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NASA science uncovers texts of Trojan Wars, early Gospel
Chicago Tribune ^ | May 19, 2005 | Tom Hundley

Posted on 05/19/2005 9:31:48 AM PDT by mlc9852

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To: Tsunamii
"It is amazing. Not everything is a conspiracy. Sometimes people have different interpretations of the same events but that is not an attack on your religion. Extremist on any side worry me, not ancient texts.

Actually, I think it's the different interpretations that lend credence to an event. As a retired LEO, I would smell a rat if two witnesses got up in court and told the exact same story. Real life just doesn't happen that way.

41 posted on 05/19/2005 10:37:48 AM PDT by Chinito (6990th Security Group, RC-135/Combat Apple, Class of '68)
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To: mlc9852
If find it hard to believe that the lyric poet Archilocus "chronicled" the events of the Trojan War.

Even if he had "written" about Troy (Homer's works were oral epics), it'd probably more like Dan Rather writing bathroom graffiti dis'ing our troops in Iraq.

42 posted on 05/19/2005 10:38:04 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Adder
So far, if I have this right, we haven't found any "lost" documents, like some lost play of Euripedes.

"Fascination because it holds some of the lost masterpieces of classical literature . . ."

43 posted on 05/19/2005 10:38:45 AM PDT by aQ_code_initiate
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To: MEGoody

"Some "scholars", as in the so called "Jesus Seminar"."

Also occasionally known as "Gnostics on Crack". :]


44 posted on 05/19/2005 10:38:49 AM PDT by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Kenny Bunkport
the Gospel of Thomas - it's funny that the writer of this article refers to the Gospel of Thomas without saying whether it is actually included in this dump of papyari. The Gospel of Thomas is very popular with critics of traditional (Catholic & Protestant) Christianity. It contains a lot of goofy sayings like: GoT 114: Simon Peter said to them, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven." --
45 posted on 05/19/2005 10:40:19 AM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: Chinito
making them very difficult to work with

Gee, ya think!? LOL

46 posted on 05/19/2005 10:43:48 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: Dead Dog

Well, you, my friend, know more about our Bible than I.

I'm not a very good Christian, either. I asked my husband once if he really thought he would get to Heaven, and he said: "Yeah, but I'll be on probation for a while."


47 posted on 05/19/2005 10:57:49 AM PDT by peacebaby (I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man, I keep his house. Zsa Zsa Gabor)
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To: ghost of nixon

Sounds like "Thomas" was Muslim.


48 posted on 05/19/2005 11:00:06 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: ColoCdn
occasionally known as "Gnostics on Crack".

ROFL...I'm going to have to remember that one.

49 posted on 05/19/2005 11:00:44 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: mlc9852

I hope this isn't more mis-information from the "Jesus Seminar" frauds!


50 posted on 05/19/2005 11:01:48 AM PDT by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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To: mlc9852
My thought was they would wonder about all those fast food containers.

LOL. And how were ruled by the Burger King, his knight Big Mac, and his royal consort Wendy.

51 posted on 05/19/2005 11:22:21 AM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: ghost of nixon

Just out of curiosity, why do you consider that any goofier than the following?

1 Corinthians, 14:34-35: "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."


52 posted on 05/19/2005 12:08:10 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: Dead Dog

Yes, I was aware that one and a half thousand years later the Roman Catholic church decides they are part of their cannon. Do you believe that is correct? They needed parts of those texts to help substantiate parts of their doctrine. Hence they added them to the Bible.


53 posted on 05/19/2005 12:26:44 PM PDT by protest1
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To: CIDKauf
Gets worse than that...Constantine the Great, Roman Emperor in 300 AD stopped persecuting Christians "by decree of the Roman Emperor" and moved his palace to Instanbul, renaming the city Constantinople, creating Catholisism, and establishing "the Father, the Son and the holy Ghost" in heaven leaving himself in charge on earth, ruling for 1100 years before Mohammed the Conquerer invaded in 1453, burning the city and destroying the Roman collected original Christian biblical documents, killing Constantine the 11th and reclaiming Instanbul. Some 250 years later, King James I collected Hebrew, Greek Orthadox, Latin, and other versions of the Bible, and translating them into English and writing the the King James Bible for the Church of England.

1. The town we now know as Istanbul was founded in 600 BC by the Greeks and named Byzantium. It became part of the Roman Empire in 73 AD, and was renamed Constantinople after Constantine in 330 AD. Contantinople fell to the Muslims in 1453, and was referred to thereafter as Istanbul, though the name was not officially changed until the 1930's.

2. Constantine did not create Catholicism. Catholicism had already existed for some 300 years by the time Constantine converted to Christianity.

3. Constantine did not establish "the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost" in Heaven. The doctrine of the Trinity had existed for centuries before Constantine was born.

4. When Mehmet the Conqueror conquered Constantinple in 1453, he was not "reclaiming" anything. Constantinople had been Christian for centuries before Mohammed was even born.

5. Though Mehmet's goons violated Constantinople, the city as a whole was not burned, and countless "original Christian biblical documents" are safe and sound to this day.

54 posted on 05/19/2005 12:35:16 PM PDT by Bohemund
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To: Bohemund; CIDKauf
Is the Bible reliable?
55 posted on 05/19/2005 12:55:58 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: mlc9852
...some early Christian gospels that do not appear in the New Testament.

That would be because they don't belong in the New Testament.

56 posted on 05/19/2005 1:15:14 PM PDT by streetpreacher (God DOES exist; He's just not into you!)
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To: streetpreacher

Isn't it nice how that works out?


57 posted on 05/19/2005 1:16:08 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: patriot_wes

Nice tagline ;-)


58 posted on 05/19/2005 1:17:51 PM PDT by streetpreacher (God DOES exist; He's just not into you!)
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To: MEGoody

mostly cause they like gnosticism better.


59 posted on 05/19/2005 1:19:42 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: mlc9852

I'd be much more interested if they found a c. 70-90 AD Aramaic copy of one of the Gospels.


60 posted on 05/19/2005 1:23:44 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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