Posted on 04/13/2005 6:20:23 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
I am not lying and I resent your implication that I am.
His ways are above our ways, which can look like moral relativism to someone who is not willing to know Him.
IF it means what they say, but again it can only show where the cut and paste was done (or something that looks like a c and p). There observations can't say what force did the cutting and pasting.
Besides, they act like it was NOT established before their research, so if they are right then the evos on this board were wrong to claim it was. If they are wrong about the importance of the evidence then why should I believe their evidence?
I am not lying and I resent your implication that I am.Well, I sincerely hope I can apologize for implying that you were lying, but first you'll have to back up this (reckless, IMO) statement of yours:
they write like evolution is a proven fact and to believe otherwise makes you "demon-possessed". If you are a new poster on this board you may not believe that, but that is the term they use to people who fail to interpret the evidence the way they think we should.Just who is this "they" who use the term "demon-possessed" in referring to you anti-evolutionists? You made a general statement that this is a commonly used term by us. Specifically, that it's common usage, and that it's been used by more than one evolutionist (i.e. not just an individual hotheaded post you once saw).
It is a good thing that you put humor tags on your jokes. However the more normal technique to inspire laughter in the reader is to say something funny.
So, what do you think His position is on for example slavery and the stoning of disobedient children? The God of the bible clearly endorsed these practices in the past. Does he still endorse them?
Har har! whoo hoo your a real knee slapper. You must be one devoted atheist for you to be this upset that I don't believe your theory.
Either you believe the Bible is the literal word of God or not. Do you? If so, you believe that God thinks it fine to own and beat slaves. If not, then you're admitting the Bible is a book written by man.
ID proponents will disagree with you then. You do know that the ID movement believes that the earth is billions of years old, that evolution occurs, and that man and modern apes are descendents of a common ape-like ancestor. Seems like you wouldn't want to associate yourself with the ID movement any more than you would with evolution. The only difference (as far as I can tell) between ID and evolution is that ID adds an intelligent entity to guide the process, while evolution doesn't require any entity outside the living creatures on earth.
well who created the first piece of "mega sperm" that started it all Einstein?
Yet you do the very same thing in your post #231. I don't know if you realize it but you sound just like an evolutionary biologist. ;)
In general, scientists are very aware of the limits of knowledge in their field. However, the media filter makes things sound very strange and there are people with a political agenda who will use anything to get their way. When scientists exact words are quoted here on FR, creationists complain that they use words like "seems to", "it's probable that", or "this evidence suggests". So you can't have it both ways.
In the case of organisms growing arms and legs, Ichneumon's post documents the fossil evidence of this occurring. Alternative points of view to evolution don't address the fossil record. That's why I was being satirical about the previous poster's ID prediction.
The problem for anti-science is that there is an enormous amount of fossil evidence. More than any one individual could view in their lifetime. Creationists can't address it. They're still looking for the origins of seaweed. ID'ers can't address it because they have a rhetorical argument, not a theory. They're still struggling to understand complexity. So they've chosen to pick on something well documented, like the development of flagella or eyes (there are over 3500 different kinds), but have ignored truly complex structures like the brain.
Evolutionary biology is still the best explanation. And our understanding of how this works is growing daily. If we're lucky, we'll be here long enough to see a pill that can grow someone a new kidney. But who knows.
So, God has two arms, two legs, genitalia and He has to defecate, eat and breathe?
Or, could it be that "made in God's image" means that humans are thinking beings with free will, just like their creator?
The origins of life is not something the TOE covers.
I wonder how God did those things before He created a physical universe? Still, at least He didn't look like an ape, or anything disgusting like that.
I wonder what He wore? Or did He strut around naked? What color hair does He have? How tall is He?
Is He a lefty or a righty? Does He have knee and back problems like many humans?
The idea that an all-powerful, all-knowing deity would look anything like the hairless apes He created is laughable.
hairless deity placemarker
Yup! It clearly is *not* a science text.
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