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Newsweek apologizes for getting Koran-Guantanamo Bay story wrong. (The Editor's Desk)
Newsweek ^ | 05/15/05 | The Editor's Desk

Posted on 05/15/2005 10:31:22 AM PDT by Pikamax

May 23 issue - Did a report in NEWSWEEK set off a wave of deadly anti-American riots in Afghanistan? That's what numerous news accounts suggested last week as angry Afghans took to the streets to protest reports, linked to us, that U.S. interrogators had desecrated the Qur'an while interrogating Muslim terror suspects. We were as alarmed as anyone to hear of the violence, which left at least 15 Afghans dead and scores injured. But I think it's important for the public to know exactly what we reported, why, and how subsequent events unfolded.

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To: andyandval

go for it


251 posted on 05/15/2005 6:06:52 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/wardsmythe)
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To: Pikamax

Yeah, okay, so MSM got it wrong again. However, the Muslim community needs to take a collective chill pill (fat chance of that ever happening) Just how many American flags have they burned outright just because of their hatred of us? How many George Bush effigies? That's right..and WHERE'S the OUTRAGE OVER THAT? Where are the investigations, etc. etc. You get my drift. How dare the clerics give us three days to come up with an explanation. They've been waging holy war on us for far too long, this was just an excuse.


252 posted on 05/15/2005 6:08:21 PM PDT by SueRae
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To: Nita Nupress
I don't remember my Shakespeare

tisk, tisk.

253 posted on 05/15/2005 6:08:44 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Nita Nupress
#241...I'm glad to hear that.
You had me worried :^)
254 posted on 05/15/2005 6:10:00 PM PDT by Guenevere (Sola Gratia)
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To: Guenevere
#241...I'm glad to hear that.
You had me worried :^)

No, I haven't been drinking.

But thanks for worrying. ;-)

255 posted on 05/15/2005 6:12:34 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress

Yes, remember when the pope was shot by a Muslim and all the Catholics rioted and killed innocent muslims?

Of course no one remembers that, because it didn't happen.

The Pope promptly forgave his attacker. Where are Muslim leaders condemning the violence and asking for peace while the charges are investigated?

Quite a contrast, no?


256 posted on 05/15/2005 6:14:14 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: Pikamax; PhilDragoo; Ragtime Cowgirl; Cindy; SusanTK; AdmSmith; Valin; ALOHA RONNIE; MeekOneGOP; ...



257 posted on 05/15/2005 6:15:29 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Miss Marple
Well, gee, big of them to apologize.

They should be run into bankruptcy for this stunt

They cost people their lives

And the sad part is ??

They have learned NOTHING from this

258 posted on 05/15/2005 6:18:21 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
The dirtbags at NewsWEAK should be sent to personally apologize to the all Islamofascistjigadists all over the world who they incensed with their the LIES. Yeah, that's the ticket. Let's see how well they are received!
259 posted on 05/15/2005 6:18:35 PM PDT by Chieftain (Thanks to the Swift Boat Veterans, Vietnam Veterans, and POW's for Truth for standing tall.)
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To: Smartass

From another thread on this.

Do these idiots understand what's going on? This is not a game we're playing, peoples lives are at stake and the security of the country is a stake.


They should print a retraction and have it placed in EVERY paper in the Islamic world. Every if they do this (which I doubt they will) there are large numbers of Muslims who won't believe it. Osama has got to be smiling over this, nice fat present newsweek give him.


I tell you just how f...ing angry I am.


260 posted on 05/15/2005 6:19:37 PM PDT by Valin (The glass is 1/32 full! - The incredible optimist)
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To: NormsRevenge; All
Whoever wrote the Newsweek report about Korans being flushed down the toilet belongs in an orange jumpsuit while awaiting trial for high treason. Anyone with half a brain knows that you can't flush even a pocket-size book down the toilet. Assuming the reporter did have half a brain, this story could only have been yet another blatant attempt by the liberal media to whip up more anti-American hysteria in the Middle East and reverse the remarkable progress made in Afghanistan.

Enough is enough. The liberal media is effectively giving aid and comfort to America's enemies. If Al Qaeda ever printed a newsletter in this country, everyone from the publisher to the paperboy would be lead away in leg irons. So there's no reason why the editors and reporters of magazines like Newsweek shouldn't be prosecuted for disseminating treasonous or seditious propaganda. Forget this crap about freedom of the press; there is no such thing as freedom of treason and sedition.

