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Governor, lawmakers in daily contact on Schiavo, e-mails show
Palm Beach Post ^ | May 24, 2005 | Dara Kam

Posted on 05/24/2005 4:53:23 AM PDT by tutstar

TALLAHASSEE — Gov. Jeb Bush was in daily contact with congressional leaders in March as court efforts to intervene on behalf of Terri Schiavo faltered, according to e-mails obtained Monday from the governor's office.

The e-mails, released to The Palm Beach Post in response to a public records request, also show that state lawmakers persevered with legislative maneuvering to keep the severely brain-damaged woman's feeding tube intact, despite advice from Bush's top Schiavo attorney that such an effort was hopeless.

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Well at least we know that there are a few who did not abandon the effort to save Terri.

Maybe after another cup of coffee I can digest the rest of the article.

1 posted on 05/24/2005 4:53:23 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: Nightshift; floriduh voter; cyn; amdgmary; pc93; Future Useless Eater; BykrBayb; Sun; STARWISE

ping


2 posted on 05/24/2005 4:54:22 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: tutstar
Sen. Dan Webster, R-Oviedo, tried vainly to persuade his colleagues to support a bill that was drafted by Gov. Bush's office but which the governor's top Schiavo lawyer dismissed as futile.

Dan Webster is a good guy. The biggest failure in Gov. Bush's efforts occurred here in Florida, where the RINOs (Webster's "colleagues") in the state legislature would not support the effort to save Terri.

Sometimes I think RINOs are even worse than Dems.

3 posted on 05/24/2005 4:57:26 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

RINOs are worse than Dims. You expect a Dim to stab you in the back at every turn, whereas a RINO will stab you in the back without warning. With friends like these...


4 posted on 05/24/2005 5:00:41 AM PDT by Hornet19 (Know what happens to a Democrat that takes Viagra? He just gets a little taller.)
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To: livius

I won't argue with that.

The Florida Nine led by Sen Jim King should not be forgotten and their constituents need to be working now to find candidates to run against them.


5 posted on 05/24/2005 5:03:34 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: Hornet19
Isn't that the truth? bAck stabbers deluxe!!

After King's quote came out I realized that his office must have lied when asked how he was planning to vote on the new bill to save Terri. Saying he was still weighing all the options when in fact he wasn't weighing a dang thing! I'd love to know exactly how many calls/emails his office received asking him to vote to save Terri.

"When all of us decided we were going to vote no, it wasn't to be disruptive.It wasn't even to be collegial, said Sen. Jim King, R-Jacksonville, the author of the state's death with dignity law. We did so because in our heart of hearts we thought it was the right thing to do for Terri and it was certainly the right thing for people who are like Terri."

They already knew how they were going to vote! Recalling King's verbose speech and grandstanding during the debating of the bill is nauseating. Strutting like a peacock and with such dramatic expression it was all just a show! The 9 wasted the time of the rest of the Legislature with their little stunt.

Floridians you need to get busy finding opponents for these party traitors.

6 posted on 05/24/2005 5:11:38 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: tutstar

"Gov. Jeb Bush was in daily contact with congressional leaders in March as court efforts to intervene on behalf of Terri Schiavo faltered, according to e-mails obtained Monday from the governor's office."

Jeb Bush is a gutless wonder who was just posturing--"sellin' wolf tickets" as the kids say. He had the power to use the FL National Guard and FL State Police to rescue
Terri from the Barney Fife Pinellas Park cops but was either too cowardly to do so or didn't really believe in his heart that Terri Schiavo was worth saving. This is what happens when you elect silver-spoon rich kids to high office; they don't have the guts to put up a fight.


7 posted on 05/24/2005 6:02:41 AM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: sawdust

Bush was a day late and a spine short.


8 posted on 05/24/2005 12:32:58 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: tutstar

Some idiots hold Jeb reponsible, and claim to hold the repub's feet to the fire for it. What misplaced idiocy.


9 posted on 05/24/2005 12:35:21 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: livius
... Sometimes I think RINOs are even worse than Dems.

Oh boy, I like 'I thinks'.

Sometimes I think rightwing extremists are even worse than liberals.

10 posted on 05/24/2005 12:37:57 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

"Some idiots hold Jeb reponsible, and claim to hold the repub's feet to the fire for it. What misplaced idiocy."

It's not idiocy nor is it misplaced. Read post 7 above to see what I mean.


11 posted on 05/24/2005 12:58:04 PM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: sawdust
It's not idiocy nor is it misplaced.

Your opinion, newbie.

