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Viacom's Showtime Slanders Mother Teresa
NewsMax ^ | 5/25/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 05/25/2005 4:57:31 PM PDT by wagglebee

When shareholders of media conglomerate Viacom show up for their annual meeting tomorrow, they'll face the wrath of Catholic League President Dr. William Donahue over a shocking Showtime episode that slandered the late Mother Teresa and her order of nuns in the vilest of terms.

According to Donahue, who plans a press conference in front of the hotel in New York City where the Viacom meeting is being held, an episode of Showtime's Penn and Teller show "Holier Than Thou” was a "Nazi-like assault on Catholicism, and on the person the show calls "Mother F***ing Teresa.” Showtime is owned by Viacom.

Stormed Donahue, "In the 12 years that I have been president of the Catholic League, I have never witnessed a more vicious attack on Catholicism than what appeared this week on the Showtime program, ‘Penn and Teller.’ The episode, ‘Holier Than Thou,’ was a frontal assault on Mother Teresa and her order of nuns, Missionaries of Charity (as well as Gandhi and the Dali Lama).

"Like most Americans, I like parodies and have no problem, per se, with irreverent humor. But when humor becomes insult, that is a different story. And that is what happens here: comedy quickly morphs to vitriol. Indeed, as the show progresses, the level of anger becomes palpable and the degree of distortion becomes mindboggling. This is no comedy—it is Nazi propaganda right out of the Leni Riefenstahl school of filmmaking.

"The Mother Teresa that the world has come to love and revere is made to look like a cruel, exploitative, self-serving nun who ripped off the poor. We are told that Mother Teresa intentionally let the poor suffer, providing neither beds nor bathroom facilities. ‘She had the f***ing coin and pissed it away on nunneries,’ says Penn. As for the nuns who worked with Mother Teresa, they are referred to as ‘f***ing c***s.’

"It does not bother me when they call me ‘Catholic Boy’ on the show (though the term ‘Jew Boy’ would never cross their lips), nor does it concern me when they talk about ‘f**ers like Bill Donohue [who] only see good in her.’ But when they mock the Catholic Church’s teaching on the meaning of suffering, and when they say of the poor that ‘They had to suffer so that Mother F***ing Teresa could be enlightened,’ then they are behaving like monsters.

"We will mail a tape of select portions of this broadcast to many interested parties, including the bishops. And we will hold a press conference tomorrow outside the hotel where Viacom is holding its annual stockholders meeting. They haven’t heard the end of this yet.”

Donohue, who will be joined by some Catholic League staff members, said he will answer any questions following a few remarks. He promised that copies the Catholic League news release on this subject, "Mother F***ing Teresa—Courtesy of Viacom,” will be distributed to Viacom shareholders as they enter the hotel.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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To: xJones
And Diana's brother gave his self-righteous eulogy when he was treating his own wife far worse than Charles had ever treated Diana. Crazy....

Exactly. Remember how he promised to raise her sons? Where the heck was he when her youngest donned a Nazi uniform for a costume party? Or when the kid was smoking pot? Or... You get the idea.

The whole thing gave me immense sympathy for the republican movement in Britain. Aside from the Queen and the late Queen Mum, I would do away with the whole ridiculous German brood.

201 posted on 05/25/2005 8:29:23 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: GipperGal

I didn't know about Michael Douglas' comment. I bet that did seem weird!


202 posted on 05/25/2005 8:29:54 PM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: C2ShiningC

Ping!


203 posted on 05/25/2005 8:31:38 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: Petronski; LauraleeBraswell; Salvation; Coleus; NYer; SoothingDave; cyborg; onyx; fortunecookie

See my #197. If she did negotiate with any dictators, it was them who were swayed by her holiness, apparent even in her earlier years, and they were the better for it. She found the good in all around her, even the outwardly evil and her detractors. She may have started many convents, but they did not live the high life. Simple saris, donated buildings, often in deep disrepair. Check out their order. Read about Mother Teresa. She was able to see 'the Jesus in everyone'.


204 posted on 05/25/2005 8:34:00 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: LauraleeBraswell; fortunecookie

I would suggest if you don't want any more replies, to flag your own post to the moderator by hitting abuse and requesting your post be removed.


205 posted on 05/25/2005 8:39:42 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: fortunecookie; cyborg; LauraleeBraswell


LLB already suffers from low self esteem. Let's pray for her.


206 posted on 05/25/2005 8:45:20 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
You are a day late and a dollar short. Read the tagline.

