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Activist Claims School Censored Protest Against Homosexual Event
High School Conservative Clubs of America ^ | Tim Bueler

Posted on 04/13/2005 4:57:22 PM PDT by President of HSCCA Tim Bueler

Activist Claims School Censored Protest Against Homosexual Event

By Mary Rettig April 12, 2005

(AgapePress) - Members of a high school conservative group in California are saying their First Amendment rights were violated when they tried to protest an upcoming pro-homosexual "Day of Silence" event.

Tim Bueler, a senior at Rancho Cotate High School in Rohnert Park, is the founder and president of the High School Conservative Clubs of America. Last week the Rancho Cotate High School Conservative Club participated in a demonstration called the "Day of Truth." The conservative protest was designed to counter a pro-homosexual observance known as the "Day of Silence," an event planned by the Gay-Straight Alliance and fashioned after a similar nationwide demonstration.

Over two days last week the Conservative Club members walked around Rohnert Park carrying signs bearing the message "Homosexuality is Sin" or citing scripture references against homosexuality. Many students wore pro-marriage messages on their sweatshirts and passed out pro-family literature as well.

The off-campus demonstration proceeded largely without incident. However, Bueler says the protesters were met with opposition when they tried to enter Rancho Cotate High School. "Our signs and our material were confiscated," he complains, alleging that school officials "confiscated all of our literature and our sweatshirts right when we got into class, and they cited material disruption."

The Conservative Club founder says he protested against the school officials' attempted censorship. The young activist recalls, "I asked our principal to look at the educational code under 'Religious Tolerance and Expression.' He wouldn't do that, but he confiscated our stuff just the same." Two members of the Conservative Club refused to take off their "Homosexuality is Sin" sweatshirts, and Bueler says they were suspended for the day as a result.

The leader of the conservative student group contends that the school administrators and teachers who tried to shut down the Day of Truth protest were actually demonstrating the intolerance that exists against biblical and conservative viewpoints. "They're just proving my point," he says.

"There's a liberal bias in public education," Bueler continues. "And not only that, but you have a day unto one group -- the Day of Silence, a pro-homosexual day supported by the school. And when any other group tries to demonstrate or have a day like they have, it's not tolerable."

The high school senior adds that his club is in contact with some Christian legal groups, who are going over the case to determine whether the students' First Amendment rights were violated.

School principal Mitchell Carter did not return calls requesting comments for this report. However, he was quoted in the local press as saying that the confiscated sweatshirts violated a school policy about messages on clothing "that represent bigotry and target particular protected classes" of students.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: conservativeclub; culturewars; dayoftruth; discrimination; homosexualagenda

1 posted on 04/13/2005 4:57:23 PM PDT by President of HSCCA Tim Bueler
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To: President of HSCCA Tim Bueler
"particular protected classes of students"

Isn't that special. Obviously, some are more equal than others.
2 posted on 04/13/2005 4:59:49 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: President of HSCCA Tim Bueler
I'm not crazy about "Homosexuality is Sin" signs and such, but isn't the campus the place for free expression and exchange of differing viewpoints?

I'm starting to think the main place where we fell down on the job was back in the "speech code" era. To me, that's when the academic class came out of the socialist closet, going from liberalism to outright Stalinist positions on speech. And we let it happen without much of a protest.

3 posted on 04/13/2005 5:01:32 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Yankee Agnostic Free-Speech Advocate)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Obviously, some are more equal than others.

Of course.

4 posted on 04/13/2005 5:03:29 PM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: President of HSCCA Tim Bueler

Let a judge figure out if the sweatshirts promoted bigotry and targeted a "protected" class of students.


5 posted on 04/13/2005 5:04:53 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: President of HSCCA Tim Bueler

Whatever you do, don't email the principal and tell him what you think.
mitchell_carter@crpusd.sonoma.edu


6 posted on 04/13/2005 5:04:56 PM PDT by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: President of HSCCA Tim Bueler

Equality for everyone but Christians. I so hope they sue and cost that school board millions of dollars. That is all they understand. They certainly don't understand laws.


7 posted on 04/13/2005 5:05:05 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: wolfpat

Thanks.


8 posted on 04/13/2005 5:06:02 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Darkwolf

I'm not crazy about it either and it's a step back for conservatives every time. Their timing and methods are unfortunate and you may as well put a bulls eye on your back.


9 posted on 04/13/2005 5:09:06 PM PDT by Bogeygolfer
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To: easymoney

Yeah, the shirts should say "God calls homosexuality a sin". Give credit where credit is due.


10 posted on 04/13/2005 5:14:10 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: easymoney

How do you arrive at that conclusion?


11 posted on 04/13/2005 5:16:48 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: mlc9852; President of HSCCA Tim Bueler; Carl/NewsMax; newsgatherer

"I so hope they sue and cost that school board millions of dollars."