12 posted on 05/24/2005 1:00:57 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

"Your opinion, newbie."

Over 140 posts and I'm a "newbie". Yeah, whatever GI Joe. You're probably a culture of death type who was happy to see her snuffed.


13 posted on 05/24/2005 1:03:39 PM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: tutstar
The Florida Nine led by Sen Jim King should not be forgotten

This is VERY important. I live in North Florida (not in King's district, though), and I really want to see these guys out. King has been a jerk about everything for years.

14 posted on 05/24/2005 1:05:06 PM PDT by livius
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To: sawdust

Yep, you are a newbie. 140 posts, wow, I am impressed. Not!


15 posted on 05/24/2005 1:06:32 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Hornet19
a RINO will stab you in the back without warning.

As our recent dramatic experience with the filibuster reveals once again...

16 posted on 05/24/2005 1:06:43 PM PDT by livius
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To: 68 grunt

"Yep, you are a newbie. 140 posts, wow, I am impressed. Not!"


I guess that's why you didn't bother deconstructing my argument--because you consider me a newbie. Either that or (more likely) you can't find an INTELLECTUAL basis for defeating my argument so you resort to name calling. Wonderful.


17 posted on 05/24/2005 1:09:02 PM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: 68 grunt
claim to hold the repub's feet to the fire for it

Wonder why?

"When all of us decided we were going to vote no, it wasn't to be disruptive. It wasn't even to be collegial, said Sen. Jim King, R-Jacksonville, the author of the state's death with dignity law. We did so because in our heart of hearts we thought it was the right thing to do for Terri and

it was certainly the right thing for people who are like Terri."

18 posted on 05/24/2005 1:14:26 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: sawdust
Where have I called you a name, newbie? I haven't even read your argument, much less deconstructed it. I don't argue 'intellectually' with the emotionally challenged, and these TS threads demonstrate the direct link between emotionally challenged and disabled via emotion. So, newbie, you may throw a temper tantrum if you wish, but I find arguments unworthy of intellectual response. And, seeing as how you're a newbie and all, please enlighten me as to where have I called you a name? Thanks in advance, newbie.
19 posted on 05/24/2005 1:17:05 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: tutstar

I don't have any problem with that list. I hope the people in Florida kick their collective azzez.


20 posted on 05/24/2005 1:18:40 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

"Newbie" is a name, just like "pinhead." Understand "pinhead", or did Charlie drop a coconut on your head back in '68 or something.


21 posted on 05/24/2005 1:21:03 PM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: livius
You are right! I am in his district and people are not happy with him at all about this. It was the straw that broke the camel's back. I do wonder if some good candidates might be reluctant to run against him because of the amount and political weight of his contributors. The same hospice lobbyist who gave big to King also gave to some of the Pubs who voted against the bills to help Terri.

Maybe if we get enough of these on cars he'll get the message and he'll decide not to run.


22 posted on 05/24/2005 1:22:43 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: tutstar

Thanks for posting the article, Tutstar.

The following is from the article:
Sen. Dan Webster, R-Oviedo, tried vainly to persuade his colleagues to support a bill that was drafted by Gov. Bush's office but which the governor's top Schiavo lawyer dismissed as futile. Ken Connor last fall tried unsuccessfully to persuade the Florida Supreme Court to uphold the "Terri's Law," passed by Florida lawmakers in 2003. That law gave Bush the authority to order Schiavo's feeding tube removed, but the court struck it down in October.
*****End of Quote.

I never understood why the *Terri's Law* of 2004, would have not been the end of Michael Schiavo's ability to end Terri's life. Gordon W Watts, a Freeper had a better ruling to uphold Terri's Law from the Fl Supreme Court, than the Gov's own lawyers. Jeb's ruling was 7-0 against Terri. Watt's received a 4-3 ruling, sadly also against.

If just one more judge would have ruled in Terri's favor, she might have had a chance. Judges decided if Terri should live or die. She didn't even have her own lawyer to defend her. Her stinking husband had a Fleet of lawyers, including the ACLU, to make sure she died.

Guess it's good that Jeb's people were still trying to do something. However, I don't like what the article said about Jeb's top lawyer, Ken Connor. He dimissed/said the bill which was DRAFTED BY THE GOV'S OFFICE, was futile???

What the heck does that mean - Why didn't they write a bill that would have had some teeth in it? My biggest question was always WHY DIDN'T A LAW ALREADY EXIST, which would have saved Terri? Nothing makes sense to me. * Shrug *


23 posted on 05/24/2005 1:25:22 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: sawdust
He had the power to use the FL National Guard and FL State Police to rescue Terri from the Barney Fife Pinellas Park cops but was either too cowardly to do so or didn't really believe in his heart that Terri Schiavo was worth saving.

