonial tavern. It was in the taverns that our founding fathers came together with their contemporaries and neighbors to discuss the issues of the day to hone their debates and refine their political perspectives. We lost that intimacy between community leaders and "yeomen" probably about the time the radio was introduced. The Internet is bringing us back together and I swear I see it beginning to make a difference.
There is still hope for the U.S. and people like you, [Congressman Billybob], prove it.
bump. A lot os this depends not on a lawyer, now, but on a doctor--Frist. I've been very uneasy at his apparent timidity. I do hope he can work up the passion to take on the Filibuster.
I'm not saying this to kiss your a$$, but you are the smartest poster on this forum IMO.