261 posted on 05/15/2005 6:21:05 PM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: Valin
Exactly.   If you or I caused riots and killings like Newsweek's hoax, our door would be smashed down and we'd be doing hard time!!!
262 posted on 05/15/2005 6:24:01 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Nita Nupress
It's the principle. Don't think about the details -- look at the principle. Guns don't kill people; people kill people. That principle.

Yes, I realize your point, I just disagree with it.

Yes, the actual killers diserve blame, obviously. But so do the people that purposefully incited them to it.

This is a case of yelling fire in a crowded theater that we are talking about here. Or perhaps a better example, if Newsweek maliciously and falsely called Joe Innocent a child molester, and someone killed Joe based on this, wouldn't Newsweek still also be to blame?
263 posted on 05/15/2005 6:26:46 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --Lord Acton)
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To: Smartass
CREDIBILITY IS NOT AN ISSUE
WITH MAIN STREAM MEDIA

264 posted on 05/15/2005 6:26:53 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Smartass

As others have pointed out the damage has been done, now how do we (or more specifically newsweek) fix it.
Write and have printed (at newsweek cost) a retaction and have it placed in EVERY paper in the Islamic world. That might be a place to start.


265 posted on 05/15/2005 6:30:12 PM PDT by Valin (The glass is 1/32 full! - The incredible optimist)
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To: Lady Jag

OR ALL LIBERALS


266 posted on 05/15/2005 6:30:38 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Valin

"From another thread on this.

Do these idiots understand what's going on? This is not a game we're playing, peoples lives are at stake and the security of the country is a stake.

Of course they understand that we are war and that lives are at stake. THEY DO NOT CARE.

The end.... the downfall of the Republican Party and Conservative thought.....justifies any means.


267 posted on 05/15/2005 6:31:41 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: Valin
Do these idiots understand what's going on? This is not a game we're playing, peoples lives are at stake and the security of the country is a stake.

They don't care

It's all about making President Bush look bad because he was reelection

These IDIOTS have no shame and NOTHING is to low for them

Even the lives of people of Afghanistan .. Our Country and Our Military

268 posted on 05/15/2005 6:32:36 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: hgro
It makes one wonder just whose side the MSM and their minions are on doesn't it.

Not really. I thought that question had been answered years ago, along about the time of the Tet offensive...

269 posted on 05/15/2005 6:34:50 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: Mo1

From Powerline
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/010468.php
A footnote on the Newsweek mess

Much more remains to be said on the stunning mess Newsweek has created with its May 9 Koran in the toilet story. Newsweek climbs down from the story today, sort of. Others elsewhere have correctly noted that Evan Thomas's article on the mess reads like "damage control."

Why did Thomas have to collaborate on this article with four Newsweek reporters for additional reporting when the man with the information interested readers most deserve to hear from is Thomas's colleague Michael Isikoff? Isikoff makes a token appearance in paragraph 5 of Thomas's article, like Alfred Hitchcock walking through a scene in one of his own movies.

The observant John Steele Gordon writes to note a point of interest in the text of Thomas's Newsweek article:

Liberal MSM magazine finds marginally credible story that makes the military (and Bush Administration) look bad and rushes into print with it without any consideration of the possible consequences. So what else is new?

What I find most interesting is that Newsweek insists on spelling the name of the holy book of Islam "Qur'an" despite the fact that there has been a perfectly good word for it in use in the English language ("Koran") since 1625. "Qur'an" is a transliteration of the Arabic word for the Koran (although my dictionary says there should be a long vowel mark over the A--but, since I don't speak Arabic, I will have to take its word for it). So using Qur'an instead of Koran is like using "Athina" for "Athens" of "Moskva" for "Moscow." In other words, political correctness run amok.

I think the apostrophe--utterly meaningless in an English-language context--is a particularly nice touch of cultural pandering.


270 posted on 05/15/2005 6:35:51 PM PDT by Valin (The glass is 1/32 full! - The incredible optimist)
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To: Valin
I don't believe Newsweek has admitted to how the blunder occurred. To be contrite, one has to first admit their failures to become clean. They haven't done either.
271 posted on 05/15/2005 6:36:14 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: hgro; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; Alamo-Girl; Smartass; ...


