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Newsweek apologizes for getting Koran-Guantanamo Bay story wrong. (The Editor's Desk)
Newsweek ^ | 05/15/05 | The Editor's Desk

Posted on 05/15/2005 10:31:22 AM PDT by Pikamax

May 23 issue - Did a report in NEWSWEEK set off a wave of deadly anti-American riots in Afghanistan? That's what numerous news accounts suggested last week as angry Afghans took to the streets to protest reports, linked to us, that U.S. interrogators had desecrated the Qur'an while interrogating Muslim terror suspects. We were as alarmed as anyone to hear of the violence, which left at least 15 Afghans dead and scores injured. But I think it's important for the public to know exactly what we reported, why, and how subsequent events unfolded.

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To: Valin
Oops....sorry, there is something...... Magazine casts doubt on Quran report
351 posted on 05/16/2005 4:33:58 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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U.S. interrogators
=Our Military Men/Women
& Newsweek lied about them...
352 posted on 05/16/2005 4:34:12 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: tobyhill

You are talking about Clinton's lies in regards to his sexual harrassment suit. He was also accused of rape by a different woman that never went to a trial.


353 posted on 05/16/2005 4:41:42 AM PDT by swilhelm73 (Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --Lord Acton)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Newsweek should be sued in the world court,and held financially libel for all damage, deaths and suffering

Wait a minute, NW was certainly negligible in their reporting, but to go bonkers and KILL people over flushin' a Koran is ludicrous.

You can only hold NW responsible to a certain extent on this...

354 posted on 05/16/2005 4:45:23 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Pikamax

Anti-US demonstrations in some countries.

The enemy posts this stuff on web sites for recruiting purposes.

The anti-American agenda beats their chest. Other news agencies repeat the story.

The US anti-war, anti-military crowd feels Justified.

Riots in some places.

Flag burnings abroad.

The story was beaten repeatedly in the international media, the correction I heard “ONCE”. Our image is tarnished.




After the fact, Newsweek says "Ooops-sorry about that". I guess it's no big deal? "It's all good" Right? Even their apology is probably not forthcoming. Just a quick reaction to head off what would have come had they not retracted their false claim. So they go back on what they say, but do so in a way where they keep face and maintain that their might be "some" truth to this. Disgusting. Just make it grey enough to where they can't be sued for slander.

But what can you expect of a magazine that published an article in 2003 claiming the war in Iraq only went so well because of "Clinton’s Army". Giving Clinton credit for the militaries success when it was he like no other in history who “bled” the DoD and even coined a term for it, “Peace Dividend”.

If I write something hideous and untruthful. If this harms someone, maybe causes them to loose a job, have their marriage break up and this person is labeled as a crook. If later the truth is unveiled that it’s just BS (CBS-Dan Rather style), the victim gets what? “Ooops, sorry about that.” But the media will surly want to keep the $$millions$$ they made.

Like Rather, that journalist deserves to be exposed and fired. That’s after he apologizes in print, radio and TV. While I understand the need for a free press, I also understand the concept of “responsibility”. The writer of this story is either: 1. Incompetent and needs fired. 2. Lied, is unethical/unprofessional and needs fired. What is it? Liar or idiot? Always give people options!

Red6


355 posted on 05/16/2005 4:47:25 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
Get a load of this......

Muslims doubt Quran climbdown

"We will not be deceived by this," Islamic cleric Mullah Sadullah Abu Aman told Reuters in the northern Afghan province of Badakhshan.

"This is a decision by America to save itself. It comes because of American pressure. Even an ordinary illiterate peasant understands this and won't accept it."

356 posted on 05/16/2005 4:50:15 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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To: tiredoflaundry

You're 100% right!

"Their shoddy ass journalism got people killed.

Sorry isn't cutting it !"


Red6


357 posted on 05/16/2005 4:52:40 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Pikamax

Wow....hope all those dead people will see it in their heavenly hearts to accept the Newsweek apology.

BUSH HATING B*STARDS!!!!!!! does the first amendment protect SLANDER??????


359 posted on 05/16/2005 5:06:02 AM PDT by Vaquero ('I'm a Red Stater, trapped in the body of a Blue State')
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To: Pikamax
NEWSWEEK KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN MY GUNS EVER DID!
360 posted on 05/16/2005 5:10:45 AM PDT by Vaquero ('I'm a Red Stater, trapped in the body of a Blue State')
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To: OXENinFLA
C-span's WJ is about to take calls on this..............

This is very dangerous reporting as we have found out over the week-end.  The riots and the killings all over a stupid miss-guided news article.

