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Prosecutors attack David Rosen's credibility (Hillary Clinton campaign finance trial)
KESQ ^ | 5/25/05

Posted on 05/25/2005 2:16:39 PM PDT by Libloather

Prosecutors attack David Rosen's credibility

LOS ANGELES Hillary Rodham Clinton's former national finance adviser says he may have used bad judgment when he failed to report allowing a donor to pay a ten-thousand-dollar Beverly Hills hotel bill and loan him use of a Porsche.

But David Rosen says he never tried to hide anything.

Rosen said on the stand this morning that he thought use of Aaron Tonken's Porsche while he was in Los Angeles to help organize a lavish 2000 gala with Hollywood stars was a personal gift.

Rosen said, "I didn't think there was any campaign expense....if I executed poor judgment in that decision, I made a mistake but I certainly didn't intend to hide anything."

Use of the Porsche and hotel expenses were paid by Tonken, who was one of the organizers of the fund-raiser.

The federal prosecutor then asked Rosen whether it had occurred to him that someone giving a ten-thousand dollar gift would want something from him.

Rosen replied: "No."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: attack; campaign; campaigncash; clinton; clintonlegacy; clintonscandals; credibility; david; davidrosen; finance; hillary; hillaryscandals; hitlary; hrc; perjury; prosecutors; rosen; tonken; trial; worstlady; x42
Clinton fundraiser says he never had event costs altered
By Laura Wides
ASSOCIATED PRESS
4:39 a.m. May 25, 2005

LOS ANGELES – A former fund-raiser for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton denied telling anyone to hide $700,000 in costs for a lavish Hollywood party and portrayed himself as the victim of others.

"The costs were concealed from me" by the people who put on the event, David Rosen testified Tuesday at his federal court trial.

"I am 100 percent innocent," Rosen said.

Testimony in the three-week-old trial was expected to conclude Wednesday.

Rosen, 38, had pleaded not guilty to three counts of making false statements to the Federal Election Commission, which oversees campaign contributions. Earlier Tuesday, however, U.S. District Judge A. Howard Matz threw out one of those charges for lack of evidence.

Each remaining count carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Prosecutors have said Hillary Clinton was unaware of any wrongdoing.

Rosen was national finance director for Clinton's New York Senate campaign. Prosecutors contend that Rosen arranged to underreport the cost of an August 2000 dinner and concert that raised $1 million. The event, held at a 112-acre Brentwood estate, attracted celebrities including Cher, Diana Ross and Muhammad Ali.

Rosen testified that he was focused on speaking with potential donors rather than planning the event.

"Most of what I did was raise money," he said.

Rosen said he relied on an outside group run by Peter Paul and Aaron Tonken that was organizing the event to calculate and document the costs. The figures were then reported to the federal government as part of campaign finance statements, he said.

Paul, a three-time convicted felon, pleaded guilty in March to unrelated securities fraud charges. Tonken is serving a 63-month prison sentence for unrelated charges of defrauding charities of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Rosen's case is unusual not only because of the celebrity wattage of the event and political power of its beneficiary but also for the fact that it went to trial at all: most FEC allegations are settled out of court.

Assistant U.S Attorney Peter Zeidenberg has told jurors it was Rosen's job to both raise money for Clinton's campaign and track how much was spent. He told jurors Rosen deliberately lied to regulators by claiming "in-kind" contributions of $401,000 for the Hollywood fund-raiser when he knew their value exceeded $1.1 million.

Prosecutors have said Rosen was trying to duck federal financing rules so the campaign would have more money to spend on the Senate race.

During Rosen's cross-examination Zeidenberg suggested that at a time when Clinton was under scrutiny in the press for receiving so-called "soft-money" contributions, it would not have looked good to report the high in-kind donations that went into producing the event.

In other testimony Tuesday, TV producer Gary Smith said the cost of producing entertainment for the fund-raiser was nearly $600,000, but he said he never discussed that amount with Rosen.

