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Shanghaied! Rolls-Royce knockoff wows Chinese showgoers
AutoWeek ^ | May 2, 05 | Julian Rendell

Posted on 05/07/2005 11:10:29 PM PDT by spetznaz

Proving nothing is sacred, Hongki—longtime official supplier of cars for Communist Party officials in China—showed a design concept at the Shanghai motor show that most observers doubted they would ever see: a Chinese interpretation of the magisterial Rolls-Royce Phantom II.

At 20.75 feet long, six and a half feet wide, and sitting on a 12.8-foot-long wheelbase, the Red Flag HQD is even more imposing than the Roller thanks to its slabbier styling, squared-off front wings and immense (dare we say “International”?) grille.

The unveiling took Rolls’ Goodwood team by surprise: “We knew nothing about it,” said a Rolls-Royce official.

Chris Bangle, design chief for Rolls-Royce parent company BMW, seemed amused as he soaked-up the HQD’s lines: “I’d just like to find out some more.”

Rival designer Olivier Boulay, who runs Mercedes’ Tokyo design office, was more charitable: “I think this is great. Honest to the Chinese and the Red Flag’s heritage with that big, wide grille.”

Hongki is better known as Red Flag because the company traditionally supplied the official cars for China’s ruling Communist Party. HQD is intended to show how a Chinese luxury sedan could fit into today’s more capitalistic China.

Hongki says power for the Red Flag Roller will come from a 6.0-liter V12 or maybe a W12. As shown, the HQD was strictly a non-running design study, but we’re told the car is slated to go into production before 2008.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automobile; car; china; luxury; rollsroyce
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The most significant thing about this concept is now what it looks like or what it is supposed to be. The paramount facet to be considered is that it shows just how far the Chinese automative groups are willing to go. It defines their ambitions, and in essence illustrates how far they are willing to go.

All the same I would definitely opt for the Real McCoy and get a true Phantom instead of the Chinese knock-off. But it is still interesting how far up they have set their sights (and while BMW, which owns Rolls,should not be concerned the companies that definitely should include Ford and GM. In the next 5-10 yrs China will be a significant threat for Detroit).

Anyways, here is what a real Phantom looks like (I've tried to include similar points of view as the knock-off):


1 posted on 05/07/2005 11:10:29 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: Spktyr; oceanview; cyborg; nuconvert; Rickkimble; kellynla; TarHell
Chinese Rolls-Royce knock-off PING.
2 posted on 05/07/2005 11:12:07 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: spetznaz
Will they be selling them at Walmart?
3 posted on 05/07/2005 11:16:15 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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The first thing that came to my mind was the list of reasons that gas is so expensive. China's ever increasing demand is near the top of the list.


4 posted on 05/07/2005 11:18:32 PM PDT by digitalbrownshirt
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To: spetznaz

WOW, almost alot of similarity, Unfortunately the chinese version almost looks better, i really hate to say it.

It would be interesting to know how the knockoff would feel like to drive vs the real one. Wake up world, the chinese sounds like the next japanese market unfortunately, i sure hope the chinese never become more powerful than they already are.


5 posted on 05/07/2005 11:21:25 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: spetznaz
I'll bet Hillary already has one picked out in Fuchsia as her Presidential Premiere's Limousine...
6 posted on 05/07/2005 11:26:21 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media!)
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To: Blurblogger
I'll bet Hillary already has one picked out in Fuchsia as her Presidential Premiere's Limousine...

LOL. Almost made me choke ...on pizza nonetheless!!!! Lol and g'night.

7 posted on 05/07/2005 11:28:04 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: spetznaz
Actually, the most significant thing mentioned is that Beemer owns rolls.

I didn't know that.

What the germans couldn't capture, it appears that they have bought. (BMW, Chrysler...)

As an aside, a friend of mine said she was going to go fix a BMW Friday (she owns a car customization co.)

I asked, "What are you going to do, remove the PR$CK?"

8 posted on 05/07/2005 11:29:34 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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Actually, the most significant thing mentioned is that Beemer owns rolls.

You might then be interested to know that Volkswaggen owns Bentley.

9 posted on 05/07/2005 11:32:44 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: spetznaz

Can anyone say BUTT UGLY?


10 posted on 05/07/2005 11:35:14 PM PDT by funkywbr
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To: spetznaz

Does Messerschmidt own Boeing?


11 posted on 05/07/2005 11:41:27 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: patton

LOL.


12 posted on 05/07/2005 11:45:18 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: spetznaz

Anyone want to guess what the reliability is? My guess is that it will be somehting worse than the early Hyundais.


13 posted on 05/07/2005 11:57:33 PM PDT by Natural Law
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Anyone want to guess what the reliability is? My guess is that it will be somehting worse than the early Hyundais.

It comes with 6 men in the trunk to push it when the engine fails.

14 posted on 05/08/2005 12:08:37 AM PDT by MediaMole
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You can hear it coming....Ping, Ping, Ping, Ping, Ping, Ping...


16 posted on 05/08/2005 12:24:02 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: OneWorldTory
Karl Marx does not approve

Was he the third dancer to the right during the song in " A day at the Race's"?

17 posted on 05/08/2005 12:27:51 AM PDT by highpockets
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To: funkywbr

"Can anyone say BUTT UGLY?"

BUTT UGLY :-) My first reaction was that it reminded me of The Homer... but for this car, the government supplies the security system, ignition system and a black box; plus, there's an optional spittoon that drains onto the street, kinda like an airplane toilet.


18 posted on 05/08/2005 2:19:48 AM PDT by American in Singapore
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To: spetznaz
Rival designer Olivier Boulay... was more charitable: “I think this is great. Honest to the Chinese ... heritage with that big, wide grille.”

Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark.

19 posted on 05/08/2005 2:30:04 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: spetznaz

Looks like the gang from "Pimp My Ride" got hold of a Rolls. Does it have a sound system that takes up the entire trunk? Spinners?


20 posted on 05/08/2005 2:30:13 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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