We all know what happened to Dan Rather.

I don't know how Newsweek is going to get out from under this now since so many have been killed over this.

I heard on Fox this morning that "they" are screaming that Newsweek needs to go before a trial and charged for murder.

361 posted on 05/16/2005 5:16:48 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: OXENinFLA

Do you think these jerks even care?

1. Most in the media consider soldiers to be a bunch of idiots anyway.

2. Most journalists hate Bush and still can't get over the fact that despite 85% of them; the American public "LIKES HIM" and voted for him.

3. For a buck most Journalists will sell their mothers soul.

4. The media likes it’s “scandals”. As a really good journalist once told me (He really was a good one), “Without conflict, there is no story.”

Do you really think Newsweek or the writer of the story gave any thought about the consequences? But I assure you he did think "This scandal will make me Mr. Big-Time". Even without all the facts, even with it unsubstantiated, he probably heard something somewhere from someone who he can’t reveal. The details like “Is this true?” were probably never looked into very hard.

Do you think Newsweek going back on the story, or revising it was done voluntarily or to head off a legal suite? Their thought was probably: "Hmmmmm, we got caught with our pants down, how do we fade this into the grey, or make it fuzzy enough so they can't come after us?"

Newsweek don't give a dam about the fall out! They probably already have a whole legal team working the issue, insuring their precious money, made with this bogus story, is safe.

Nice BLOG.

Red6


362 posted on 05/16/2005 5:21:21 AM PDT by Red6
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To: robertpaulsen
On an "Atrocity" scale of 0 to 10, the events in this story are about a .002. On a "Bad Things That Can Happen To Innocents Overseas If We Publish This Story" scale of 0 to 10, this would be a 9.9999.

That really is the point, but we have become so acclimated to media irresponsibility cloaked by bogus first amendment claims that we've lost any sense of outrage.

On second thought, calling it irresponsible is a bit bland. Subversive is a better term. Deliberate sabotage even better.

The question now is, having seen how easily the ummah can be provoked into a blood-lust frenzy, can the MSM resist a repeat performance down the road? I doubt it.

363 posted on 05/16/2005 5:27:12 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: wagglebee
And I don't want to hear First Amendment Rights on this one.

Newsweek attacks the 2nd Amendment all the time, yet an article they ran has killed more people than anyone with a gun could possibly do.

364 posted on 05/16/2005 5:37:33 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Life is like a cow pasture, it's hard to get through without stepping in some mess.)
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To: JulieRNR21
A few days ago...I heard someone on a talk radio show (maybe Tony Snow???) report that the detainees did it to clog the plumbing as a form of protest. Where did you hear those details?

I read it here, and don't recall the original source that the post cited.

Reading around a little bit, I find that the Islamic tendency to resort to violence was incited by an amplification of Newsweek's paragraph.

Although the original report in Newsweek was small, it was re-broadcast by television networks such as al-Jazeera and al-Arabiya and in Pakistan it was quoted by Imran Khan, the cricketer-turned-politician, at a press conference. He said it would strengthen the impression that America's War on Terror was against Muslims.

Newsweek sparks global riots with one paragraph on Koran - By Catherine Philp - May 14, 2005

Ahhh - here is a source for the "prisoner did it" version. It was Gen. Myers, citing Gen. Craddock and a written log entry. I'm sure many Muslims would NEVER believe a story that a true Muslim would desecrate the Koran. A report of that would also be taken as an excuse to riot, as the infidels were printing lies.

Gen. Myers told reporters in Washington that Army Gen. Bantz J. Craddock, the head of U.S. Southern Command, has "been in Guantanamo for the last couple of days digging into this issue to see if there was a time when the Koran was not respected."

"They have looked through the logs, the interrogation logs, and they cannot confirm yet that there was ever the case of the toilet incident," Gen. Myers said.

He did note "a log entry, which they still have to confirm, where a detainee was reported by a guard to be ripping pages out of a Koran and putting them in a toilet to stop it up as a protest," he said. "But not where the U.S. did it."

Koran flushing not confirmed - Guy Taylor - Wash. Times - May 13, 2005

ANd finally, here is an opinion piece that blames the Muslims for rioting, and belittles the State Department for appeasement.