1 posted on 05/25/2005 2:16:40 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: doug from upland; Carl/NewsMax; Liz; Howlin; Nick Danger

Rosen takes the stand as the victim bump...


2 posted on 05/25/2005 2:17:30 PM PDT by Libloather (If it wernt for spellcheck, I'd have no check at all. Gloom, despair, and agony on me...)
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To: Libloather

I am 100 percent innocent," Rosen said.
Decimal point is in the wrong place.


3 posted on 05/25/2005 2:20:16 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: handy old one

LMAO, Rosen sure is making me laugh.
Hey can i Borrow the 100,000 Ferarri for the weekend, and you pay for my hotel while i organize some fundraisers? /Sarc


4 posted on 05/25/2005 2:22:37 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

Watching people trying to not act as stupid as the whole world know now them to be priceless!


5 posted on 05/25/2005 2:25:28 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: Libloather
Prosecutors have said Hillary Clinton was unaware of any wrongdoing.

I thought prosecutors indicated that they would not be presenting any evidence that Hillary was guilty of wrongdoing - big difference.

6 posted on 05/25/2005 2:26:18 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Ben Hecks

The whole World protecting 'Her Thighness', the Victim's victum!


7 posted on 05/25/2005 2:38:06 PM PDT by SPOTTEDOWL (Never let the liberals pull you down to their level)
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To: SPOTTEDOWL

it's ye olde "I don't know nothing about nothing"

judge, I'm just a stupid hick, aw shucks, just call me Forrest Gump Rosen, stupid is as stupid does......really I'm surprised a smart lady like Mrs. Clinton even hired a bumpkin like me.........LOL


8 posted on 05/25/2005 2:50:46 PM PDT by littlelilac
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To: Libloather

Nothing to see here; he has the luxury of a California jury, and will walk.


9 posted on 05/25/2005 2:51:46 PM PDT by thelastvirgil (Help stamp out incumbent politicians: Public enemy number one.)
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To: Libloather
Looks like Rosen is going to rollover for Hitlery.

"Prosecutors have said Hillary Clinton was unaware of any wrongdoing."

Why don't the subpoena Peter Paul? hehehe
10 posted on 05/25/2005 3:00:05 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Libloather

For INFO:


"Rosen, 38, had pleaded not guilty to three counts"


I hate how the media writes this - as if Rosen is saying he's not guilty. Why can't the media explain that when a person is charged with a crime .. they are required to enter a PLEA - the plea is "guilty" - NO TRIAL .. however if the plea is "not guilty - THEY GET A TRIAL BY JURY. So even the worst criminal can enter a plea of "not guilty" and take their chances with a jury trial instead of having a judge impose a sentence.

The "PLEA" has nothing whatsoever to do with the guilt or innocense of the person being charged. I wish the media would clarify this because the way they explain it is so deceptive.


11 posted on 05/25/2005 3:15:10 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Libloather

The Clinton News Network continues to black out coverage.
Hillary Clinton simply can raise too much money for a Presidential bid. The media is waiting to sell lots of campaign ads with all the Clinton money raised from campaign contributions.


12 posted on 05/25/2005 3:17:34 PM PDT by Revererdrv (e)
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To: SPOTTEDOWL

The media knows Hillary will raise money for both Democrats and Republicans. The media knows they will get lots of that money in return for political advertisements.


13 posted on 05/25/2005 3:19:35 PM PDT by Revererdrv (e)
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To: CyberAnt

Hillary has lots of experience: Travelgate, Whitewatergate,
Missing File Gate, Fostergate, Monicagate etc. She probably has this gate locked too!


14 posted on 05/25/2005 3:21:27 PM PDT by Revererdrv (e)
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To: Libloather
From the article: "In other testimony Tuesday, TV producer Gary Smith said the cost of producing entertainment for the fund-raiser was nearly $600,000, but he said he never discussed that amount with Rosen."