AGREED. GO TIM! FIGHT BACK and let's make an example of this, Civil Rights violations....


12 posted on 04/13/2005 5:17:03 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: easymoney

Has anyone ever been convinced to stop being gay because someone wore a "Homosexuality is a sin" shirt? This is the kind of issue I think is being dealt with all wrong. The issue isn't homosexuality, it's indoctrination. A high school isn't the place to promote acceptance of one kind of sexuality over another, for Pete's sake. THAT should be the point of the protest.


13 posted on 04/13/2005 5:19:43 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Yankee Agnostic Free-Speech Advocate)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Yes. and it also implies some are unprotected. So why are the teachers so hell bent on leaving some students at risk?


14 posted on 04/13/2005 5:21:25 PM PDT by Old North State
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To: Darkwolf

I agree entirely. There are so many ways to address this issue and they had to choose one that is likely to not only fail in their objective but advance the other sides cause. They could have simply protested the day itself as opposed to the root cause. Then they could have held the high ground. You have to choose your battles wisely and I'm not interested in spending capital on a few kids wearing 'Homosexuality is a Sin' t-shirts. However much I disagree with the school in the first instance.


15 posted on 04/13/2005 5:25:29 PM PDT by Bogeygolfer
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To: Blurblogger

16 posted on 04/13/2005 5:28:04 PM PDT by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: President of HSCCA Tim Bueler
That's why it's so important to offer parents and students school choice. This idea of choosing a decent school for our kids needs to be kept alive.

No one should be exposed to things such as a homosexual sex day. It's absurd! What's next? "Proud to have sex with my dog day?"

17 posted on 04/13/2005 5:31:48 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: ladylib

Wouldn't you expect (in this day of judicial activism) that a judge will rule against those wearing the sweatshirts for some form of "hate crime?"


18 posted on 04/13/2005 5:33:14 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Not necessarily. There have been recent cases where judges have respected first amendment rights even if they aren't happy about it -- but who knows what will happen in the future.


19 posted on 04/13/2005 5:46:27 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: Darkwolf

[I'm not crazy about "Homosexuality is Sin" signs and such, but isn't the campus the place for free expression and exchange of differing viewpoints? ]

You must not have school-aged children. Hasn't been true for YEARS. Free expression is only granted to those who express the "correct" viewpoints. Point and counterpoint is considered aggressive and hateful.


20 posted on 04/13/2005 5:47:20 PM PDT by turnrightnow (bink's mom)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Four legs good. Two legs better.


21 posted on 04/13/2005 5:50:55 PM PDT by xusafflyer (Keep paying those taxes California. Mexico thanks you.)
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To: turnrightnow

I know that's been the case, that's why I went on to say we should have been more forceful back in the 80's when all this "speech codes" crap started.


22 posted on 04/13/2005 5:53:32 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Yankee Agnostic Free-Speech Advocate)
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To: Darkwolf

In today's world, Christians lose the homosexual argument every time when they ONLY use the religious rhetoric. I have watched them for years in TV debates, and the Christian side keeps repeating that homosexuality is a sin and not normal. They get crucified for being intolerant, ignorant, and "fringe", because they are arguing with secularists and unbelievers. What they say is true--the Bible does say it is an abomination.It also says these people will be destroyed by something whose seed of destructioin is in itself--I always thought this was AIDS.

Let some quote scriptures, but let others note that homosexuality has never done anything to further culture, nations,
family, or the practicing homosexual; it has done nothing for mankind. It HAS caused disease, promiscuity, discension, crime,
cultural decline, perversion of youth, and contributed to perversion of the language. It is historically a psychological problem. Any homosexual who has contributed to the human situation has done it in spite of being homosexual.

Lastly, and most importantly in this instance--because of the above mentioned problems to which homosexuality is a major contributor
it has NO BUSINESS being honored at schools.

vaudine


24 posted on 04/13/2005 6:01:52 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: President of HSCCA Tim Bueler
However, he was quoted in the local press as saying that the confiscated sweatshirts violated a school policy about messages on clothing "that represent bigotry and target particular protected classes" of students.

The promotion and celebration of homosexual activity in public schools in and of itself targets traditional Christian believers who believe and have a right to believe that homosexual activity is sinful.

25 posted on 04/13/2005 6:17:07 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: President of HSCCA Tim Bueler
"There's a liberal bias in public education," Bueler continues. "And not only that, but you have a day unto one group -- the Day of Silence, a pro-homosexual day supported by the school. And when any other group tries to demonstrate or have a day like they have, it's not tolerable."

Ahh, so young and yet so wise.

I feel there still may be hope for the next generation.

