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Early warning shots-- the War against Religion...
various FR links & stories | 05-06-05 | the heavy equipment guy

Posted on 05/06/2005 3:43:52 AM PDT by backhoe

 Early warning shots-- the War against Religion...
...developing:

 The Left's 'Dominionist' Demons -- As near as I can tell, "Dominionism" is the Left's version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. A big lie used to justify bigotry and irrational hatred.
 
 "Dominionist" Fantasies
 
  Why I'm Rooting for the Religious Right -- The professional haters of the "religious right" are a bunch of narrow-minded, doctrinaire bigots
 
 
Scary Stuff: Venom Against Conservative Christians (Discussed on Rush Limbaugh)
more-- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1395264/posts
 
 The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party(Moonbat Warning!)
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1395231/posts
 
 Dominionist Domination: The Left runs with a wild theory.
 
 Left never tires of Christian bashing
 
  Dangerous Portents
 
 Kerry Email on Filibuster Slurs People of Faith as "Extreme, Out-of-touch Interest Groups"
 
  Feminism’s Spiritual Wave
 
 Group urges AFA to ground 'proselytizing' "...about a particularly virulent form of Christianity"
 
 The missing pieces - (George Lakoff "reframing" liberals' religious "messages"-ZOTable agenda)
 
 Scary Stuff (There’s A Real Venom On The Left Against Conservative Christians)
 


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aclu; antichristianbias; atheism; christophobia; cristophobia; culturewars; dominionism; irreligiousleft; persecution; purge; religiousleft; secularism; theophobia; waronreligion
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It's been developing for some time- think back to the nearly-uniform hostility the Pop Culture shows towards anything religious in nature.
1 posted on 05/06/2005 3:43:53 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Bookmarked. Got in on the first page this time.


2 posted on 05/06/2005 3:47:37 AM PDT by bad company (Attempts to create heaven on earth invariably produce hell. (Karl Popper))
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To: backhoe

False Religions must be destroyed


3 posted on 05/06/2005 3:48:04 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (We shall yet make this Free Republic into Moral Nation -= after The Rev. Elmer Gantry)
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To: bad company

Congradulations, and thanks for looking.


4 posted on 05/06/2005 3:48:51 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

ping


5 posted on 05/06/2005 3:50:44 AM PDT by ViLaLuz
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To: backhoe

THANKYOU FOR THE POST.

IT WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE FLOCK!

GODSPEED!


6 posted on 05/06/2005 3:51:24 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 (SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE!)
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To: backhoe

Thanks for assembling these links. I've been really puzzled by the references to "Dominionists" that I've started seeing in the press. I'm a Christian, and I had never heard of them until the left dug them up. And now it appears that we're all members!


7 posted on 05/06/2005 3:53:00 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius; alpha-8-25-02
Thank you both-- I've been sending this stuff in bits & pieces to religious groups in our community, and finally got it all together in one place-here.

People of Faith need to see this stuff for what it is- it's developing an ugly taint.

8 posted on 05/06/2005 4:00:43 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe; livius
I think it's a useful concept. There are certain backlashes against secularism that are going too far. We on the right should be ready to identify them and know the best way to limit their impact on politics. There are implications in extreme dominionism that bode seriously ill for a free republic.

A proper reaction to secularism will prevail; an extreme or misguided one will lead to chaos.

9 posted on 05/06/2005 4:15:17 AM PDT by risk
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To: livius
Only the Loons on the left could demonize Jesus Christ and his message of love, hope and caring, while at the same time promoting immoral behavior as "good".
10 posted on 05/06/2005 4:16:16 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
Anyone can utter religious words while meaning something else, or having himself and others convinced that he means well while really having a greed for power in mind.

There's no denying it.

11 posted on 05/06/2005 4:21:13 AM PDT by risk
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To: backhoe

ONCE AGAIN THANKYOU!

I AM BLESSED BY YOU AND SO MANY HERE!

the home flock is very rural.some have not driven further than 30 miles from the little church.

http://www.constantiacenter.com/

i have been subjected to the whole big world as preperation to do the Lord's work.

the posts you and many here become great teaching tools,and get sent to the home flock and to the cyber flock.

AGAIN THANKYOU!

GODSPEED!


12 posted on 05/06/2005 4:44:10 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 (SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE!)
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To: alpha-8-25-02

Thanks for the kind words, and I took a look at your link-- it's very nice. Mrs. B works here:

http://www.honeycreek.org/
The Georgia Episcopal Camp and Conference Center (Honey Creek)


13 posted on 05/06/2005 4:58:42 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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While it may not be directly related to this subject, a somewhat parallel developement which is encouraging:

 New 'mommy wars': a fight against pop culture's excess

14 posted on 05/06/2005 5:01:22 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

Did you read George Will's article yesterday? He was touting that the attacks against Christians are being over-rated and that we are acting like Chicken Little. I guess if they ever start carting us off to concentration camps, when the UN becomes the workld body, he will be saying, "Don't worry, folks...it's just the most radical element that even they couldn't control. We'll all be better off now!"