I just can't remember the last time I spent $600,000 on behalf of someone else and failed to account for it. What a convenient arrangement. Conveniently criminal.

15 posted on 05/25/2005 3:57:37 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Fruit of the Spirit
"Looks like Rosen is going to rollover for Hitlery."

With the Clintons you have 2 choices: 1) rollover; 2)or be dead.

16 posted on 05/25/2005 4:00:01 PM PDT by penowa
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To: penowa
With the Clintons you have 2 choices: 1) rollover; 2)or be dead.

You have that right! Have you seen The Clinton Body Count?
17 posted on 05/25/2005 4:24:22 PM PDT by Pirate21 (Bush-Cheney-Rice-Rumsfeld -- the awesome foursome)
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To: doug from upland; Alamo-Girl; Mia T; Revererdrv; CHARLITE; wagglebee; JohnHuang2; Nick Danger; ...
"Hillary has lots of experience: Travelgate, Whitewatergate,Missing File Gate, Fostergate, Monicagate..."

Ahhh - you left out one - you left out the most disasterous one, ie. Chinagate - - - Hill and Bill inviting all those Communist Chinese agents into the White House: Charlie Trie, John Huang and Johnny Chung and of course the Kingpins of Chinagate, Hill & Bill's treasonous pals - Mochtar Riady & his son James Riady! And because of Hillary & Bill Clinton, all, with emphasis on all - - All of our nuclear secrets went to Communist China

Now hmmm, what did that full page FreeRepublic.com ad in the Washinton Times entail back in 1999? Hmmmm....seems it listed many of the treasonous crimes of the Clinton's and the DNC.

And where did the facts in that full page ad come from? Oh yes - the top right hand cornor of our U S Congressional Record for the date of: June 23rd, 1999 - U S Senator James Inhofe: "The Clinton National Security Scandal and Coverup"

18 posted on 05/25/2005 5:28:24 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: Libloather
Earlier Tuesday, however, U.S. District Judge A. Howard Matz threw out one of those charges for lack of evidence.

Folks, don't overlook this seemingly minor detail. What the judge ruled specifically was that there is no evidence tying Mr. Rosen to the third and final report. Note in particular that the judge did not rule that the government had failed to prove that the third report was fraudulent...

Put another way, this judge just ruled that when it came to the final report, "it was fraudulent, but somebody else did that one."

So this leaves the government in the position of having proved that a crime was commmitted, but they have not yet charged the correct perp.

If Rosen did not direct the filing of the third and final fraudulent report on July 30, 2001, who did?


19 posted on 05/25/2005 6:08:03 PM PDT by Nick Danger (www.iranfree.org)
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To: StellarOne

Thanks for the ping.


20 posted on 05/25/2005 8:15:15 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Libloather

I was there today. Rosen lied his *** off.


21 posted on 05/25/2005 9:04:10 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: StellarOne

Thanks for the ping!


22 posted on 05/25/2005 9:09:16 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: doug from upland; Liz; Howlin
I was there today. Rosen lied his *** off.

How did he appear? Does he have those Lanny Davis/Allen Colmes type weasel eyes?

23 posted on 05/25/2005 9:09:49 PM PDT by Libloather (If it wernt for spellcheck, I'd have no check at all. Gloom, despair, and agony on me...)
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To: Libloather

He almost appeared arrogant on the stand. When sitting next to his counsel, however, he was nervously rubbing his fingers and hands. He knows he is in trouble.


24 posted on 05/25/2005 9:12:07 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: William Tell

If he didn't discuss THAT amount, what amount DID he discuss ?


25 posted on 05/25/2005 9:28:22 PM PDT by stylin19a ( Social Security...neither social nor secure.)
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To: penowa

"With the Clintons you have 2 choices: 1) rollover; 2)or be dead."

That's true enough! I wonder if anyone knows who their "hit man" is?