MIM: As was to be expected, an investigation proved that no incidents of Korans being put on or into toilets had ever taken place at Gitmo. The last two days are a case study in conspiracy and mass hysteria in the Muslim world, and illustrate the profound gap between the Muslim world and the West. As of today the death tolls stand at 7 people who were killed in riots after the story was circulated that American guards at Guatanamo Bay had 'desecrated' the Koran by flushing it into a toilet.The absurdity of the charge, which would have resulted in plumbing problems, and been technically impossible, was never raised. Instead, US officials showed abject dhimmitude and squirmed while decrying the (unproven) mistreatment of what they called "The Holy Koran". Now that the truth, has emerged, namely that a Muslim prisoner is reported to have put pages of the Koran in a toilet to clog it , the state department and military have been more worried about appeasing Muslim rage instead of agressively asserting the facts. As a result of this dhimmitude protests have spread to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Gaza.

Indeed, it looks like the beginning of a world wide Jihad - sparked by a Muslim who put the pages of his Koran in an American surpervised toilet at Gitmo in what can only be termed - the filth and the fury.

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/605


365 posted on 05/16/2005 5:39:13 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Pikamax
I didn't catch his name, but some high Newsweak honcho appeared "live" late last night on the Geraldo show for a brief statement on behalf of his rag.

He was an incredible little wussy, spoke in a most weak, tentative and unconvincing tone. He had the frozen, scared expression of a weasel caught in the headlights.

As Colonel Hunt put it a few minutes later "it was a half-assed apology"....and it was.

Congrats to Rivera for getting the exclusive on this guy's televised statement. Fox viewers were able to get a rare look at a behind-the-scenes media perp.

We tend to think of media titans as strong, powerful, well-spoken individuals. Listening to this honcho is proof that some of them are weak, cowardly and lying bastados. They obviously hate the country that makes them wealthy......and they hate the military that protects them.

This guy made me want to hurl....and I'm not alone. I never saw Colonel Hunt so angry and glowering as he was last night right after he heard the Newsweakling's weaseling statement.

Leni

366 posted on 05/16/2005 5:39:20 AM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: devolve; Bennett46; CFC__VRWC; Straight Vermonter
Isn't it interesting how the same scum (Isikoff/Newsweak) keep floating to the top of the pond? Isikoff had the goods on the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal but sat on it for weeks, cross-checking facts, double-checking, triple-checking, and still ended up spiking it because it would hurt Clinton. Yet along comes an unnamed single-source, non-credible story that is perceived to somehow damage Bush and the U.S. effort in the WOT, and they run the thing as if it were the gospel truth.

With this kind of agenda-driven laziness and incompetence, the sooner the lamstream press withers away and dies, the better. We don't need 'Rat-party hacks posing as reliable sources of information. Better to have "alternate media" than lying, ideological "traditional" media.

367 posted on 05/16/2005 5:44:01 AM PDT by chimera
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To: cvq3842

Emmett Till case

Could you refresh my memory on this? Thanks.


368 posted on 05/16/2005 5:45:18 AM PDT by Valin (The glass is 1/32 full! - The incredible optimist)
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To: OXENinFLA; All

Question: Does Al-Jazeera print the same stories in Arabic?


369 posted on 05/16/2005 5:49:11 AM PDT by Valin (The glass is 1/32 full! - The incredible optimist)
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To: robertpaulsen
The story killed those innocents, not the lie.

The rioters killed those innocents. Sure as the bully beats up the person who taunts him.

What you seem to be advocating is a whole lotta appeasement, based on the fact that Muslims all over the world are hot and bothered against Western civilization in general, and American interests in particular.

What Newsweek did was despicable too. Newsweek needs to apologize to the America for trying to blacken its eye. The rioters need to be taken to the justice shed for their physical actions.

370 posted on 05/16/2005 5:51:26 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Vaquero

does the first amendment protect SLANDER?

No..and...yes. But it would have to be proved in court that newsweek knew this story was wrong and ran with it anyway.
"Sullivan V NY Times"


371 posted on 05/16/2005 5:52:20 AM PDT by Valin (The glass is 1/32 full! - The incredible optimist)
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To: Cboldt

The rioters killed those innocents.

But who provoked them?


372 posted on 05/16/2005 5:54:23 AM PDT by Valin (The glass is 1/32 full! - The incredible optimist)
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To: AppyPappy

Is there stores there to loot?


373 posted on 05/16/2005 5:54:40 AM PDT by Unicorn
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To: Pikamax

Editors@newsweek.com:

Dear Newsweek Editors,

So Newsweek ran with an unverified story from a single source, got 16 people killed and over 100 injured with massive PR damage to the USA?

How are you going to compensate the victims and their families? Newsweek lied and people died!

Even Dan Rather didn't go that far to make Bush look bad.

