Skip to comments.Pompei Discovery For Swedish Archaeologists
Posted on 04/17/2005 1:36:52 PM PDT by blam
Published: 17th April 2005 11:48 BST+1
Pompei discovery for Swedish archeologists
(AFP) Swedish archeologists have discovered a Stone Age settlement covered in ash under the ruins of the ancient city of Pompei, indicating that the volcano Vesuvius engulfed the area in lava more than 3,500 years before the famous 79 AD eruption.
The archeologists recently found burnt wood and grains of corn in the earth under Pompei, Anne-Marie Leander Touati, a professor of archeology at Stockholm University who led the team, told AFP.
"Carbon dating shows that the finds are from prehistoric times, that is, from 3,500 years BC," Leander Touati said. It was until now believed that Pompei was first inhabited during the Bronze Age.
The group of archeologists - part of a larger international project - were mapping a Roman neighbourhood of Pompei when they made the discovery.
"It was a real fluke," Leander Touati said, explaining that the group was emptying a well to determine its use when it made the find.
"We realized that the well was a lot deeper than we thought, and we sent a guy down into the well. He moved some of the earth and suddenly he was in prehistoric times," she said.
The Stone Age remains were covered in a thick layer of ash. On top of that a a layer of ceramic shards was found, which according to Leander Touati could be from the Bronze Age. Additional geological layers lay on top of that, and on top of it all were the ruins of Pompei.
Pompei was covered in lava when Vesuvius erupted in 79 AD. The excellently preserved ruins have become one of the world's most visited archaeological sites.
Leander Touati said her group was now planning the next step.
"We're going down there again," she said.
Note to self - never live near volcanoes.
It must be a lovely spot, the volcano notwithstanding, to have attracted so many settlements through the ages.
I have always felt that in a previous life, I lived and died in Pompei when Vesuvius erupted in 79 AD. I am series.
I wonder when Vesuvius is due to erupt again?
Nobody's ever reported living and dying in The Bronx in a previous life. It's always someplace famous and cool.
Discovery Channel: BUT IN 4 YEARS THE SUPER VOLCANO IS GOING TO GET EVERYONE!
I didn't do it.
Not only that, all the people I know who "recover" past lives just happened to be kings or queens in those glamorous places. Nobody ever claims to have been an apprentice tanner with bad acne, living in hickville...
Probably before Jan. 20, 2009...That so it will be Bush's fault
Pompeii was NOT covered in lava but rather in ash.Lava would have destroyed completely all that neat stuff which renders the place a well stocked museum.
In my previous lives, I was a drunk. So in my present life, I only drink on weekends or weekdays.
One of the most beautiful in the world.
Did they actually state that or are you making that up?
I read some book a long time back and the woman was supposed to have been a prostitute in the old west! Not exactly glamorous. Didn't say if she had ance though.
Discovery ran a "Documentary" It was more like something from the producer of the day after tomarrarow. In it, Yellowstone became a super volcano and destroyed half the world.
The headline was... "This is a true story it just hasnt happened yet"
I've always had an eerie sensation that I died in Lockerbie. Ive had dreams I was on the flight. Remember faces. And was concieved days after the Disaster. Weird eh?
Living near an active volcano can be a real pain in the ash !
The Swedes are good at this kind of stuff- I just watched a movie about them going to the center of the earth and finding a giant lake and dinosaurs- until they got blown out of a volcano.
A high-school buddy of mine died on that plane. Did you know him?
"The headline was... "This is a true story it just hasnt happened yet">/i>
I saw this documentary, the only thing 'technically' I saw wrong with it was that it was too optimsitic, they didn't even consider the 'nuclear winter' scenario. It has erupted at least three times. The last time it erupted, it deposited six feet of ash in Nebraska.
One of the best explanations, from a Christian perspective, that I have heard is: Demons are spiritual beings that predate Eden and have always had the ability to possess mankind. Demons are also personalities with a memory and carry with themselves memories from their own past. The memories of the demoniac become intermingled with the possessed person's memories and the person then perceives, in a shadowy, vague way, the past memories of the demonic entity as being their own. So that a possessed person then can remember existing in the past as the same or different sex, in a different place and time. Scripture teaches that legions of demons are able to possess the same person at the same time. Later the same legions can be dispersed and possessing many different others. So that many people can in fact seem to have the same past-life memories of being a particular person in the past.
I also think that demons are more likely to pursue possessing notables like Hitler, Alexander the Great, Saddam Hussein etc...
Very cool finding.
find later bump
For serious students of history in general and Pompeii in particular...
Look at the mound of "Troy's" at the Dardanelles.