I've come to the conclusion that if you're not "somebody" the government doesn't care whether you're murdered or not. They put a price tag on everything, including murder, etc. If you've got enough money to pay some fancy pants attorney, you can get away with murder. Makes me wonder if Sosa's money isn't responsible for some of the mysterious deaths.


26 posted on 05/25/2005 10:27:43 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Mia T

What a bunch of mobsters. The topless bar owner. The line of sleazy fund raisers. This was, by no means, the first. The cattle futures. The pardon-sold-to-crack-dealer. The pardon of FALN bomb terrorists for votes. The guvenatorial pardon of cocain dealer, Dan Lassiter. The prison blood scandal. The strange Waco killings of Clinton bodyguards. The rackateering investigation of Hugh Rodham. The stolen White House furniture. Nuclear treason for Chinese contributions. Vince Foster followed by Jerry Parks. The Brown Crash. The Travel Office scandal. And I'm just getting started!


27 posted on 05/26/2005 6:39:13 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: doug from upland

bttt


28 posted on 05/26/2005 6:31:51 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: Victoria Delsoul; doug from upland; bitt; It'salmosttolate; SeaBiscuit; ladyinred; ALOHA RONNIE; ...
Am wondering if Hillary and her minions - as they monitor this and other of 'her' threads here, ya think they cringed a bit when they read the above chinagate reminder post??
29 posted on 05/26/2005 7:08:10 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: CyberAnt

bttt


30 posted on 05/26/2005 7:08:56 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: Libloather; Sean Hannity

Good post Libloather. Btw, you were here back in '99 -do you remember that full page chinagate ad in the Washington Times? Do you know how I can find a few of the threads pertaining to that ad as I'd like to review them/ bring them to the top for all to see since Hillary is in the limelight again. Thanks.


31 posted on 05/26/2005 7:17:04 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: backhoe

bttt


32 posted on 05/26/2005 7:22:11 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: StellarOne
ya think they cringed a bit when they read the above chinagate reminder post??

I doubt it, since they are used to this. Shameful behavior if you ask me.

33 posted on 05/26/2005 7:23:36 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: StellarOne

Here's one version (excerpt):

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/02-15-99/irresponsible.htm

An Irresponsible Congress
by William F. Jasper

On May 13, 1998 Representative Curt Weldon (R-PA) rose in the House of Representatives to address the matter of our national security and the Clinton Administration’s transfer of missile technology to China: "Tonight, unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, I rise to talk about both of those issues, our national security and a scandal that is currently unfolding that I think will dwarf every scandal that we have seen talked about on this floor in the past six years. Mr. Speaker, this scandal involves potential treason, and if in fact the facts are true as they have been outlined in media reports, which we are currently trying to investigate, I think will require articles of impeachment."

Tough words. And they were echoed last August by House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-TX). "The more you look into this business of the transfer of advanced, sophisticated technology to the Chinese military, which seems to be clearly for campaign contributions," said Armey, "the harder it is to stay away from words like treason."

Other Republican leaders have weighed in with similarly ominous statements. Even Newt Gingrich sounded the alarm concerning presidential bribery and the compromise of our national security. "This has nothing to do with campaign finance," declared then-House Speaker Gingrich on May 19, 1998. "This has to do with national security. This is a profoundly deeper question than any other question that has arisen with this Administration."


34 posted on 05/26/2005 7:31:58 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Victoria Delsoul; Mia T; flamefront
True :(
Hillary and Bill think they've eluded justice on their chinagate treason, but the silver-lining is that -in the back of the minds of most Americans, they/we - are fully aware of all those communist chinese who were continually invited into the White House and blatantly donating to Bill's '96 campaign which led to all of our nuclear secrets going to the chinese. I'll see if I can locate that Inhofe treason speech thread that ran here month after month.
35 posted on 05/26/2005 7:32:18 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: Fruit of the Spirit

Thank you Spirit and let me review this. bttt


36 posted on 05/26/2005 7:33:15 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: Fruit of the Spirit; Victoria Delsoul; doug from upland; backhoe; ALOHA RONNIE; flamefront
"This has to do with national security. This is a profoundly deeper question than any other question that has arisen with this Administration."
37 posted on 05/26/2005 7:36:48 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: StellarOne

OK.