Henry Norris
Raleigh, NC USA


374 posted on 05/16/2005 5:57:29 AM PDT by hnorris (Deserve Victory)
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To: Valin

Actually, the Muslims will probably continue to believe it no matter what, because they WANT to believe it. Now that Newsweek has done this, no retraction in the world is going to make them drop this. They are ignorant people manipulated by power-crazed fanatics.

However, I think Newsweek should suffer for this grossly negligent act, and should have to apologize and pay some kind of compensation. That's the only thing that might make them think twice next time.


375 posted on 05/16/2005 6:02:05 AM PDT by livius
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To: Valin
The rioters killed those innocents.
But who provoked them?

Al Jazeera. Everybody knows what Newsweek prints is half truth. It is irresponsible to repeat it, and irresponsible to believe it (tongue half in cheek).

I try to make clear in my posts that I think the error in Newsweek's report is indefensible, BTW. So are the rioter's actions.

376 posted on 05/16/2005 6:03:00 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: chimera
'Rat-party hacks posing as reliable sources of information.

Good observation. This is a cabal of immense size, power... and alligned with the DNC.... POWER!

377 posted on 05/16/2005 6:04:19 AM PDT by johnny7 (Ever wonder what's the 'crust' in 'Ol Crusty'?)
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To: Mathemagician
Why would the liberals want to report US interrogation techniques to our enemies? Knowing that the lunatic cults will go wacko?

Maybe the liberals just wanted the "Arab" street to finally rise up, as they have predicted all along, but never saw happen? Then they could "report" that Bush's WOT is failing because the lunatics don't love us anymore.

Just as the liberals have cast the Islamic cults as victims in Israel for 40 years, they are now in the process of casting Saddam and Sons as innocent victims of the US.

Very transparent, and the same old play-book.

378 posted on 05/16/2005 6:07:34 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: livius
Actually, the Muslims will probably continue to believe it no matter what, because they WANT to believe it. Now that Newsweek has done this, no retraction in the world is going to make them drop this.

The underlying theme that Newsweek is trying to perpetrate is that (some) Americans disrespect the Muslim religion and Muslims, and more particularly, that some of these are in positions of official power.

Is that theme accurate? Are there military people, guards, soldiers, etc. who disrespect the Muslim religion and Muslims? If so, the rioting Muslim masses will feel self-justified in their action.

Turn it around. Are there Muslims that disresepct the Christian religion and Christians? I see a religios war, and IMO, it was started by the Muslims.

379 posted on 05/16/2005 6:13:19 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Pikamax

The biggest impact any of us will have to is boycott Newsweek, both their advertisers, and the subscription department.


381 posted on 05/16/2005 6:31:17 AM PDT by khenrich (Hillary is changing her colors. She's a chameleon. No, she's a liberal.)
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To: Mathemagician
This story has always had two or more questions involved, the blood-lust for Newsweek, (and rightfully so), but the larger questions of the Islamic cults and their continued quest for victim-hood.

Do we continue to feed that vicimhood?

Isn't this religious intolerance to the point of murder by Islamics not willing to proceed to the 21st century, and their inability to accept modernity the whole of our problem?

Is not their refusal to deal in political disputes at the table instead of with a suicide bomber to blackmail a government, a sign of their unwillingness to become civilized?

I say we turn our ire towards the cults, and the Arab media, who love the deaths of those they incite and refuse to educate thru their own media.
382 posted on 05/16/2005 6:34:32 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Red6
Do you really think Newsweek or the writer of the story gave any thought about the consequences?

Yeah, I think he did know this would have anti-American ramifications but I don't think he thought it would happen this fast or as far away as it did.

He may have just thought about how it would get played here in the US media and didn't take into account how this would be use by some muslims as a propaganda tool.

Do you think Newsweek going back on the story, or revising it was done voluntarily or to head off a legal suite?

Head off a legal suit......

383 posted on 05/16/2005 6:35:26 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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To: KittyKares

And why do I have this "feeling" that like their co-conspirator, SeeBS, having learned nothing, they will continue to make these false reports?


384 posted on 05/16/2005 6:48:06 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Pikamax
The families of the people who died have a pretty good wrongful death suit against Newsweek. Hope the sue them into bankruptcy. It's nothing more than a stupid tabloid.
385 posted on 05/16/2005 6:54:32 AM PDT by monday
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To: Valin
In 1955, a young black man was apparently lynched, or otherwise murdered, in the US after a story went around that he whistled at a white woman, or something like that. Obviously whistling is not a crime, and the blame for the murder lies with those who committed it. The same could be said for the Newsweek situation. My only point was that Newsweek had to have known it was "stirring the pot" with an inflammatory story on skimpy, or no, evidence. Not only is it irresponsible, but past a certain point such actions appear DESIGNED to evoke some kind of response - disdain for the US effort at the very least - because the consequences are so foreseeable.