Yep, nothing like an executive branch member ignoring court rulings, pandering to a very small percentage of citizens (most from outside of his state), and taking the law into their own hands. Who needs a form of republican government within his state? Republicans are in charge so what they say goes and we should put complete trust in Republicans because they would never sell conservatives down the river...

24 posted on 05/24/2005 1:26:42 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: sawdust
My, you certainly stretch to be offensive. You are, in fact, a newbie. This is inarguable. It is what you are, proved by your sign up date. While I may indeed be a pinhead, that is a subjective remark and is 'namecalling'. You seem to have a grudge on GI Joe, and enjoy visions of Charlie dropping coconuts on me. Is your imitation indignity a front for you anti-military feelings? Or are you satisfied with just causing disruption between the pro and con TS'ers?
25 posted on 05/24/2005 1:27:17 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: billbears

"Republicans are in charge so what they say goes and we should put complete trust in Republicans because they would never sell conservatives down the river..."


Ohmigosh! Someone took a wrong turn at DU again.


26 posted on 05/24/2005 1:29:27 PM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: 68 grunt

You know what. I apologize for the "pinhead" remark, and the coconuts remark too. I really do. But the fact that I have not been on these boards as long as you has nothing to do with the merits of my argument. Instead of pointing out my "newness", you could at least have attacked my point on its merits or lack thereof.


27 posted on 05/24/2005 1:31:09 PM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: billbears

"Deo Vindice"

Not in this case, or Terri S. would still be alive.


28 posted on 05/24/2005 1:33:31 PM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: tutstar

* it was certainly the right thing for people who are like Terri."

King needs to explain what the blank he meant. What King said is *Chilling to the Bone*!!! You are right to keep requesting an answer from King.


29 posted on 05/24/2005 1:34:33 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: sawdust
Ohmigosh! Someone took a wrong turn at DU again

No junior I'm not a Republican statist like yourself. I'm a conservative. Perhaps without relying on hyperbole, and without quoting Article I Sec 2 of the Florida Constitution as if it were written by God Himself, you could supply a valid argument for the governor of a state to call out State Guard units to defy a state court order.

Since you won't be able to do either, I expect a link to one of the useless St. Terri sites or another baseless argument relying purely on emotion or what you want the law to say

30 posted on 05/24/2005 1:35:14 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: sawdust
"He had the power to use the FL National Guard and FL State Police to rescue Terri from the Barney Fife Pinellas Park cops but was either too cowardly to do so or didn't really believe in his heart that Terri Schiavo was worth saving."

What an astute observation! lol

31 posted on 05/24/2005 1:39:25 PM PDT by verity (A mindset is an antidote to logic.)
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To: billbears

"junior"

Love the name-calling. You have NO idea how old I am, do you?

"supply a valid argument for the governor of a state to call out State Guard units to defy a state court order"

Here's TWO valid arguments, son:

1. To save someone from being starved to death.
2. To overthrow judicial tyranny.

How's that for starters?


32 posted on 05/24/2005 1:39:39 PM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: sawdust
Alright, after I post this I'll go back and give you a response on your post, okay.

Here is the deal, in the fall of 2004 war was declared upon FR by the DU. They flooded us with infiltrators, and they are still flooding us. All of you are suspect. That doesn't mean that there aren't infiltrators who have been 'sleeping' for a long time. The are typified by not having done profile pages and they have very little, or no, posting history. If you're tarred by the same brush as them, sorry about that. All you can do is let each and everyone of your posts bespeak your character. I can't tell anyone what to do, but I can suggest that in light of this infiltration that newbies try to limit their inputs and opinions to positive statements. If not possible, keep the negativity from being controversial. What I mean by that is not to rant. Just a suggestion. I accept your apology. Please don't think of newbie as pejorative, more accurately it is descriptive.

33 posted on 05/24/2005 1:40:08 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: verity

"What an astute observation!"

Thanks. It's good to see Culture of Life conservatism is still drawing breath on these boards.


34 posted on 05/24/2005 1:40:36 PM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: sawdust

So you now know the mind of God? You know beyond a shadow of a doubt that this was not God's way to allow Terri to go to Heaven? Has the knowledge of the Republican Party now reached into Heaven itself to know God's mind? God is my defender and will remain always so, as was the same with my Southern ancestors. When it's my time to go, I hope and pray that your kind has not changed laws to the point that the time of my death will be in question with God's timing and more to suit your 'pro-life' statism


35 posted on 05/24/2005 1:41:02 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears

"You know beyond a shadow of a doubt that this was not God's way to allow Terri to go to Heaven?"

