NASA science uncovers texts of Trojan Wars, early Gospel

Chicago Tribune ^ | May 19, 2005 | Tom Hundley

[johnb838]

This is insane. We have better things to spend our money on than some stupid x-ray vision device. What about the poor, mlc9852??? WHAT ABOUT THE POOR?

[Dead Dog]

Well, you, my friend, know more about our Bible than I.

I sincerely doubt that. I hope your husband is right about the probation period. I'd be happy for that opportunity.

[Steve_Seattle]

"mostly cause they like gnosticism better"

Many of the Gnostic gospel enthusiasists have never actuallly read any of them, but have had them described in a general way by sympathetic scholars such as Elaine Pagels. But if you actually read them, the first thing that strikes you is their pomposity, pretentiousnes, and weird mythology. You see why the church rejected them, and you rush back to the real Bible like a miner coming up for a breath of fresh air. The Gnostic gospels have to be sanitized and scrubbed to make them palatable to a modern audience.

[johnb838]

They've already found worse than a playboy in Pompeii... which seemed to favor artwork featuring the male appendage, either as a sign of power or virility.

[mlc9852]

The poor made themselves that way - let them figure out how to get rich by themselves. LOL

It's Bush's fault anyway!

[johnb838]

My sense about Thomas is that it is a genuine writing of the era. The Catholic Church at Nicea did not include it in the Canon for a reason. I would assume because it did not add anything to the other four Gospels. It is a collection of the sayings of Jesus in the style of the Proverbs. Many, if not most of the sayings are found in the Gospels already. Many of the rest are other ways of phrasing the same thoughts. It is no DaVinci code and doesn't compromise the faith in any way.

I happen to revere Thomas, and I say more power to the Gospel of Thomas, but let us leave it as what it is -- a book to read and reflect upon, not really another Gospel.

[peacebaby]

"1 Corinthians, 14:34-35: "Let your women keep silence in the churches: ... "

someone should have remembered that when Hillary Clinton gave sermons in her Methodist church.

[johnb838]

The Bible said it; I believe it; and that settles it.

Which version? Translated from what? Interpreted by whom?

[peacebaby]

Comforting to know no change. It would upset my balance; I am only a child without great knowledge and alot of faith.

[mdmathis6]

I wonder how many other scraps of nothing are just lying around that have the most profound things written on them say from Atlantis but they are overlooked as lumps of stone or hardened rock!

[Dinsdale]

Well you should know the Bible was edited by commitee in about the year 300.

That was when the Gosple of Thomas was banned. BTW they have many copies of Thomas in several languages. It was written before Mathew Mark Luke or John.

Do little research you might learn something.

[ZULU]

"Examining those carbonized manuscripts under different wavelengths of light suddenly revealed writing that had been invisible to scholars for two centuries."

Should read "...for two millenia" not "...for two centuries"


I wonder when this stuff will be availbe for the general public to read?

[johnb838]

Hi Mr. Ramsbottom, we meet again! Wouldn't Jesus have kissed his other disciples on the mouth too? In a non-sexual way of course.

[Prince Charles]

All of it was collected from the rubbish dumps of Oxyrhynchus, a city that flourished after the conquest of Egypt by Alexander the Great in 332 B.C. The city remained prominent in the Roman and Byzantine periods but declined after the Arab conquest in A.D. 641.

Gee, those Mohammedans sure were a tolerant folk, even back then.

[peacebaby]

kindness and grace, Dinsdale.

[ZULU]

I think the Gospel of St. Thomas was a Gnostic text found at Nag Hammadi in Egypt.

Gnostiscism was a "heresy" suppressed by the Pauline Roman Church.

[mdmathis6]

I wonder how many other scraps of nothing are just lying around that have the most profound things written on them say from Atlantis but they are overlooked as lumps of stone or hardened rock!

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I have read the Gospel of Thomas and several others. Your description is good.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

prominent in the Roman and Byzantine periods but declined after the Arab conquest

What else is new?

[mlc9852]

Everywhere they go, culture declines.