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Complaints filed over live-birth abortion.
World Net Daily ^ | April 29, 2005 | Ron Strom

Posted on 04/29/2005 12:37:42 AM PDT by tame

MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
Complaints filed over live-birth abortion Mother of boy who died hopes to hold Florida clinic accountable

Posted: April 29, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Ron Strom
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

A legal group representing a woman who says abortion-clinic employees refused to help her baby boy when he was born alive in a restroom has filed two complaints against the facility with Florida state regulatory agencies.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the mother, Angele, who asked that her last name not be used, traveled from out of state to the EPOC Clinic of the Orlando Women's Center in Orlando, Fla., for a second-trimester abortion.

She claims on the first day she visited the clinic staff failed to inject the unborn baby with digoxin, a drug that stops his or her heart in preparation for what amounts to a stillborn birth.

After taking labor-inducing drugs the next morning, Angele arrived at the clinic and was left alone in a cold "delivery room." Her labor increased greatly, she says, and she delivered the 22-week-along baby in the restroom.

Angele says she saw that her son was moving and cried for help, but that a staff member discounted her claim and refused to do anything to help the baby. According to his mother, the boy, whom she named Rowan, died about 11 minutes after birth.

"Amazingly, during this entire process, no physician was even present at the abortion clinic," said a statement from Liberty Counsel, the pro-life law organization that is representing Angele.

Liberty Counsel says it has filed complaints with the Florida Department of Health and the Florida Agency for Health Care Administration

The complaint filed Wednesday with the Department of Health is against Harry Perper, M.D., who performed the first-day procedures but was not present the second day, and against James Pendergraft, M.D., who owns and supervises the clinic.

Said Liberty Counsel: "Several violations of Florida laws are detailed in the complaint. Among the violations are the complete absence of a doctor during the abortion procedure, causing a death certificate to improperly state that Rowan was stillborn, and a complete lack of post-operative care. After the procedure, Angele was rushed out the door and received no follow-up care. Importantly, Angele did not receive a rhogam shot, which was medically necessary for her, given her blood type."

The complaint filed with the Agency for Health Care Administration details the same violations of state law as the Department of Health complaint, but also focuses on the unsanitary conditions of the clinic. Angele says the room in the clinic had dried blood on the floor and the walls and a used, bloody cotton ball on the floor.

"We are hopeful that these complaints will lead to immediate change in the form of discipline against the doctors and revocation of the abortion license for the clinic," said Mathew Staver, president and general counsel of Liberty Counsel. "But we are also hopeful that these complaints will serve as the catalyst for long-term change. Abortion clinics are the least regulated medical facilities in the state of Florida. That needs to change. It is a travesty that tattoo parlors are more heavily regulated than abortion clinics.

"These doctors need to be held accountable for their actions, and we intend to pursue these complaints to that end. Part of promoting a culture of life in America means holding abortion doctors and clinics accountable when they violate the law."

The Rev. Patrick Mahoney of the Christian Defense Coalition has planned a press conference for this morning in front of the EPOC Clinic to protest what happened to Angele.

"It is barbarous to realize that this young child could have been saved if only clinic personnel had responded in a professional and timely manner," Mahoney said in a statement. "This tragic death shows that abortion clinics across the country are not committed to 'choice' as they often state, for the mother wanted to save this child, but rather are dedicated to a culture of death that results in violence against children and the exploitation of women. We are calling for a full investigation into this horrific death and pray that action is taken that would prevent it from ever happening again."

Said Troy Newman, director of pro-life group Operation Rescue: "Baby Rowan failed to receive compassion and justice in his short life here on earth. So together with his mother, Operation Rescue, will work passionately to ensure he receives the justice he clearly deserves. We are calling for the prosecution of all those involved in this horrible crime and are imploring officials to use all legal avenues available to them. This would include, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act passed by Congress."

A week ago, the Bush administration said it would begin enforcing the 3-year-old Born-Alive Infant Protection Act, which requires doctors to attempt to keep alive a baby that survives an abortion.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionsurvivors; baipa; bornalive; cary; libertycounsel; livebirthabortion; prochoice; prolife
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1 posted on 04/29/2005 12:37:43 AM PDT by tame
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To: Jim Robinson; lara; shield; Mama_Bear; Java Guy; truthtracker; lavender; Latinwarrior; ...

ping


2 posted on 04/29/2005 12:40:19 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame

I don't have words for this.