I could be wrong - but I do not think I so :

Michael Isikoff at Newsweek was the one who sat on and covered up the Monica Lewinski story that they had researched and written well before Matt Drudge dropped the bombshell and made the Clintonista MSM suddenly play catch-up because they were caught pimping for Slick Willie.

273 posted on 05/15/2005 6:38:25 PM PDT by devolve (My WWII Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html - more traffic than DU-Koz-LDot)
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To: Smartass

Good point. Thanks, I forgot the rules the MSM plays by
1 We're never wrong
2 In the unlikely event that we are wrong...see rule #1


274 posted on 05/15/2005 6:39:00 PM PDT by Valin (The glass is 1/32 full! - The incredible optimist)
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To: Pikamax; windcliff
Conversation overheard at Newsweek HQ.

How did we get the facts wrong?
Facts, what are those?

Let's refer to them as Newsweak, from now on.

275 posted on 05/15/2005 6:39:32 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: stop_fascism
they will start to regain credibility.

Can't imagine who will believe them...that's the funny thing about trust (credibility): once you lose it, it's lost forever...

276 posted on 05/15/2005 6:41:43 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: Smartass
The weekly news magazine said in its May 23 edition that the information had come from a "knowledgeable government source" who told Newsweek that a military report on abuse at Guantanamo Bay said interrogators flushed at least one copy of the Koran down a toilet in a bid to make detainees talk.

I want to know the name of this...person slimey little twit.

Can we say State Dept.?

277 posted on 05/15/2005 6:46:04 PM PDT by Valin (The glass is 1/32 full! - The incredible optimist)
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To: Pikamax
This issue got some good responses on freedominion.ca as well. I linked up a Policy Review aticle by Robert D. Kaplan entitled: "The Media and Medievalism" that I believe and I presume you will as well be very relevant to this story:

"...As this is an age in which we are bombarded by messages that tell us what to buy and what to think, when one dissects the real elements of power — who has it and, more important during a time of rapid change, who increasingly has it — one is left to conclude bleakly: Ours is not an age of democracy, or an age of terrorism, but an age of mass media, without which the current strain of terrorism would be toothless in any case.

Like the priests of ancient Egypt, the rhetoricians of ancient Greece and Rome, and the theologians of medieval Europe, the media represent a class of bright and ambitious people whose social and economic stature gives them the influence to undermine political authority. Like those prior groups, the media have authentic political power — terrifically magnified by technology — without the bureaucratic accountability that often accompanies it, so that they are never culpable for what they advocate. If, for example, what a particular commentator has recommended turns out badly, the permanent megaphone he wields over the crowd allows him to explain away his position — if not in one article or television appearance, then over several — before changing the subject amid the roaring onrush of new events. Presidents, even if voters ignore their blunders, are at least responsible to history; journalists rarely are. This freedom is key to their irresponsible power."

Here's the Link: http://www.policyreview.org/dec04/kaplan_print.html

278 posted on 05/15/2005 6:48:33 PM PDT by bubman
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To: Valin
They always come up with a short quick apology hoping it will blow over fast. However, they never point a finger to who, or to how, because they must always keep the public barefoot, pregnant and ignorant. For what happened, I don't believe (the person) their covered by First Amendment Rights, and shouldn't be. The USDOJ could be paying them a visit.
279 posted on 05/15/2005 6:53:26 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Smartass

The USDOJ could be paying them a visit.

I don't disagree, but realistically what can the government legally do?


280 posted on 05/15/2005 6:56:26 PM PDT by Valin (The glass is 1/32 full! - The incredible optimist)
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To: lancer
Conversation with Dentist:

Yes, my appointment is Wednesday and that may very well be fine. But I was just wondering, do you still keep copies of that Newsweak magazine in your waiting room or have you finally removed them all in light of sensitivity to the many military and other patriotic patients that come to visit you, instead of the many other Dentists in town?

281 posted on 05/15/2005 6:56:32 PM PDT by kcar (The UNsucks.com)
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To: SueRae
The problem is with the so called religion of islam. It doesn't get along with anyone else, has no philosophy of gratitude, forgiveness, kindness, understanding, sympathy, and any of the great qualities that bring people together.
I have not heard anywhere anything about love, harmony, caring, etc.
We constantly hear submit or die.
Religion means to bind in that one binds himself to the higher qualities of God.
Islam is not a religion.
It seems more like a doctrine of military domination.
282 posted on 05/15/2005 7:00:26 PM PDT by chuckwalla (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: Smartass; Cindy

OMG! I think that is the best one yet!

