Skip to comments.Gary Bauer Calls Senate Judicial Deal a 'Sell Out'
Posted on 05/23/2005 8:19:01 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
Former Presidential Candidate Gary Bauer issued the following statement late Monday as news of the "travesty" to justice deal on stalled judicial nominees was released.
The President of American Values said: "This is a sad day for our nation. The desire of millions of Americans to restore balance to our federal courts has been thwarted behind closed doors by 14 senators. Only three of President Bush's appointees are guaranteed an up or down vote under this sell out.
"Under this agreement it is now more likely that radical social change will continue to be forced on the American people by liberal courts committed to same sex marriage, abortion on demand and hostility to religious expression. The Republicans who lent their names to this travesty have undercut their President as well as millions of their most loyal voters. Shame on them all."
"And He made a scrouge of cords, and drove them all out of the temple.....and poured out the coins of the moneychangers, and overturned their tables."
"And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came up out of the winepress, as deep as a horse's bridle, for a distance of about 200 miles."
I heard Reid say the Michigan Judges would get a vote, but then I think he backed off on Saad. But then one of the "Michigan" judges is from Ohio and that appeals court is in Cincy so the details are a bit muddled.
Still if we get six or seven, no further filibusters until a couple of more Dims go down in reelection battles, ie Nelson and Nelson, and the GOP either later changes the judicial filibuster rule or filibusters the first slightly leftist nominee of the next Dim president, then this is a deal I can live with. It is just that it will be a long time before we know for sure unless the Dims try to not live up to the deal this Congress and the GOP has the guts to call them on it.
Have politicians ever been known to break a promise?
Republicans got nothing from this deal that they couldn't have gotten by cutting off the filibuster. This was no horse trade -- it was a give away.
This is a Constitutional issue.
ANYONE who bargains away Constituional rights is a traitor.
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which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not
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and in thy name done many wonderful works?
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from me, ye that work iniquity.
we are saying the same thing about the republicans on DU, in regard to "exceptional cirsumstances"
We thought that's what we did last November.
This is a Constitutional issue.
ANYONE who bargains away Constituional rights is a traitor.
Even the NYT calls it a "modest victory for Bush" LOL
It will be interesting to see if the 14 can hang together or not. I would guess that Linsey Graham has sealed his fate in SoCar. He was very foolish to involve himself in this. Imagine how he will feel when Bryd loses in 2006.
I agree, those who made the deal on both sides have no guts or principle
Here's an informed opinion: Bush will very quickly nominate Mike Wallace, a lawyer from Mississippi and former Rehnquist law clerk, to the Fifth Circuit.
The Dems will freak because Wallace was Trent Lott's counsel for the Clinton impeachment- as conservative as they come.
Aren't you being a bit EXTREME. There must be some strategery involved. Certainly, no Republican can be dumb enough agree to a deal like this, if there is no bigger victory lurking around the next bend in the road. Relent! Continue to give to the RNC! After all, if it weren't for the Moderates in the Senate refusing to convict Der Schlickmeister, we would be starting the 2nd term of President Algore and with all the comity shown by Senate Pubs, who knows what the courts would look like.
How could you move for a rules change without a filibuster? And, as I told you, enough Dems would have voted for cloture to prevent a filibuster and preclude an opportunity to introduce a rules change motion.
Would rich Oil men count?
Actually, the US Constitution provides for the US Senate to make its own rules. It's Article I, section 5, clause 2.
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The GOP Senators did not want to change the filibuster rules. I don't blame them, IF THEY INTEND TO FILIBUSTER FUTURE DIM OUT OF THE MAINSTREAM JUDICIAL APPOINTEES. That to me is the implied long term promise.
That is what they got. If for giving up two of the seven, they kept their right to filibuster future Dim radical left appointees AND THEY USE THAT RIGHT, then it is not as bad a deal as some make it out to be. In addition, I think Bush should now reappoint Estada and then appoint him to the US Supreme Court in June.
I simply cannot stand that man.
Very nice tip. That would quickly make this deal show dividens or bring it crashing down.
