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Football coach was Shot on School Campus
Associated Press via ESPN.com ^ | April 8, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/08/2005 6:56:00 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats

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To: One Proud Dad
I like to watch small town Texas football. The big city schools aren't any fun. At the 6 man, 1A and 2A levels, it's still fun.

As to this situation, the guy who shot the coach was a head case, and was willing to hurt anyone for any reason.

I agree with you on pro sports. Every so often I'll see a pro athlete with class (current examples being Tim Duncan, Emmitt Smith, Tom Brady), but for the most part, pro athletes are a bunch of Warren Sapps, or worse, Ray Lewises.

I like to watch high school cause I know the kids playing.

41 posted on 04/08/2005 8:35:23 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: meandog

I'm not sure why you'd punish the kids for what the dad did.


42 posted on 04/08/2005 8:36:01 AM PDT by dmz
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To: One Proud Dad

So, if they deny you, do ya shoot your way in to get your kid?

You might be going a bit overboard with the false imprisonment thing.


43 posted on 04/08/2005 8:40:35 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Richard Kimball

You are right. There is nothing like a close 2A game on a chilly November evening when playoff spots are being contested, especially if your kid is playing. For all the bad press it has it merits.

Another silly thing is the taking of 3 teams from each district to playoffs. Taking a 3rd place team that was 2-3 in district ( maybe .500 for season ) to the playoffs is fodder for the others. Only on rare occasion do these teams advance past the first round. This maybe the soccer mom thing were you need more winners to bolster self-esteem. I think it is so coaches can say I took my team to the playoffs X years without having to give an actual win-loss record.

Go back like it was, district winner takes all. When they implemented this it confirmed it was all about money and extending the season.


44 posted on 04/08/2005 8:43:35 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: dmz

Funny, not really. Hypothetically, while all the LEO's are out looking for this nut, he does come back or some other misfortune occurs. Once a crisis situation has started many things can go wrong ask Murphy. I want my kid with me.

Litigation may be an alternative to amend this policy. I know at our small 2A school they will let my kids out also for any other parent that shows up as we know all the teachers as neighbors.

My older ones have cells when I tell them to exit the building they will.

Bottom line, it is my kid not theirs, my kid my responsibility once I am on scene. They are safer with me than anyone else, no exception.

A school could not survive the suit that followed if a child was hurt in a lockdown situation after the parent(s) arrived and asked for their release.


45 posted on 04/08/2005 8:52:45 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: dmz

Plus, I do not need the school officials taking it upon themselves to counsel/console my kids over this tragedy. I will take care of that myself. I don't own a pair of Birkenstocks.


46 posted on 04/08/2005 8:55:08 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: boofus
The dumbass media said it was an 'assault rifle' another said it was an AK-47. Never seen an AK-47 in .45acp, sounds like the media doesn't know their head from their ass.

Either way it's a good example of why you really need a battle rifle, something in real caliber, like .308 or 30-06. 'Course it helped that the coach is a pretty big man, of the "no neck" variety.

47 posted on 04/08/2005 8:55:27 AM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: You Dirty Rats
It's deeper than politics or religion or family -- it's FOOTBALL!! - When I first arrived in San Francisco I visited a local watering hole and we were talking football one night when a fellow said, you guys in Texas act like football is a religion, I corrected him by letting him know it is THE RELIGON in Texas. By the way I tried to tackle Earl Campbell my Jr. year in high school, I still have a headache 30 years later.
48 posted on 04/08/2005 8:56:00 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: One Proud Dad
My Pirates played Grandview in the first round of the playoffs, and Grandview was something like 5-6. They did not belong in the playoffs, and it showed that day. Sometimes, you'll have a district where there are several really good teams (we ended up third in district with a 10-1 record one year).

Which schools do you follow? We're in Central Texas. In the playoffs this year, we faced Grandview, Cisco, Cooper, Celina, Canadian and Troup. We broke Celina's 70 game winning 2A winning streak, but our toughest game was Cisco (three point win in double overtime, we were down 15 with 8 minutes left).

49 posted on 04/08/2005 8:59:32 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: Richard Kimball

We are Pewitt. We won state in 98 and were close in 93 and 99. We play Garrison, Corrigan-Camden, San Augustine, and Troup are some we meet in the playoffs. Every year we get at least 3 deep if not further. The year (04) my son was senior we lost to Garrison ( on to be state champs ) in a game we had won ( up by 13 ) and ran out of gas in the last 4 minutes and they scored to twice to win. Great, but heart breaking game.

Dekalb, Hughes Springs, Linden-Kildare, Cooper to name a few. It has gotten that 2A schools outside our district won't play us in pre-district so we have to drive far or play close 3A schools sometimes.


50 posted on 04/08/2005 9:09:51 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: You Dirty Rats
1. First, a trial. Is he guilty of the crime?

2. Second, if guilty, sentence him to be hung in the center of town by the neck until dead.

3. Attendance by ALL school children will be mandatory.

4. No apologies for this point of view.

51 posted on 04/08/2005 9:18:25 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: alisasny
You can learn all you need to know about Texas football from Hank Hill.

"Yep"

52 posted on 04/08/2005 9:21:32 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Pedro offers you his protection)
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To: You Dirty Rats
No football? Ask any SMU alum how they felt when the NCAA gave that program the death penalty. Try taking football away from the Longhorns or Texas Tech or, God Forbid, Texas A&M.

...remember when A&M's administration took away the bonfire ritual?

53 posted on 04/08/2005 9:27:35 AM PDT by meandog (bellum nec timendum nec provacandum)
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To: dmz
I'm not sure why you'd punish the kids for what the dad did.

According to the story, there is more than the one dad who felt this way; so, considering children model parents....

54 posted on 04/08/2005 9:30:53 AM PDT by meandog (bellum nec timendum nec provacandum)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Well if y'all would shoot a few of your coaches you wouldn't have the current problems with the Bengals and Browns (or is it Ravens?)


55 posted on 04/08/2005 9:45:18 AM PDT by BJClinton
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To: Pyroxene

The following mention AK-47...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1379229/posts?page=108#108

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1379229/posts?page=166#166

Then this story reverts to a .45 handgun

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1379229/posts?page=200#200


56 posted on 04/08/2005 9:59:51 AM PDT by deport (You know you are getting older when everything either dries up or leaks.)
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To: BJClinton
Well if y'all would shoot a few of your coaches you wouldn't have the current problems with the Bengals and Browns (or is it Ravens?)

You got me there, Billy Jeff. Art Modell was lucky HE didn't get shot when he moved our team to Baltimore.

On the other hand, the Ben-Gals had a better year than the Cowboys and y'all really need to do something about Jerry Jones. Even the Tuna can't straighten out that mess.

57 posted on 04/08/2005 10:04:16 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: You Dirty Rats
As ML would say .... JUST DAMN!
58 posted on 04/08/2005 10:10:51 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Since Tuna has come on Jerry has been a lot more hands off. It has been my experience 4 years are usually required to truly turn a program around. I expect to compete with Philly this year (you heard it here, first) for the division and make a serious run for the Lombardi the next.


59 posted on 04/08/2005 10:21:29 AM PDT by BJClinton
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To: meandog

They made them quit playing Jenga on campus, too. (that's an inside joke. if you don't get it, don't worry.)


60 posted on 04/08/2005 10:34:19 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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