15 posted on 05/06/2005 5:02:03 AM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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Did you read George Will's article yesterday? He was touting that the attacks against Christians are being over-rated and that we are acting like Chicken Little.

Yes, I did... I like George Will well enough, but I'm afraid his years of being among the more elite has made him tone-deaf to the concerns of us closer to everyday America.

16 posted on 05/06/2005 5:09:58 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

IMO religious ideology doesn't belong in politics. Spirituality does.


17 posted on 05/06/2005 5:18:42 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: risk

There probably are overreacters everywhere, to everything, but I don't think they're anywhere near as significant as these articles make them sound. I live in the South, where they might be expected to be concentrated, and I'd never heard of them before. I would suspect that most of them keep away from secular society all together and probably belong to some fairly clannish little groups that do not actually engage in politics, or have very little following if they do.

But it's a useful concept for the left to use to attack religious people. It's like saying everybody opposed to abortion is a would-be Eric Rudolph.


18 posted on 05/06/2005 5:40:12 AM PDT by livius
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To: Oztrich Boy
False Religions must be destroyed

But that means only the Mormons would be left! :)

GW

19 posted on 05/06/2005 6:19:24 AM PDT by gregwest
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NBC'S Unabated Catholic Bashing

20 posted on 05/06/2005 1:32:26 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Why I'm Rooting Against the Religious Right

21 posted on 05/06/2005 2:52:17 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Religion Today (Psycho Liberals at CUNY bash Christian Conservatives)

22 posted on 05/07/2005 2:06:13 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Members say pastor kicked them out of church over politics

23 posted on 05/07/2005 5:41:08 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe
The secular left has been deceived by their peculiar geographic clustering, and by the imposition of groupthink in their media and their universities, into thinking they can act as a majority.

The real majority is finding its feet.

If the secular left keeps pushing, the inevitable pushback is really going to sting.

I don't think they see it coming, because (to borrow an old TASS phrase), they do not understand the correlation of forces they have set in motion.

24 posted on 05/07/2005 5:45:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: Jim Noble
If the secular left keeps pushing, the inevitable pushback is really going to sting. I don't think they see it coming, because (to borrow an old TASS phrase), they do not understand the correlation of forces they have set in motion.

I suspect you are right.

25 posted on 05/07/2005 5:46:25 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: All
Hugh Hewitt: New McCarthyism

26 posted on 05/08/2005 3:39:53 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: risk
Anyone can utter religious words while meaning something else, or having himself and others convinced that he means well while really having a greed for power in mind.

Zealots of any stripe are dangerous, and best kept at arm's length, too frequently at gunpoint.

27 posted on 05/08/2005 3:54:57 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Al Gore Attacks "Right-Wing Religious Zealotry" - "This aggressive new strain of right-wing religious zealotry is actually a throw-back to the intolerance that led to the creation of America in the first place."

Gore: Bush faith akin to fundamentalist Islam - "It's the American version of the same fundamentalist impulse that we see in Saudi Arabia, in Kashmir..."

Robert Reich’s Religion Problem - "The great conflict of the 21st century will not be between the West and terrorism. Terrorism is a tactic, not a belief. The true battle will be between modern civilization and anti-modernists; between those who believe in the primacy of the individual and those who believe that human beings owe their allegiance and identity to a higher authority; between those who give priority to life in this world and those who believe that human life is mere preparation for an existence beyond life; between those who believe in science, reason, and logic and those who believe that truth is revealed through Scripture and religious dogma."

28 posted on 05/08/2005 5:56:18 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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Faith 'War' Rages in U.S., Judge Janice Rogers Brown Says - "These are perilous times for people of faith, not in the sense that we are going to lose our lives, but in the sense that it will cost you something if you are a person of faith who stands up for what you believe in and say those things out loud."

Taliban west? Liberals worry that President Bush's reelection will lead to an American theocracy - Historian Garry Wills calls Nov. 2 "the day the Enlightenment went out," saying that with the influence of Christian "fundamentalists," Americans have now come to resemble the Islamic jihadists that we are fighting.

Why Bush threatens secularism - "An event that is billed as a celebration for the entire nation should include everyone, even those who profess no faith, this inaugural sent a message that in order to be truly American, you must also be religious." - Barry Lynn

29 posted on 05/08/2005 6:32:09 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I greatly appreciate those links- thank you.


30 posted on 05/09/2005 12:33:31 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: tacticalogic
Zealots of any stripe are dangerous, and best kept at arm's length, too frequently at gunpoint.

Zealotry is as zealotry does. America's revolution and its defense have always been carried out by zealots. It's not really the zealots who worry me. People who manipulate others are rarely passionate about the issues they fire up in the objects of their influence; it's usually something else they want instead.

31 posted on 05/10/2005 9:55:48 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk
America's revolution and its defense have always been carried out by zealots.

I disagree. Our revolution and defense have been carried out by men of reasoned conviction. Zealotry has no use for reason.

32 posted on 05/11/2005 6:21:59 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Interesting observations. I think reason can motivate enthusiasm. If you don't like to call it zealotry, I'm OK with that.