26 posted on 04/13/2005 6:49:55 PM PDT by mountn man
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To: little jeremiah; EdReform; DirtyHarryY2K; Clint N. Suhks

ping.


27 posted on 04/13/2005 7:14:18 PM PDT by DBeers ()
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To: mountn man
I feel there still may be hope for the next generation.

In Upstate NY, teenagers use the word "gay" to describe anything weird, sickening, gross, or demented.
It's a good thing. The smart kids are getting it. They're not deceived.

28 posted on 04/13/2005 8:24:36 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: wolfpat; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...
Whatever you do, don't email the principal and tell him what you think.
mitchell_carter@crpusd.sonoma.edu

And do not call, fax or email Rancho Cotate High School described on this page: A dissenting student hounded for his views . Don't do it!

29 posted on 04/13/2005 8:30:38 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: Darkwolf
but isn't the campus the place for free expression and exchange of differing viewpoints?

Only for the viewpoints differing from the normal.

30 posted on 04/13/2005 8:31:50 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Tim Bueler, 18, president of the club



Bueler !!!!!

Bueler!!!!!!
31 posted on 04/13/2005 8:32:39 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

More on the Rohnert Park conservative students' protest against the "Day of Silence" pro-homosexual indoctrination and promotion day, authorized by government schools and OUR tax dollars.

(Why don't the homosexuals make EVERY day a "Day of Silence"?)

I think the students sue, big time. There are a lot of organizations that might take this on.

Let DirtyHarryY2K and me know if you want on/off this pinglist.

(Note to Time Bueler - did the pro-homosexual students have pro-homosexual messages on their shirts? And if so, were their shirts confiscated, or just yours? Let us know what happens!)


32 posted on 04/14/2005 1:24:33 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: ladylib

"Let a judge figure out if..."

These days? The judge will hang the protestors just for wearing a shirt with words on it!


33 posted on 04/14/2005 4:30:06 AM PDT by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: vaudine

With Lefties, I tend to use the argument that it is Darwinistically disadvantageous behavior, both for the individual and for society, and should be discouraged for that reason, not encouraged.

This tends to make smoke come out of their ears.


34 posted on 04/14/2005 4:42:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: Blurblogger; mlc9852
"I so hope they sue and cost that school board millions of dollars."

...and the school board has all sorts of money...OUR MONEY! Just fire the idiots, and put back the laws that protect us against the insidious evils of homosexuals. At the very least, I want them BACK IN THE CLOSET, rather than in my face, AND MY CHILDREN'S FACE! Maybe there will be a new salt pile...

35 posted on 04/14/2005 4:49:50 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: little jeremiah
Why don't the homosexuals make EVERY day a "Day of Silence"?

That could work!

36 posted on 04/14/2005 5:36:29 AM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: Texas_Jarhead

hate speech legislations and other leftist mumbo jumbo has always had the effect of creating a group of people that were "more equal than others". Orwell is/was a genius beyond his time.


37 posted on 04/14/2005 6:14:58 AM PDT by timtoews5292004
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To: FreedomPoster

LOL!! Sometimes smoking is a good thing.

vaudine


38 posted on 04/14/2005 8:17:11 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: concerned about politics

Real choice would be the elimination of government schools.


39 posted on 04/14/2005 8:25:26 AM PDT by Protagoras (Christ is risen.)
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To: pageonetoo; mlc9852; EdReform; Born Conservative; BykrBayb; Mr. Silverback; Liz; bd476

I agree it IS our money, I disagree on just firing, because:

A mere firing will NOT get the MSM attention like a huge lawsuit or award will -- we need the awareness and attention of the PUBLIC and their outrage for this to have the maximum 'chilling effect' on such Marxist antifreespeech thugs.

A few million dollars in a propaganda/PR battle of this size and importance is a drop in the bucket and in context, may be well spent American tax dollars.


40 posted on 04/14/2005 8:30:04 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: President of HSCCA Tim Bueler; Jay777; cybersaint

PING


41 posted on 04/14/2005 1:01:43 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: loboinok

Thanks for the ping Lobo!


42 posted on 04/14/2005 1:40:05 PM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.blogspot.com)
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To: mlc9852

The ADF has promised to represent free of charge, any student who wants to sue!


43 posted on 04/14/2005 2:43:08 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: President of HSCCA Tim Bueler

INTREP - Education - campus chaos


44 posted on 04/14/2005 9:01:44 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: President of HSCCA Tim Bueler; EdReform; DBeers; scripter; little jeremiah; DirtyHarryY2K
PING
45 posted on 04/15/2005 1:14:53 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (WARNING: EXPOSURE TO THE SON MAY PREVENT BURNING.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; ArGee; lentulusgracchus; SweetCaroline; Lindykim; longtermmemmory

Thanks for the link. Very interesting!


46 posted on 04/15/2005 1:42:09 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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