Maybe the analogy is strained, I don't know. I could also ask whether it's ironic that the press runs with stories like these after trashing the Bush administration for itself (allegedly) not being thorough enough in vetting stories about WMDs in Iraq.
386 posted on 05/16/2005 6:55:08 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Pikamax

When Newsweak lied people died. Has a familiar ring to it.


387 posted on 05/16/2005 6:57:22 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Pikamax

Newsweek has shown its complete lack of seriousness on this issue.... Not only by publishing a FALSE REPORT... causing deaths... but frankly even if it were true, publishing it at a time of war in the first place.

Thanks Newsweek, now more of our citizens and soldiers will die thanks to your stupidity and political hatred of the current administration. Ever dead soldier and citizen that is killed in the Muslim world from this point on... puts blood on your hands!

Cowards and Traitors!


388 posted on 05/16/2005 6:57:38 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: monday
Newsweek senior writer talking about Burger King and McDonalds on MSNBC this morning. It's amazing how they can go from killing people to giving restaurant reviews.
389 posted on 05/16/2005 7:00:51 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: khenrich
The biggest impact any of us will have to is boycott Newsweek, both their advertisers, and the subscription department.

I forgot about their advertisers. We could write to them, too, and let them know why.

390 posted on 05/16/2005 7:02:46 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: sirchtruth
"but to go bonkers and KILL people over flushin' a Koran is ludicrous.

You can only hold NW responsible to a certain extent on this..."


Everyone knows Muslims are 'bonkers' by now. I mean, they kill innocent people and expect to be rewarded by God for it. If that isn't bonkers, what is?

Anyone with the common sense of a cockroach could have predicted they would riot and kill if they hear of someone desecrating their holy book. They are frigging nuts. Newsweek is totally responsible.
391 posted on 05/16/2005 7:04:19 AM PDT by monday
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To: Pikamax

Isn't Newsweek guilty of blasphemy? That's a pretty serious crime in some quarters.


392 posted on 05/16/2005 7:04:50 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Pikamax

Will the MSM ever be held accountable?


393 posted on 05/16/2005 7:06:52 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Pikamax

This story just makes me sick. WHAT is going on with these Libs? Are they ALL mentally ill???

I imagine DU is celebrating.

I am glad this is getting some attention, although not nearly to the degree it deserves.

Wish the SeeBS Ken Starr deception would get a brighter spotlight, too. I've seen no mention of it on Fox, Drudge, anywhere.


394 posted on 05/16/2005 7:24:23 AM PDT by halieus (www.fraud.org)
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To: Pikamax
You know I'm sure a bunch of us are tired of these whiny assed muslims. They sound just like harry reid and the liberals. i wouldn't apologize to a single one of those illiterate barbarians over in the desert. their religious leaders must have taken classes on media manipulation and propaganda from rev. jackson and the libs in congress. if this country didn't have mercy we and russia woulda blasted everyone and split the world up by now.
395 posted on 05/16/2005 7:24:51 AM PDT by pangaea6
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To: Mathemagician
"For his sake, I hope the muslim world doesn't learn that Mr. Isikoff personally flushed five Korans down the toilet in order to check whether it could be done."

Yep, Micheal Isikoff is in serious trouble. He is the only American who truly hates Muslims. When Muslims discover that he ritually desecrates the Koran before he goes to bed every night, they are going to come after him. May Allah have mercy on his soul....

whoo-haa
396 posted on 05/16/2005 7:25:33 AM PDT by monday
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To: NormsRevenge
Heads need to roll at Newsweek and in the media elites ranks.

I don't want them fired, I want them in jail. Only a high profile court case that goes on for months will make it finally into the ME conciousness that this was a lie.

397 posted on 05/16/2005 7:32:04 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Pikamax

Where are the bumperstickers? "Newsweek Lied. People Died."


398 posted on 05/16/2005 7:33:13 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Remind Liberal Cowards Why America Freed Iraq: http://massgraves.info/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Leavenworth.


399 posted on 05/16/2005 7:34:53 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: monday
The families of the people who died have a pretty good wrongful death suit against Newsweek. Hope the sue them into bankruptcy. It's nothing more than a stupid tabloid.

It will make an interesting suit. Warner Brothers beat theirs against the Jenny Jones show. It will be precedent setting if liability is found against Newsweek for the criminal actions of others.

400 posted on 05/16/2005 7:53:05 AM PDT by Cboldt
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