33 posted on 05/11/2005 8:14:11 AM PDT by risk
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To: backhoe

I took Mr. G. Will off of my list of must read articles when he wrote against the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

He is, at best, a "Bill of Rights is a menue" conservative, and, at worst, no conservative at all, which is probably a distinction without a difference.

IMHO, Will is no friend of the conservative movement. He wants to be accepted by the academy in the worst way.


34 posted on 05/11/2005 8:28:27 AM PDT by PaRebel (Visualize whirled peas!)
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To: risk
If you don't like to call it zealotry, I'm OK with that.

To me zealotry is the point at which enthusiasm is no longer reasoned, and becomes irrational. Then the end is justifying the means and denying the consequences.

35 posted on 05/11/2005 8:28:50 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Agreed.


36 posted on 05/11/2005 8:32:39 AM PDT by risk
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To: Oztrich Boy

"False Religions must be destroyed."

And exactly who will be appointed to make up the list for destruction?


37 posted on 05/11/2005 8:43:51 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Gone GF

Drstroy them all. Let God sort it out.


38 posted on 05/11/2005 9:03:54 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. - Voltaire)
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Democrats Protecting America From the 'Far Right'

39 posted on 05/11/2005 3:47:46 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Christian agenda worries other faiths [WARNING - DEVOID OF FACTS]

40 posted on 05/12/2005 3:30:22 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Tug of war over sex education in schools - On its Web log on April 6, teachthefacts.org posted an entry titled, "Theocrats making their move in our country." It showed a picture of two women covered head-to-toe in Muslim burkas. "So here's the plan. Conservative Christians are going to 'take back' America. They will eradicate evil and make sure that all Americans live according to the Gospel," wrote Jim Kennedy, a federal worker with two children in high school. "You will dress modestly, abstain from liquor, cigarettes, dancing. Your daughters will learn about sex from their husbands when they marry ... You will obey the scriptural laws of the country and will attend services, of course," he wrote.
41 posted on 05/17/2005 3:02:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I appreciate that link.

It just shows how wrong-headed, and fanatical, some of these characters are.

Personally, I don't give a rip if a person is religious or not, so long as he's law-abiding and decent toward others. I'm not interested in forcing anyone to believe in anything- but I don't like the hostility manifesting itself to any kind of faith, and I do believe the goal is to silence "anyone who would dare tell me what I am doing is wrong."

42 posted on 05/17/2005 3:30:23 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Groups Say University Stadium Not Suitable for Promise Keepers - According to Dick Bennett, retired professor of English and president of the OMNI center, that very mission speaks to the groups intolerance of others. "They are extremely exclusive in favor of Christianity to the exclusion of all the other religions," Bennett said. "This is a very fundamentalist, intolerant religious organization. Even though they say they are open to all denominations, ethnic and cultural backgrounds, they really mean if those different peoples will convert to Christian," he said.

For NOW President Melanie Dietzel, the issue is the inappropriateness of a non-diverse group using the facilities of a diverse campus. "You’re inviting parents to bring their kids and you have this going on, on campus. What kind of message is that sending about their true dedication to diversity?" she asked. "My point is, our university is saying we have this diversity plan in place that we want to protect, encourage, support, be tolerant of all of this diversity. And yet, in our Razorback Stadium, we’re going to have speakers who have made these broad statements openly defying the philosophy of the university. I just think this flies in the face of what they’re promoting as the university’s real efforts at diversity."

In other words, "diversity" means NO CHRISTIANS ALLOWED.

43 posted on 05/17/2005 4:25:52 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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In other words, "diversity" means NO CHRISTIANS ALLOWED.

That's exactly where we are heading.

44 posted on 05/17/2005 4:32:22 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe
Our religion doesn't measure up to their standards of "tolerance" and "diversity," so they are not obligated to "tolerate" us.

If they love "tolerance" so much, maybe they should start practicing it.

45 posted on 05/17/2005 4:40:06 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: backhoe
Why are your federal tax dollars being used to pay the ACLU to bring frivolous lawsuits against you.</p>

Your tax dollars pay their attorney fees.

It's time to repeal the law.

Check it out.
46 posted on 05/18/2005 9:02:21 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: OKIEDOC; backhoe
The latest: ACLU Wants Cross Removed From Cemetery (Man Vows To Keep Cross On Plot)
47 posted on 05/18/2005 4:37:30 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Thanks for the link.


48 posted on 05/18/2005 4:42:38 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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 Former Reagan Sec. of Interior Watt questions the lies of the "Religious Left" in WAPO Op-Ed -- responds to charges against Christians and himself posed by the "Religious Left" in a Washington Post Op-Ed. There is also a good frame of reference piece on Powerline.

49 posted on 05/21/2005 3:19:09 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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 UNDOJESUS.ORG - The time has come to abandon Christianity (HAVE YOU SEEN THIS??! mega ZOT!) -- Stand by for an all-out assault on Christians, Jews, decency & morality in general... brought to you by what I call "The Media Hive"-- the entertainment media, the press, and the talking jackal heads on TV.

50 posted on 05/22/2005 4:53:36 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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