I think I was one of those poor grunts lugging big blocks of stone up to the top of a big pointy thing in a previous life... Oh, wait a minute. Thats *THIS* life...
I think I saw that on TV once. Didn't Satan shove a pineapple up Hitler's you know what?
I can't remember.
Bronze Age VillageA prehistoric village has been uncovered near Pompeii, more than 3,500 years after it was buried by Mount Vesuvius as the Roman city was centuries later. Experts called the find at Nola, near Naples, "sensational" and said the site could be the world's best preserved early Bronze Age village. The site is north of both Pompeii and Vesuvius, and suggests that the community was thriving when it was surprised by the eruption. Wooden structures in the village were destroyed by the heat but the mud that filled the buildings created a natural mould of everything they contained. Archaeologists believe that a man and a woman whose skeletons were dug up five years ago had been trying to escape from the village during the eruption.
Thursday 29 November 2001Move Over, PompeiiAlthough much of the structure of the prehistoric huts was destroyed by the eruption, falling ash and volcanic mud hardened to create a kind of mold of the village in reverse, much like the casts of the victims of Vesuvius' more famous eruption. In addition to the remains of actual huts, which go far beyond the usual post holes, director Giuseppe Vecchio and his team have also excavated a rich array of finds that reveal much about domestic life at the time. Since Nola is only 7.5 miles from the volcano, people probably did not have time to pack before the eruption, and left behind cooking utensils, drinking cups, hunting tools, a hat decorated with wild boars' teeth, and a pot waiting to be fired in the kiln. Evidence for their diet has also been found, including pig, sheep, and cow bones, pots full of grain, and a pen, elevated six feet off the ground and filled with the bones of pregnant goats.
by Jarrett A. Lobell
March/April 2002Nola: A Prehistoric "Pompeii"To date, five Bronze Age villages have been found near Vesuvius. "Obviously there were more," said Stefano de Caro, director of the Naples Archaeological Museum. "This shows how densely settled the area was even in prehistoric times." But de Caro also noted that the Nola site is by far the most complete Bronze Age village yet found: "This is the first time [in Italy] we have found everything together: the dead, dwellings, crafts, customs, food."
by Judith HarrisBronze-Age VeniceThere is evidence of stilt houses and drainage systems, and the settlements' small islets are separated by artificial canals whose edges were strengthened with vertical logs later replaced by squared timbers... The islets, joined by bridges, may have eventually been home to as many as 2,000 people and were enlarged several times over the centuries to accommodate the community's growing population. The remains of wooden huts, stands for dugout canoes, furnishings, as well as evidence of bronze and perhaps amber working, have also been found. The site was abandoned during sixth-century floods and mudslides, and scholars say it is possible that the deserters of Poggiomarino were, in fact, the founders of Pompeii.
by Jarrett A. Lobell
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I 'd say the people who have ridiculed Homer's reference to Boar's Tooth Helmets have some explaining to do. It appears they became fashionable throughout the Mediterranean long before the Trojan War.
ha ha ha
I'm now dumber than before I read the article at the end of that link.
LOL, me too. I think KamperKen has been sitting a little to close to the Kamp fire.
It still is.
The headline was... "This is a true story it just hasnt happened yet"
It happened three times before, the last time was some 600,000 years ago.
Pompei is one of the places I want to go before I die....
I just get chills when I see pictures of how everything was caught in time. Now there is an second settlement...WOW!
Be still my heart!
"Pompei is one of the places I want to go before I die...."
When you eventually get to Pompeii, be sure to schedule Herculaneum as well (the modern town of "Ercolano"). It's smaller but much better preserved. Most tourists seem to miss it, which is unfortunate.
I remember how excited I was the day I went to Pompeii, and I wasn't disappointed. Also, the best preserved sculpture from the classical world is to be seen at the museum in Naples.
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"I am series."
But was the eruption HUGH?
From what I've read, a pyroclastic blast is overdue.
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I went to both Pompeii and Herculaneum early in July this year. I was actually stunned by the size of Pompeii. When they say it was a city, they mean it was a CITY. I think I expected a few square blocks (like what you get with Herculaneum) but in actuality, it took us a long time to walk from the coliseum back to the entrance. You could spend a couple of days before seeing the whole place. We barely made a dent. The concrete casts of the victims are no longer there, except for two in glass cases.
The day after, we climbed Vesuvius. You can see the remnants of the old cone, and how much was just blown apart. Vesuvius is quiet now, but I saw pictures of WWII Allied bombers flying near it with lots of smoke and ash in the air. If it has lots of little burps, nothing too terrible will come of it. But if it goes like in 79......well, even with a bit of warning, lots of people will die because that is a very densely populated area, and the Italians can’t form a queue in the best of times. An evacuation will be a train wreck.