"BUSH CANNOT PERMIT THIS TO STAND. If need be, he must choose July 4th as the line on the sand. Bush must tell the Senate: "You will allow an up or down vote on EVERY nominee by July 4th, or on that Independence Day, I shall recess appoint whomever is fillibustered, and take my fight to the people, and against the obstructionists, in the midterm elections"
Stephens, Inc., also helped introduce the BCCI virus into US banking in 1978 when it arranged the sale of Bert Lance's National Bank of Georgia to BCCI front man Ghaith Pharoan. (The head of Stephens, Inc., Jackson Stephens, is a member of President Bush's exclusive "Team 100," a group of 249 wealthy individuals who have contributed at least $100,000 each to the GOP's presidential-campaign committee.)
Is this a MoneyChanger?
It is a "great" deal for the Republicans. I am a dem, and frankly I was NOT represented by my side
That's generally nice. However, you trust the Democrats much to much. I suspect that they would nuke the filibuster the second they felt it was getting in their way.
youre absolutely right....once again there is a blatant disregard of the constitution. this 'deal' stands the real meaning of 'advise and consent' on it's ear.
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Lindsay might be toast. He earning it.
Now tell me PLEASE, what do you know about SHEETS losing in '06?
Do we have a good one to unseat him? Here, I've been thinking the old byrd would die on the floor of the senate chamber!
this is Senate rules, not Constitutional rules
What then? This is precisely why politics is called "the art of the possible." This sort of thing is what is going to keep the Sunni, Shi'a, and Kurds from butchering one another in Iraq, and believe me, if you think the Dems and Pubbies are passionate on the issue, those boys make us look calm by comparison.
We can't stop fighting for our judicial nominees, of course. It's just going to have to be under slightly altered conditions, if in fact they are altered at all. This is just really interesting, and I'm going to have to consider the matter at much greater length to say any more.
I don't know anything of course as nobody could at this point in time. It is just that the state is trending GOP and his is racing to the left. His performances in general are probably a bit embarrasing to increasingly suburban W.Va.
I read a little something about the GOP putting a true conservative up against him that had come very close in a prior statewide election. That could make this something like Thune v. Dashel hopefully.
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Autopsy results indicated a total degeneration of the intestines (guts), spinal chord (bacbone) and testicles.
No wake is expected as no mourners are available.
Requiescat in oblivion.
That's pretty much the point.
The term is meaningless.
When the next confrontation rolls out we'll be treated to all sorts historical misrepresentation. All of a sudden we'll be told the entire constitution rises and falls on the foundation of the exceptional circumstances standard. Never mind it just got made up. :-)
I don't trust them. I preferred changing the rules because I suspect the GOP will never filibuster any radical Dim nominee.
But now that we have this deal, we have to evaluate how good or bad it is.
yeah, I know, most are moderates. What I find interesting is your side seems as equally pissed as those at DU, but I think you got a great deal and really gave up nothing, and why should you? You won Congress and the executive branch in 2004.
It was not a sell out. It was black mail.
The reason this happened is the FBI Files the Clinton Administration grabbed on the Republicans. They are afraid the Dems will do to them at the Dems did to Henry Hyde.
Anytime something this stupid by the Republicans comes up, every time you say to yourself, "how stupid can the Republicans be?" this is the answer.
And the answer for all of us is to vote out the Republican incumbants in the next primary. We have to get the extorted GOP members out of Congress.
Hell, if we tell him it will set a Sssssenate Precedent, he'll probably volunteer!
Nope, it was a boneheaded move by the Republicans. Bauer is right on.
You're assuming that Democrats have a future as a majority party, and everywhere we look we see democrats losing elections and power.
If we judge every present day rules change by what may happen years into the future we'll change nothing, and judicial activism will always be with us.
We live in the present, and we have an obligation to our children to make this country as safe for them as possible. That won't happen by making deals today based on what may happen years from now.
You know, I think he's hanging on JUST to break Strom's record.
I really, really, really want him to lose!
He is an embarrassment. Arrogant old fool.
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Bauer supported McCain. He needs to shut his pie hole.