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1 posted on 05/09/2005 9:47:36 AM PDT by thierrya
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Spying on Sweden? Is China working on an Inter-Continental Ballistic Meatball or something?


2 posted on 05/09/2005 9:51:53 AM PDT by inkling
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she regretted that China had been singled out

Quite frankly, China is trying to learn as much as possible. Quite frankly, XYZ (fill in the blank with the country of your choice) is trying to learn as much as possible about research going on in other countries. To not to do so would be stupid. The line between collaboration and stealing is a fine one.

3 posted on 05/09/2005 9:53:18 AM PDT by staytrue
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BFD--we had a president once that just gave away state secrets, and he's never seen the inside of a prison (except for his marriage, perhaps).


6 posted on 05/09/2005 9:55:16 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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"but ultimately it is in the interests of individual researchers to protect themselves."

In other words, Sweden will once again refuse to do anything when confronted with a clear-cut case of right vs wrong.

7 posted on 05/09/2005 9:55:23 AM PDT by Sam's Army (Fight them)
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Clearly, the Chinese are after the recipes of the Muppets' Swedish chef.


9 posted on 05/09/2005 9:57:42 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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Call in the Swedish Anti-Spy Corps.

11 posted on 05/09/2005 10:01:43 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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I just love the inane comment that are in this thread. Karolinska Institute is a formidable medical research institute. I don't think any of there research is applicable to bioweapons. However, they are at the forefront of research on diseases like diabetes, maybe not the best but certainly ranked high. Stealing research secrets could be the start of medical tourism business in China. It takes so long to get things approved in Europe and through the FDA in America that they could put unapproved devices and therapy on the market and have Europeans and Americans flying there simply because the FDA is doing a slow job.
13 posted on 05/09/2005 10:09:52 AM PDT by Investment Biker
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It appears to be trend impacting all Western countries. They are seizing the means of production, and the science that underpins them.


15 posted on 05/09/2005 10:36:35 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: thierrya

They may be getting plenty of free research by developing personal ties with the research staffs of developed countries, but like the rest of the world, the Chinese and anyone else who is interested can do a lot of this without ever setting foot in the country.

http://info.ki.se/index_se.html

I would worry less about Chinese spies, and more about the fact that US doctoral and post-doctoral programs fill up with non-US nationals because American secondary and undergraduate educational institutions are turning out too few American "graduates" who could even read, much less make practical use of, whatever the "Chinese spies" are "stealing" (or whatever the "Chinese technicians and scholars" are "learning") in their interactions with Swedish researchers.

We are less threatened by the technical acumen of our increasingly prosperous neighbors in Asia, Latin America, and Europe than we are by the limitations of our capacity to propagate past scientific and engineering successes into the future.


20 posted on 05/09/2005 11:11:41 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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Hey it was probably a few ambassadors and consular reps peeping and they got caught so they pretend to be "spying" ;) seriously though i do not trust China, hope that their social problems bring them down
22 posted on 05/09/2005 11:40:13 AM PDT by DM1
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