Posted on 05/25/2005 6:27:04 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor
We know because the similarities are too great not to get them, and I believe he must have made some references (although this is not my area of expertise). He also did a reworking of Goya's Three Majas. He was very upset because few of the Parisians in 1863 "got" his references and were just upset at the blatant nudity.
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Thanks. I enjoyed the art lesson.
Nice pick. By far the most interesting figure in the series that Rep.Prof. posted was the black woman in the Manet.
I wanted to reply earlier, but I haven't been by the computer for long enough until now.
Hopper is awesome. There is always an intense loneliness and what we see as nostalgia in his works. And yet the daylight often mitigates this loneliness. This Nighthawks is different, more bleak somehow without the daylight.
Isn't teaching rewarding in this way? I make them go to a museum for a final paper, and they all appreciate how much they've learned through the semester.
Flat means without modeling, which is a fancy word for shading. So instead of making figures round, as did Titian and Giorgione, they are stressing a 2-dm flatness, like a plane in geometry.
This flatness, and a new kind of space through warm and cool colors and the tension and movement thereof, is what concerns much of modern art. More about this in upcoming "lectures."
The Impressionists outdoor colors were new, and new in tubes, so they could go outside. Manet's works, in 1863, feel very much like studio works. There is no sense of real light on the Dejeuner lady. The dappled sense of light will develop by 1874 in the work of Monet, Renoir and others.
So, I agree with you. Manet doesn't feel "real" to me. But, as you said later, real is what the artists say it is.
The ladies in the background of Titians Urbino are not praying or vomiting (as another post said). They are finding something for the (nude) "mistress" to wear in the trunk.
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I love that painting. The waves are not realistic, and the catboat is distorted, yet somehow the whole thing captures that feeling of well being combined with awe and fragility that you can get on the ocean at times.
Going to have to get a print of it for myself.
This is a fine thread you have underway...if things keep going like this, Freerepublic is going to surpass Wetcanvas.com as an art discussion site. That would be weird, but healthy. I think!
This particular thread already surpasses most of theirs.
I also like the way the “stories” of his paintings are open-ended. Will her husband return from the sea? Will the fisherman make it back to his boat? When I spent an afternoon with this work, it felt like I could truly understand what was going through the minds of these two girls. Then I wanted to know what life would hold for them five or ten years later. It's not just art to look at from an objective distance but it brings you in and makes you wonder.
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Love it!! Printing out for bedside reading. Thanks.
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Goya's Maja desnuda is far more effective, IMHO, but I have always liked Goya better than ANY of the French impressionists (except maybe Renoir). Besides, she looks like she is a girl who enjoys a good time and has a twinkle in her eye . . . unlike Olympia who as somebody said just seems to be saying "Next!"
Thank you for the art appreciation class RProfessor. The Homer works are beautiful. My tastes have mostly tended toward American and Indian southwestern art paintings,pottery and sculpture. I'm also looking forward to your discussion of modern architecture. Please include me on your ping list. :o)
While in Las Vegas a few years ago, I visited Steve Wynn’s art collection, being shown at the Bellagio Hotel.
I was struck by how very, very good every piece he displayed was. Even his “modern” art was excellent.
It was somewhat of a sad irony though, as Steve Wynn has this beautiful art collection and he is losing his eyesight.
The piece that really struck me was Rembrandt’s Portrait of a Gentleman in a Red Doublet.
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The online picture doesn’t even come close to showing how good this work is. I looked at it and obviously knew it was a painting, yet the skin appears to have the same semi translucent quality of real skin, it was truly remarkable.
As I looked at it, I thought, this is why the very best artists still try to compare themselves to Rembrandt van Rijn.
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