3 posted on 04/29/2005 12:42:04 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: EternalVigilance; k2blader; Aquinasfan; Antoninus; Cordova Belle; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ...

ping


4 posted on 04/29/2005 12:44:45 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: F.J. Mitchell; B Knotts; zeaal; dead; copycat; FrdmLvr

ping


5 posted on 04/29/2005 12:47:38 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Pharmer; MrChips; CounterCounterCulture; Wait4Truth; McGavin999; prisoner6; harbingr; ...

fyi--please ping anyone who may be interested in this. thanks.


6 posted on 04/29/2005 1:02:50 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
the clinic staff failed to inject the unborn baby with digoxin, a drug that stops his or her heart

I have posted before on this same issue and remain torn. Anyone who cannot save a suffering baby is worthless scum.

That being said, the state of Flordia should bring criminal charges against the people who were on duty at this meat market that day. As for the mother, this child would not have spent his only 11 minutes on earth in the toilet of a filthy abortion mill if she had not made an appointment, paid for, and traveled there for only one purpose: to kill her son. Now that her son is dead, she wants to blame somebody else.

Court battles are a real inconvenience too.

7 posted on 04/29/2005 1:05:05 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: tame

Must have been quite the reality check for Angele when her "just a fetus" started to cry, huh?

She went there to have them kill her baby and is suing them because she contends they killed her baby?


8 posted on 04/29/2005 1:08:13 AM PDT by glock rocks (For the love of all that's good and decent, don't try this at home)
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To: tame
"It is barbarous to realize that this young child could have been saved if only clinic personnel had responded in a professional and timely mannerif only the mother had not gone there in the first place with the sole intent to kill her child.

Somebody get real. These people work to kill babies. Their only objective is to kill the babies of women who go to these clinics of their own free will for the sole purpose of killing the baby. These are not neonatal intensive care nurses. They are trained to assist in abortions.

9 posted on 04/29/2005 1:11:38 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus; little jeremiah; I still care; Fan_Of_Ingraham; Salvation; livius; ...
This is a follow up story to the earlier story: Abortion staff ignores baby born alive.

PLEASE PING your respective lists of anyone who may be interested in this. thanks.

10 posted on 04/29/2005 1:23:51 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame

God, have mercy.


11 posted on 04/29/2005 1:25:56 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: glock rocks; PistolPaknMama
Must have been quite the reality check for Angele when her "just a fetus" started to cry, huh?

Exactly!

She went there to have them kill her baby and is suing them because she contends they killed her baby?

The irony, huh?

12 posted on 04/29/2005 1:27:02 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: PistolPaknMama; glock rocks; All
in spite of the irony of the bizarre utter selfishness of the mother and then her grief, i STRONGLY support Liberty Councel's complaint. i hope they sock it to this Florida death mill.

please keep this up front in the news so the fence sitters may be forced off the fence.

13 posted on 04/29/2005 1:36:38 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Jim Robinson; Aquinasfan; All
Rev. Patrick Mahoney: abortion clinics across the country are not committed to 'choice' as they often state, for the mother wanted to save this child, but rather are dedicated to a culture of death that results in violence against children and the exploitation of women.

AMEN! That says it all.

14 posted on 04/29/2005 1:38:05 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
What on earth is going on when the state orders a woman to be starved to death by doctors and doctors trained to kill babies won't save a baby who is born? To make things more obtuse, the mother of the baby (a.k.a. "the woman who was going to the doctors specifically to have her baby killed by them") sues the doctors for basically doing what she was going to have them do anyway!

Either the world's going nuts or I am having a really bad dream.
15 posted on 04/29/2005 1:40:18 AM PDT by HowardDeanScream08
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To: rintense

long time no see :o) i thought you might find this interesting :o(


16 posted on 04/29/2005 1:40:20 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: HowardDeanScream08
What on earth is going on when the state orders a woman to be starved to death by doctors and doctors trained to kill babies won't save a baby who is born?

scuse the hyperbole, but we owe joe stalin, hitler and the rest an apology if we let this continue.

Either the world's going nuts or I am having a really bad dream.

i am dead serious. Rod Serling could not come up with a better plot for the twilight zone than the truths you pointed out.

17 posted on 04/29/2005 1:44:48 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
Post traumatic Abortion disorder. See? They have a diagnosis for the madness.
18 posted on 04/29/2005 1:48:02 AM PDT by MaxMax (GOD BLESS AMERICA)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

here's a story you might find interesting.


19 posted on 04/29/2005 1:58:03 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: cougor
i saw this story eleswhere, can't remember the link,but it had pics of the dead baby etc

HERE!