Cindy, the rumors are true. Here is proof that a book can be flushed.


283 posted on 05/15/2005 7:01:03 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Smartass
OR ALL LIBERALS

My stomach wretches to say the MSM is the same.

284 posted on 05/15/2005 7:01:46 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Pikamax

Who's the "knowledgeable government source" who fed them lies? Hiliary? Kerry? Kennedy? the mafia princess pelosi? One of Biden's liars/plagiarists? So many traitors and so little time. I can only hope that this backfires and there is a total meltdown in the left wing media monolith.


285 posted on 05/15/2005 7:05:49 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Valin
If an American or our troops in Afghanistan have been killed because of Newsweek's negligence, I'm sure there's a criminal statute to burn at the stake.

Check out this link:
Quran in toilet? Never mind
286 posted on 05/15/2005 7:06:34 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Valin

Col Hunt is on FNC now .. HE IS TICKED OFF!!!


287 posted on 05/15/2005 7:06:50 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: Arkie2
Do you think any heads will roll at Newsweak?

I don't know about heads rolling, but murder charges should be brought against the "source" AND the reporter.

288 posted on 05/15/2005 7:07:33 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Pikamax

I love the Dan Rather approach. "The DoD official didn't deny it...." Of course, he didn't confirm it either.


289 posted on 05/15/2005 7:08:05 PM PDT by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: McGavin999

Colonel Hunt was just on Geraldo's show and he agrees. He also says a lot worse things should happen to Newsweek than their "half-assed apology." Colonel Hunt doesn't mince words. Called them murderers.


290 posted on 05/15/2005 7:10:31 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Valin

"Do these idiots understand what's going on? This is not a game we're playing, peoples lives are at stake and the security of the country is a stake."

"I tell you just how f...ing angry I am. "

Don't worry, these people will pay. Guaranteed...


291 posted on 05/15/2005 7:11:21 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (How soon will the U.S.A. be U.S.S.A.?)
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To: Miss Marple

I saw that also

He is REALLY ticked about this


292 posted on 05/15/2005 7:11:27 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: Calpernia; Lady Jag; Cindy
Read the two links at the bottom of this article:
Quran in toilet? Never mind

This just about sums up our liberal MSM and the damage there doing to this country!
293 posted on 05/15/2005 7:13:11 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Pikamax
This is not a "Free Press", this is an out of control press. If I go
out here and yell "Fire" in a theater I can and should be prosecuted
and I think that is a good foundation to bring charges against at
least the reported and Newsweek. They have cost hundreds of lives and
untold damage both real and political.

I Believe in a free press and if that story had been true it should
have been reported. "Free Press" is not a license to lie and fabricate
stories or take gossip as fact. If it is "True" print it, if not don't!
294 posted on 05/15/2005 7:14:06 PM PDT by cleo1939
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To: Mo1

This is MUCH MUCH bigger than forged documents. THIS could be the death knell for the MSM!!

Like someone said before:

Newsweak lied, People died.


295 posted on 05/15/2005 7:16:07 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (How soon will the U.S.A. be U.S.S.A.?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Blood is on their collective hands.

Thats funny its just going to keep getting worse because now the only power they have collectivly is to destroy they are so into getting the story out first it dont matter weather its true or not .

296 posted on 05/15/2005 7:19:21 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Pikamax
"the other challenged another aspect of the story but did not dispute the Qur'an charge."

So if someone doesn't want to comment or defend a crazy allegation it must be true?
297 posted on 05/15/2005 7:22:16 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: Calpernia; Cindy; Lady Jag; Valin

I believe in First Amendment Rights, because, that's the only reason we're all here. However, enough is enough, the New York Times, Boston Globe, Newsweek should be closed down for two years, or until the war in Iraq is finished. There has to be some pain meted out.


298 posted on 05/15/2005 7:23:34 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Miss Marple
Well, gee, big of them to apologize.

NO KIDDING!

299 posted on 05/15/2005 7:27:20 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Smartass
I believe in First Amendment Rights, because, that's the only reason we're all here. However, enough is enough, the New York Times, Boston Globe, Newsweek should be closed down for two years, or until the war in Iraq is finished. There has to be some pain meted out

With Freedom, comes responsibility

Something Newsweek and the liberals HAVE FAILED TO UNDERSTAND

300 posted on 05/15/2005 7:31:34 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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