The thousands of illegal immigrants I've known pay social security and income taxes, sales tax, gas tax, etc. They qualify but don't ask for income tax refunds. Historically illegal Poles, but not illegal Hispanics or Asians, have collected social security. Thus illegal Hispanics and Asians have kept social security solvent.
You know Thousands of Illegals? You really are a trip in specious reasoning and serial exaggeration. The Illegals we see here in our IL town are large consumers of public assistance. You can see it right at the local food mart when they hand over their food stamps to the cashier and tie up the line for minutes on end as the cashier tries to validate the stamps.
And the idea that the few Illegal Aliens who do pay into social security under some kind of bogus or stolen social security number are helping support Social Security especially given their low wages is pure rubbish. Like all the subsidized welfare and public benefits they take advantage of, Illegal Aliens get out much more than they pay in.
And if our government finds that it needs an ever higher population to support the actuarially bankrupt democrat entitlements not even the population of China would suffice at some point in keeping social security, Medicaid and Medicare solvent. The solution is to radically restructure those programs with large elements of privatization--not throw more people at it.
As a landlord I have had over 800 immigrants in my apartments in the past.
I have found jobs for over 100 that were not my tenants, plus many that were.
I have taught ESL and citizenship to over 300.
I have attended church with hundreds most of whom do not overlap the above.
I have been part of organizing hundreds in political action on slum housing, police protection, etc.
(Incidentally I have been part of groups that organized "welfare rights groups of over 500 and knew most of them casually / by name and they were heavily non-immigrant, non-Black citizens ... meaning white and Puerto Rican. But only a few of Mexican ancestry in a heavily immigrant/Mexican area.
I have inspected the houses of literally thousands in my prior profession. 50 homes a day, over 200 days a year for a couple years and less often for 14 years.
I am the one who talks about immigration to both the Hispanic cleaning crew and the Indian IT workers in over 30 big company offices in Illinois where I've been a consultant. I've trained Indians to take my job back to India with them. I am active on Indian immigrant chat rooms.
In the distant past I've knocked on every door in over 20 heavily immigrant city precincts for political and community organizing purposes.
In the recent past I've knocked on every
door in 15 heavily immigrant suburban precincts plus about 10 not so heavily immigrant precincts.
In my precincts, all but one Hispanic voter voted for Bush in '80 and for my GOP slate in a divisive 3 way race with 2 GOP slates and 1 Dem slate. The lone Dem voter is a 3d generation Hispanic. Over 6 Hispanic non-citizen families in my precincts had Bush yard signs, plus the many voters, of course.
I've been politically active on the immigration issue since 1961, attending both pro and anti meetings and seminars and training sessions. I think I have as good a handle on Illinois immigration as anyone. I don't claim first hand knowledge of AZ or CA.
At the local supermarket in Hanover Pk the #1 user of foodstamps, WIC, etc is white women. #2 is white men. Then Blacks. Then native born of Hispanic heritage, mostly Puerto Rican, not of immigrant ancestry. Eligible immigrants are last. I'm the guy that chooses to stand in the slowest line and observe others in all the lines. I'm the guy who speaks up to shame the foodstamp/WIC user.
Yes. There are some problems. Utopia is still out of reach. But the sky is not falling. Immigrants are not one of the four horsemen.