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Filibuster deal: Freepers, please "hold your powder"
n/a | 05/24/05 | jdsteel

Posted on 05/24/2005 5:44:11 AM PDT by jdsteel

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To: Lazamataz

I congratulate you on not being put to sleep by the less than honest rhetoric of those present at the press conference on the "compromise" yesterday. I re-registered some months ago, and all the activity since has only proven that I made the right decision. After more than 40 years as a Republican, I am now no longer. We need a true conservative leader ... of which I see none.


81 posted on 05/24/2005 6:09:16 AM PDT by Phant2000
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To: Lazamataz
They won't be coming back.

They'll be back, but I agree that will depend entirely on the actual outcome of this fiasco.

I'd like to see each and every one of these snakes punished immediately and later at the polls. But meantime, we have work to do, and like it or not, we need these SOBs.

82 posted on 05/24/2005 6:09:37 AM PDT by John Valentine (Whoop dee doo)
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To: jdsteel

Sorry, but Ace Mccain has shot down another plane - the RNC plane. All are dead to me.


83 posted on 05/24/2005 6:09:54 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: ZULU
EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES = Any canditade that will not support perverts, abortion, world government, unbridled spending and illegal aliens without qualification!

(all or none!)

84 posted on 05/24/2005 6:09:59 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: ZULU

I think the EXTREME meaning is for the moderates to decide. Like Pryor and Nelson. This was also a loss for the democrat liberals like Leahy, Shummer, and Kennedy.


85 posted on 05/24/2005 6:10:05 AM PDT by JRochelle
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To: jdsteel

There comes a time when even the driest powder is useless.


86 posted on 05/24/2005 6:10:37 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: John Valentine
But meantime, we have work to do, and like it or not, we need these SOBs.

You do it. I'm plum wore out.

87 posted on 05/24/2005 6:10:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Republican no more.)
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To: Galtoid

Names, please. I want names...


88 posted on 05/24/2005 6:11:08 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: xcamel
Well, somebody voted for them! All 100 of them are nut-less squirrels!
89 posted on 05/24/2005 6:11:37 AM PDT by old school
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To: jdsteel
I agree 100%, let's face it anytime we get Judges that NARAL and MoveOn has spent the last three years screaming about life is good.

Plus, I would love to see Janice R Brown nominated to the Supreme Court, and there is no way in H*** that the Dems could filibuster her again.

90 posted on 05/24/2005 6:13:03 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: b4its2late
Should the McCain scenario you paint come to pass, McCain will take as many Democrats as he will Republicans.

If things keep going the way they are, there is a really good possibility there will be a third party option, which will result in a Democrat victory, thereby hastening the second "Civil War".

91 posted on 05/24/2005 6:13:12 AM PDT by G.Mason ( It's people like you, that make people like me, people like you!)
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To: gridlock
This whole fight was about making it possible for the President to nominate and the Senate to confirm a principled conservative to the Supreme Court. Now that is impossible.

Why is that?

92 posted on 05/24/2005 6:13:31 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: knuthom

They would have to admit they were fools to agree to the deal in the first place.

Yep. And we all know the ego of the average RINO will keep them from nuking the donks because nuking the donks would be an admission to stupidity. The RINOS must go. We must vote them out.

93 posted on 05/24/2005 6:13:32 AM PDT by Truth Table
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To: jocon307
Does anyone really believe that given the same situation (Republican minority holding up Democrat president nominees with a filibuster) the Democrats won't wait 2 seconds to change the rules???

Another loss for those of us who worked hard to get Republican majorities in Congress. This Republican will probably give up completely on the political process - it doesn't work for the ordinary citizen.

94 posted on 05/24/2005 6:13:40 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: jdsteel

"Getting the up or down vote is the target in this issue. We get that, and still have the constitutional option in our holster, I'm satisfied."

You are fooling yourself. The only way a Bush SCOTUS nominee will see a vote is if he/she is a moderate who supports abortion.

I can't believe ya'll are falling for this.


95 posted on 05/24/2005 6:13:44 AM PDT by Bryan24
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Most of the disappointment with the GOP is due to the fact that the GOP incorrectly cast itself as holding the trigger for the Constitutional Nuclear Byrd Option. It did not hold that trigger, and does not hold that trigger now.

Lots of people fell for the false assertion, "Frist has the nuclear trigger, and he's gonna USE IT!" Well, he'll use it if he has to, but he CAN'T use it if the Senate is voting on the nominees, just as it is supposed to do.

The DEM tactic of refusing to vote is parliamentary and Constitutional misbehavior. It is misbehavior that needs to be corrected. But the misbehavior has to be there in order to correct it.

We don't correct our children when they are behaving. We correct them when they are misbehaving.

96 posted on 05/24/2005 6:13:53 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Josh in PA

"So we're going to get Saad and Myers?"
I think we will. There was nothing in the agreement to dismiss them. Reid was saying they will not be confirmed but its not up to him. Its up to people like Pryor and Nelson. Them saying that Saad and Myers won't get a vote is spin. Its up to the justice comittee whether to send them to the floor for a vote.




97 posted on 05/24/2005 6:13:55 AM PDT by JRochelle
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To: mathluv

I don't know if the "moderates" have thought this far ahead or not, but if the three judges who will get a vote are ultimately confirmed, it seems that the "extraordinary circumstances" threshold (imaginary as it may be with the dems) has just been substantially heightened. If these 3 judges were so bad as to cause a filibuster, but now do not create "extraordinary circumstances" it is hard to see how any of the others would do so. If any of them are filibustered, the constitutional option, it seems to me, is back on the table.

All that being said, I would have prefered to proceed with the constitutional option, but apparently some on (or near) the right have gone soft.


98 posted on 05/24/2005 6:14:11 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: jdsteel
"betrayed and outraged moderates" leading the way

BWAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA
99 posted on 05/24/2005 6:14:38 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: verity
Will you be writing an opus?

Nah, just standing out of the way while you and millions of others continue to get pi**ed on.
Enjoy the shower.

100 posted on 05/24/2005 6:14:44 AM PDT by jla
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