21 posted on 04/29/2005 2:07:53 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame

This chick is looking at nothing but the money and her 15 minutes of fame.


23 posted on 04/29/2005 2:56:00 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: freeangel

I would love to see it be mandatory for the "fetal tissue", to be placed in a clear plastic container. Require the mother that would have been to properly dispose of her deed.


24 posted on 04/29/2005 3:35:57 AM PDT by Phoneman
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To: tame

"AMEN! That says it all."

Agreed!

And who knows, with the state of ignorance in this country, and the lies happily told to women by the professional baby killers, this woman may indeed have been extremely shocked and surprised when her fetus started to move and cry. She may have expected to give up something resembling tripe or scrambled eggs and then to see a recognizable baby, well, it must have been a real mind f*ck for her, excuse my language.

I hope they prevail to the utmost in their suit, but I have my doubts, this being Florida, which, Jeb Bush notwithstanding and all the fine people in the State, seems to want to become a death factory above all else.


25 posted on 04/29/2005 4:11:03 AM PDT by jocon307 (CVCVMELLA CAFEARIA CLAVSA EST)
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To: tame; rhema; xzins

The status of abortion in our country is, literally, insanity.

If she wants it killed, it's a thing.

If she wants it, it's a baby.

Magic!

Insanity.

And there are folks right here on FR who are OK with that.

Dan


26 posted on 04/29/2005 4:29:56 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: tame

Kansas Governor Sebelius just vetoed a bill that would require minimum licensing for abortion clinics. And the legislature failed to override her veto.


27 posted on 04/29/2005 5:02:19 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: freeangel
This chick is looking at nothing but the money and her 15 minutes of fame.

Even so, the Lord works in mysterious ways. She may be a vehicle by which that Florida death mill will be crunched.

28 posted on 04/29/2005 5:20:21 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: jocon307

i agree.


29 posted on 04/29/2005 5:21:35 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: BibChr
If she wants it killed, it's a thing.

If she wants it, it's a baby.

Magic! Insanity. And there are folks right here on FR who are OK with that.

you NAILED it. Insanity.

30 posted on 04/29/2005 5:23:08 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
"in spite of the irony of the bizarre utter selfishness of the mother and then her grief, i STRONGLY support Liberty Councel's complaint. i hope they sock it to this Florida death mill."

Perefctly said.

I agree with you.

31 posted on 04/29/2005 5:54:43 AM PDT by chs68
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To: tame

Barbarism.


32 posted on 04/29/2005 6:15:53 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("But he who sins against me wrongs his own soul; All those who hate me love death.")
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To: SkyPilot

I have just one: evil.


33 posted on 04/29/2005 7:16:08 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: tame
"It is barbarous to realize that this young child could have been saved if only clinic personnel had responded in a professional and timely manner,"

They did respond in a professional manner. Their profession is destroying lives not saving them.

34 posted on 04/29/2005 7:31:49 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: SkyPilot; Sun; eeevil conservative; Fam4Bush; Future Useless Eater; FairOpinion; ...

Nor do I!


live abortion ping


35 posted on 04/29/2005 8:15:24 AM PDT by IleeneWright
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To: freeangel
This chick is looking at nothing but the money and her 15 minutes of fame.

You're probably right; but isn't it possible she had a terrible moment of truth when that tiny boy opened his mouth and cried?

--that in that moment she discovered the lie of Planned Parenthood propaganda, and realized that the unviable tissue mass, aka "fetus," really was her child?

36 posted on 04/29/2005 8:36:58 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (The 'right to choose' = The right to choose death --for somebody else.)
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To: PistolPaknMama

Thanks for making us aware of the personal responsibility of this woman as well. The abortion supporters always ask well are you going to jail the abortion seeking women?


She complains that the hired assasin didn't kill the baby in her womb before she could see him but yet after he was born she could see him wanted him to live.

AS long as abortion is legal and a recognized business, she cannot be tried for doing something legal.

Abortion will end when all doctors adhere to the original Hypocratic Oath. Abortionists are like drug dealers. Police try to cut out the dealer. If we cut off the supply of abortionists women would be forced to self abort and as we have seen can be tried for manslaughter.

We know that many women do die when they go to state sanctioned killing centers ( A fact that is under reported) just as some women would die when they self abort. But that would become her "choice and her responsibility."

The consequences of her "Choice" would then fall solely upon her and knowing the consequences of her actions would be a huge deterrent in having sex outside of marriage.

