Scientists Analyze Chromosomes 2 and 4: Discover Largest "Gene Deserts"

National Human Genome Research Institute ^ | 06 April 2005 | Staff

[Echo Talon]

So God intentionally created evidence pointing to evolution as an attempt to fool humans?

I do believe that their are hurdles to test faith. You have read Job haven't you?

[Echo Talon]

You do know that pride is a sin, right?

Well, I know how to read better than I know how to type :P The bible is very clear that God created man in his image. If you think god is an ape you can believe that.

[Echo Talon]

But the rigid interpretation of Genesis that some, but not all, Christians hold that we call "creationism"

I call it Intelligent Design.

[Echo Talon]

It damages our credibility, and distracts us (with fights over science classroom content) from working on political goals that are attainable, like proper Supreme Court judges and SS reform.

LOL! What a moronic statement. You believe in god thats a distraction that make keeps us from working of SS reform! WAH WAH! OMG!

[Echo Talon]

Are there heathens here? Where? How do you know?

It was a joke denoted with this ":P" :P HAR HAR

[sakic]

I hope that you will avail yourself the opportunity to remind some of the evos on this board of that when they become to strident and dogmatic.

Very true. Evos don't have the scientific evidence available to the Creos who base everything on a book written by men.

Some people swear that the Bible is the Written word of God. Yet, when confronted by passages advocating slave ownership and beating they explain that the "times were different" then.

Hard to think of God as a moral relativist, but what do us Evos know.

[bert]

Darwin was just the starting point. The genenome sequencing is going to trash the creationist unbelief.

[PatrickHenry]

The genenome sequencing is going to trash the creationist unbelief.

Well, it's certainly a trove of evidence which supports evolution, but we've already accumulated mountains of evidence for the last 150 years, and although the science community is convinced of the theory's value, nothing has made the slightest impression on creationism. I suspect that will continue to be the situation.

[firebrand]

Isn't it beautiful?

[microgood]

This is the usual answer that comes from basic ID theory. It's no surprise that most folks don't have much use for it.

Yes but sometimes it is better than saying you know things you don't. That is the biggest problem with the scientific community today, whether it be evolution or global warming or epidemiological studies, you claim to know things you do not.

You claim you know how the old the world is and how old rocks are (there are massive assumptions in radiometric dating). You claim to know how life evolved over millions of years(assuming correlation = causation).

You claim all this and yet noone in the evolutionary world can explain how a creature without legs or arms came to have them, except the standard old mutation and natural selection with a bit of punctuated equilibrium added or not, depending on your preference and my all time favorite, which is that an arm or leg had some other function until it finally became an arm.

I think Michael Crighton was right when he said magicians love scientists the most because they are the easiest to fool, because they fancy themselves as being objective.

[exDemMom]

Implying that women don't have this protein?

Only if they don't have brains.

[exDemMom]

This technology also allows us to sequence proteins, which was a real arduous task in the old days

Nope, it only allows the prediction of sequence. If you want to know the actual sequence, you still have to do it the tedious way.

[exDemMom]

The fact that we have similar genes with a rat does not mean we evolved from a rat.

Nope, it means that we evolved from a common ancestor.

[exDemMom]

"centromere" I don't use the metric system, what's this about half an inche?

The centromere is the little connecting structure that holds 2 matching chromosomes together (at least, until mitosis or meiosis occurs). When you see a picture of chromosomes that look like X's, the centromere is where the X's cross.

[microgood]

Nope, it means that we evolved from a common ancestor.

Correlation does not equal causation, as you claim it does.

[exDemMom]

The only thing this "science" does is confuse people about their faith.

I, for one, am not confused. Neither are my colleagues, who practice a variety of faiths. The theory of evolution for us is just a tool, and has nothing to do with faith.

[Echo Talon]

This is a tired argument and your "theory" is just that. Wild speculation and innuendo, assuming this that the other thing draw conclusions only to what you want to believe. As I said before you believe what you want, I will believe what I want. I won't lose any sleep over it.

[exDemMom]

Correlation does not equal causation, as you claim it does.

Correlation is a statistical term, and I do not recall using that word today in the context of evolution. Nor did I make a claim about correlation equaling causation, since I do not use the term for that purpose at all (and I do use the term frequently). I'm not even sure how the concept of correlation applies here. We talk about sequence homology--the mouse and rat gene xyz have 97% homology, while the human gene is only 93% homologous to that of mouse or rat, etc. Evolution can be traced by comparing the homology of genes across various species.

[AmishDude]

Biologists...riding in the short bus of science.

[furball4paws]

I stand corrected, but the prediction is usually pretty damn good, especially in bacteria (my area).