38 posted on 05/26/2005 7:40:00 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Fruit of the Spirit; StellarOne; All
 

 

I believe that this espionage case -- the Chinese -- is the worst in the history of this country. They got just about everything that we have and you'll see it in the out years in their development of their weapons.

HEAR Sen. Richard Shelby

China space shot has military implications

China launches first manned space flight
Reuters ^ | 10-14-03

Wed 15 October, 2003 02:07 BST

BEIJING (Reuters) - China has launched its first manned space flight from the Gobi desert, Xinhua news agency says, in its bid to become the third country to put a man in orbit after the former Soviet Union and the United States.

The Shenzhou V, or "Divine Ship V", was expected to orbit the Earth 14 times before returning after about 21 hours.

Xinhua said the craft carried astronaut Yang Liwei, 38. The launch on Wednesday, 42 years after the Soviet Union put the first man into space, marked a milestone for China's secretive space programme, which analysts say has its sights set on a manned mission to the moon.



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LEHRER: President Bush, your closing statement, sir.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Three weeks from now--two weeks from tomorrow, America goes to the polls and you're going to have to decide who you want to lead this country ...

On foreign affairs, some think it's irrelevant. I believe it's not. We're living in an interconnected world...And if a crisis comes up, ask who has the judgment and the experience and, yes, the character to make the right decision?

And, lastly, the other night on character Governor Clinton said it's not the character of the president but the character of the presidency. I couldn't disagree more. Horace Greeley said the only thing that endures is character. And I think it was Justice Black who talked about great nations, like great men, must keep their word.

And so the question is, who will safeguard this nation, who will safeguard our people and our children? I need your support, I ask for your support. And may God bless the United States of America.

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39 posted on 05/26/2005 11:00:55 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Libloather
Don't bother David, he's taking one for the team.

Paging Webb Hubbell.

40 posted on 05/26/2005 11:05:19 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Mia T; doug from upland; Libloather; Victoria Delsoul; backhoe; Mr. Bungle; katykelly; Texbob; ...
As has always been the case, we can count on MiaT to find and post the most pertinent and damning facts in regards to chinagate and both of the treasonous scumbag Clintons.
Thank you Mia.
41 posted on 05/27/2005 3:15:50 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: Deb; Libloather; doug from upland; LarryLied; ALOHA RONNIE; flamefront

...and we most not forget Ron Brown / Gracey Park - - (right Mrs Clinton??)


42 posted on 05/27/2005 3:19:44 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: StellarOne
"but the silver-lining is that -in the back of the minds of most Americans, they/we - are fully aware of all those communist chinese who were continually invited into the White House"

Sorry to bust your bubble, but 99.98% of the American people are NOT listening.

43 posted on 05/27/2005 4:22:58 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: Mia T

Awesome job, Mia!!!!


44 posted on 05/27/2005 8:52:19 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: AGreatPer

Actually, conservative talk radio has mentioned the Clinton's chinagate treason so much over the past four/ five years that that figure you have is a bit high. But, that's why it might be of interest for one of us to start running the Inhofe thread again (his June 23rd Senate Floor chinagate speech). I might do it myself, but it's a long speech to do and tend to. We'll see.


45 posted on 05/27/2005 10:47:56 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: Mia T

Just checked your homepage and there's a wealth of information there, wtg.


46 posted on 05/27/2005 10:49:05 PM PDT by StellarOne (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917940/posts)
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To: Mia T
Look Mia T, your good and you know it.

But you have ruined so many posts over the years. When I see your your name, I avoid it.

Don't get me wrong, I think you are great. But please keep your posts like this one. Most excellent.

47 posted on 05/27/2005 11:01:21 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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