You should read the case against this abortionist on extortion,libel and threats to sue a Florida town if they refuse his attempt to open another clinic. This death merchant owns the Ocala Women's Center and four other clinics, in Orlando, Tampa and Fort Lauderdale, all of which perform abortions as reported in Ocala Star Banner, Friday, January 12, 2001.


Read and weep the rulings of our out of control judiciary.

USA V PENDERGRAFT

http://www.forerunner.com/fyi/news/osb072501.htm


37 posted on 04/29/2005 9:11:51 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: victim soul

interesting link! coincidentally, this morning a friend was telling me about Pendergraft's jail time.


38 posted on 04/29/2005 10:42:05 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: shhrubbery!; I still care
--that in that moment she discovered the lie of Planned Parenthood propaganda, and realized that the unviable tissue mass, aka "fetus," really was her child?

but the mother was already fullly aware of this--maybe more so than many women having abortions.

to illustrate, the following is a post from a freeper known as i still care from the other related thread to this story. this post sums it all up (and thank you, i-still-care, for condensing angele's quotes in a powerful way:

To: tame
Often I have sympathy for these women because I truly feel they are deceived about the nature of the baby. I've seen clinics lie their faces off about what the "products of conception" are.

This story makes me sick. It's very, very clear she knew she was murdering someone, masked in her concern that the baby didn't suffer.

Note the following statements:

"I told them that I had made previous arrangements for him to be picked up by the funeral director."

"I could feel the baby still moving. I told my friend this worried me. I remember thinking it must take time to slow down and stop his heart."

"I wanted it to be as humane and painless as possible for my son," she said, choking back tears. "They told me they would guide a needle directly into his heart and it would put him to sleep, and he wouldn't feel anything."

"I was concerned that it would hurt the baby as it generally (from what I've read) burns the skin and lungs. I expressed my concerns that he not suffer or feel anything."

"Although 'labor and delivery' is most difficult on the mother," she explained, "it seemed to be the best choice for my son. And it would allow the opportunity for my son to be born whole, stillborn, and I could hold him and grieve him and have him cremated."

"I chose Bible verses for his service and everything."

My God, did she she think she was at the vet thinking she was having a dog put to sleep? She absolutely knew she was killing her own son. She is a true murderess. I don't care what her rationale was.

39 posted on 04/29/2005 10:51:08 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: victim soul
She complains that the hired assasin didn't kill the baby in her womb before she could see him ...

EXCELLENT point.

40 posted on 04/29/2005 10:52:45 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: eccentric
Kansas Governor Sebelius just vetoed a bill that would require minimum licensing for abortion clinics. And the legislature failed to override her veto.

any more info?

41 posted on 04/29/2005 10:53:37 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: EternalVigilance
Barbarism.

truly. and that's not hyperbole.

42 posted on 04/29/2005 10:54:48 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Askel5; ApesForEvolution

ping


43 posted on 04/29/2005 10:55:51 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame

The scummiest person here, is the mother. The abort lovers are doing their job, they're not pretending to be life givers or life savers. They're scum, but she's much, much scummier.


44 posted on 04/29/2005 10:58:54 AM PDT by AlbionGirl ('True love and the miracle of forgiving - I believe in Simple Things.')
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To: technochick99

ping.


45 posted on 04/29/2005 11:05:29 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: kingattax

ping


46 posted on 04/29/2005 11:06:47 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
...for the mother wanted to save this child...

If she had wanted to save the child, she wouldn't have gone to the clinic in the first place. This is disgusting and ignorant at best, on EVERYONE's part.

As a private investigator, I have followed and videotaped numerous people in public places doing a wide variety of things. But when they arrive at their place of residence, or anywhere else where they have a "reasonable expectation of privacy", the video stops rolling.

The way I see it, this woman's claim is baseless, as there is no way she could have had a reasonable expectation that the doctors would do anything to save the life of her baby. After all, she was at an abortion clinic.

While I agree that the subject is great for the anti-abortion argument (and I am pro-life), I don't believe this woman has any right to damages, and should have to live with her actions for the rest of her life. She will ultimately have to answer for her actions.


47 posted on 04/29/2005 11:10:08 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: tame

thanks for the PING...i had read this story. This is way beyond horrible. God have mercy on America for it's obsession with death and disobedience to the Lord.


48 posted on 04/29/2005 11:12:15 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: tame

It's Florida again. The baby was helpless. He couldn't feed himself.


49 posted on 04/29/2005 11:13:30 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: tame

There is no such thing as a "live birth" abortion. That's murder. The fact that this euphemism even exists is disgusting. Might as well call what Hitler did "post-birth" abortion.


50 posted on 04/29/2005 11:13:42 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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