God has mysterious ways, I know, but I find it hard to understand why a merciful God would countenace a still-young (41 yo) womand WHO WAS NOT TERMINALLY ILL to be starved and dehydrated to death. A cruel way to go. BTW caps do not mean I am yelling; think of it as italics. Thanks.


36 posted on 05/24/2005 1:43:58 PM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: Pepper777

I was uneasy about Connor's quote as well. I don't know whether we can get a direct answer from anyone though. I wonder if it could be because the courts have refused to rule against one another that no matter what bill was put forth the judges would nix it.

I don't really know for sure how I feel about the fact there were emails going back and forth. I think it could be viewed either way.

I feel like the press conference that was held with DCF when they were going to take Terri into protective custody was for show. They showed their hand and it cost.


37 posted on 05/24/2005 1:48:37 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: 68 grunt

"typified by not having done profile pages"

Just took care of that detail. It's not much, but it's something.


38 posted on 05/24/2005 1:49:17 PM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: sawdust
Love the name-calling. You have NO idea how old I am, do you

Based on your emotional state and lack of argument, let me guess. 10? 15? 18 tops? Final answer.

Here's TWO valid arguments, son:
1. To save someone from being starved to death.
2. To overthrow judicial tyranny.

As I expected. You have stated what you want the law to be and not what it is. Neither of the positions you have provided have decent precedents to show that a state government can send out troops to override court decisions. What is disturbing is that you are willing to give any executive the power to override whole government systems to enforce his will. You do realize the intent of the Framers was to establish republican forms of government in the separate and sovereign states don't you? What you and others are advocating is the executive's supposed right to override any decision he disagrees with. A limited monarchy!! Absolutely smashing.

I will hand it to you though. At least you haven't tried, yet, to run and hide under the skirts of the US Constitution as it never applied in this case.

39 posted on 05/24/2005 1:50:08 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: sawdust
but I find it hard to understand why a merciful God would countenace a still-young (41 yo) womand WHO WAS NOT TERMINALLY ILL to be starved and dehydrated to death.

Well rational thought. I take back what I said. I don't understand it either. But I don't want any executive to have the power some here are desiring he would have

40 posted on 05/24/2005 1:51:54 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: sawdust

I wonder if we have enough men who do have the spine to do the right thing to make a difference. The way it is now, anything that comes up to change King's legacy will not pass, he'll get his little posse together. Real conservatives must run for office so we don't have to choose between RINO or Dem, there really isn't much difference though.


41 posted on 05/24/2005 1:52:05 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: sawdust
"Newbie" is a name, just like "pinhead." Understand "pinhead", or did Charlie drop a coconut on your head back in '68 or something."

sawdust aka Walkure, manta_ray, sagebrush58, seabass58, buzznut, sandbass, shellcracker, bluegill, topminnow, searobin, pickerel, searobin, bumblebee58, killaB, cornflake2004, turnip58, Stop_Neocons, et al, zotted again.

42 posted on 05/24/2005 1:54:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: sawdust
... Jeb Bush is a gutless wonder who was just posturing--"sellin' wolf tickets" as the kids say. He had the power to use the FL National Guard and FL State Police to rescue Terri from the Barney Fife Pinellas Park cops but was either too cowardly to do so or didn't really believe in his heart that Terri Schiavo was worth saving. This is what happens when you elect silver-spoon rich kids to high office; they don't have the guts to put up a fight.

Wow man, I wish I didn't say I'd reply. Oh well, here goes; JB followed the law. We may not think the finding of the court correct, but it was adjudicated until the cows came home. JB had an obligation to follow the law. Perhaps he could have shown more guts, but if he would have the guts he would have been showing would be slopping all over the ground, because he would have been torn apart. You also spook pejoratively about 'silver-spoon rich kids' not having the guts to fight. This is a negative stereotype and quite untrue. Our history is replete with the sons and daughters of privilege who have paid the highest price, and your slam bags directly against the Bush family. Your compliment the PP cops also resembled a rant. These dudes were just doing their jobs.

Recapping; First sentence: Jeb Bush is a gutless wonder who was just posturing - "sellin' wolf tickets" as the kids say.Whats to deconstruct, this is your opinion. Second sentence; He had the power to use the FL National Guard and FL State Police to rescue Terri from the Barney Fife Pinellas Park cops but was either too cowardly to do so or didn't really believe in his heart that Terri Schiavo was worth saving. He had the power to misuse. He had the responsibility to follow the law. Third sentence; This is what happens when you elect silver-spoon rich kids to high office; they don't have the guts to put up a fight.Whats to deconstruct? This is again, your opinion.

Words like 'gutless wonder', and 'Barney Fife Pinellas Park cops' and 'cowardly' and 'guts' and 'Terry worth saving' scream out feelings. Feelings, emotions, same thing. I find your post #7 to be a fine example of an emotional post.

43 posted on 05/24/2005 2:00:13 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wow! Double wow!


44 posted on 05/24/2005 2:01:51 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
OK....you don't have a problem with the list.

Your post #9

Some idiots hold Jeb reponsible, and claim to hold the repub's feet to the fire for it. What misplaced idiocy.

Do you want to elaborate? I'm reading the post and,blonde as I may be at times,thinking that it is your opinion that anyone who would hold Repubs responsible as idiots.

45 posted on 05/24/2005 2:02:58 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: sawdust

While I'm not sure at this point that I would agree with Grunt on everything I do think that your comment about Charlie dropping a coconut on his head is completely uncalled for. He served his country and does deserve the respect that the sacrifice has earned him.

From the wife of a retired Marine!


46 posted on 05/24/2005 2:05:53 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: sawdust; 68 grunt

I must say that maybe we can't always judge by the length of time someone has been "on the board". I lurked for over a year before I ever signed up.


47 posted on 05/24/2005 2:07:34 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: Jim Robinson

Even if the poster in question was a multiple retread, it doesn't make the posters on this thread who were arguing with him any better. They spend most of their time on these threads trolling, and one in particular has a tough time posting at all without smacking around conservatives.


48 posted on 05/24/2005 2:09:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We, the people, are the...masters of...the courts..." -Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Pepper777

Well I'm still waiting for a letter in my mailbox.

Sigh...

I hate calling his office, I really do! If you are calling with a contrary opinion about anything, you are in for it!

This is my rundown of 4/28/05

I called King's office to ask who is included in his "others like Terri" group.

That gal in his office is a piece of work to say the least.
She first said she assumed that it was people who are braindead and left no wishes. Then when I said I wanted to know for sure she said she was sure that's who it was. She wanted to know the link for the article I quoted from cause she didn't recall that and they've printed almost all the articles from the past 2 months.

I said it was disputed that Terri was brain dead, then she went to the court has ruled...like a Felos repeat imo. I said the court also "never" ruled on motion to remove Michael as guardian because of conflict of interest and under 38.10 a judge should recuse himself if asked. She said that's up to the judges discretion whether to stay on a case and she said the conflict of interest on guardians isn't in the statutes.

I told her I want to hear exactly who he includes in that group of folks like Terri and told her I have elderly friends nervous they could have their feeding removed because their medicaid costs got too high. She said oh really the Jacksonville Council of Elder Affairs was just there and they support Sen King on that issue and on medicaid reform. ARGH!


So now I have to chase down the Elder Affairs office here to verify that info.

Want your nerves plucked? Just call King's office sometime, that will do the job.
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I spoke with a gentlemen in the Jax Elder Affairs and asked about whether they supported King's vote on Terri and Medicaid reform. He knew nothing of it and said to his knowledge they haven't received any request for support of a candidate or an issue. He said maybe the Elder Affairs on the state level have made such statements but he did not know if they had. The boss is in Tally today and he told me I could call back tomorrow. I told him about King's quote about "people like Terri" and how King's statements end up all around Florida and 'not' in his district. He asked me to email it to their office so he can let his boss know. I told him my older friend at church is concerned whether older folks are included in King's group of others like Terri.


49 posted on 05/24/2005 2:11:42 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: tutstar
Awww, come on, didn't I elaborate enough with the other fella?

I'll try a different tack. I want conservatives to win elections. Not rinos, not liberals, and not extremists. In my opinion, extremists scare the middleground. The middleground are not moderates, they are the middle and they are all over the place within the middle. If the middleground can vote with us, we can win. If we can win, we can affect change. If we can affect change we can restore the courts to a constitutional direction.

Elaborate? Hold these people's feet to the fire, they are local politicos and need to be held accountable. But to use this emotional issue to tar all republicans, Jeb, and the national republicans, is just wrong, and counterproductive to our desire to win elections and to affect change. Did I do any better that time?

50 posted on 05/24/2005 2:13:14 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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