But you know, as much as I loath what Hitch writes about Mother Theresa and Reagan too for that matter, when he's good, he's really good! Anyone here ever read his book "No One Left to Lie To?" Oh that was great! He could hammer Clinton better than anyone. And I really respect the way in which he broke ranks with his former colleagues at "The Nation." That took integrity.

207 posted on 05/25/2005 8:46:15 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: onyx

Christopher Hitchens suffers from low esteem. LB is just young and uninformed. No excuse for a bump on a log like Hitch to say the things he said.


208 posted on 05/25/2005 8:47:12 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Nothing wrong with occasionally perusing Hitchens.

I would not, however, assume that he was sober when writing whatever it is you are reading.

His fixation on Mother Theresa is frankly bizarre, to the point of suggesting some kind of relatively mild mental illness.

209 posted on 05/25/2005 8:47:16 PM PDT by B Knotts (Viva il Papa!)
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To: onyx; LauraleeBraswell
LLB already suffers from low self esteem. Let's pray for her.

Are you being serious here? If so, LLB, don't be ashamed. You handled yourself admirably. And you're obviously a bright gal.

210 posted on 05/25/2005 8:48:16 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: cyborg


Hitchens is a self described drunk and so far left that he's darn near a Communist.


211 posted on 05/25/2005 8:48:52 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

You know what? Leave her the hell alone, she has an opinion and doesn't need folks to judge her and offer prayers for her, just because (egads!) she has an opinion!


212 posted on 05/25/2005 8:49:44 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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To: B Knotts
I would not, however, assume that he was sober when writing whatever it is you are reading. His fixation on Mother Theresa is frankly bizarre, to the point of suggesting some kind of relatively mild mental illness.

Yeah, he does like to exercise the old elbow a little too much. It's an occupational hazard I'm afraid. You're right, his Mother Theresa thing is truly strange. I want to ask him, "were you beaten up as a child by an Albanian nun or something?"

213 posted on 05/25/2005 8:51:22 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: GipperGal


Yes, that's my opinion. I know she's young and brash at times.


214 posted on 05/25/2005 8:51:25 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser; fortunecookie; Petronski; wagglebee


Hey you. Read ALL of the posts. She pinged me herself, as did petronski and fortunecookie and wagglebee. I don't give a rip about her opinions, and I'll pray for anyone I wish, thank you very much.


215 posted on 05/25/2005 8:54:24 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

I think you just are angry, because folk like you were the target of the show?

Life is too short, people think what they want, don't waste prayers on anyone else, just do your own life.

BTW, the show was funny, I watched it, I doubt that more than a handfull of folk here watched it. I appreciated the digs they made at William Donahue, I think he is a joke, they also made fun of Hitchens.


216 posted on 05/25/2005 8:58:20 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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To: onyx; cyborg; LauraleeBraswell
LLB, really - read Malcolm Muggeridge's late 70's account of her. And some of the early 90's ones are also very telling and not commercialized. We should pray for each other. Good idea. Mother Teresa managed to see the good in all, the 'Jesus' in all people. She helped many, but also made a lot of 'stone soup' - got others to help and want to help and see the need for helping. I find it very telling that in the less than 7 years since her death, things have devolved very quickly - violence against Christians and the Sisters, charities running aground. Her influence was great in a country sometimes unstable and is sorely missed. It didn't benefit her, she wasn't living large on her fame, she remained unchanged - her 'fame' benefitted all Indians and citizens of India regardless of religion. Clearly missing now.
217 posted on 05/25/2005 9:03:33 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Central Scrutiniser


Folks like me are the target of a show I didn't watch, a show I had not heard about until I 'scanned' this article and you think I am angry? Preposterous! FOTFL.

CS, don't be so dang foolish.


218 posted on 05/25/2005 9:04:08 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

You are only a target if you allow yourself to be a target.

If you can't take critisism of your religion, then maybe you should shore up your beliefs.

I don't give a damn if someone hates Catholics, its their life, its their hate, I don't need it.

The show was pretty funny though...


219 posted on 05/25/2005 9:11:04 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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To: GipperGal

Chris" monthly liquor tab exceeds what she spent in food for a Year.


220 posted on 05/25/2005 9:13:00 PM PDT by RobbyS (W)
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To: B Knotts

He recognizes, at some level, the good in Mother Teresa that no amount of bad news coverage can hide and it scares and bothers him. He doesn't know how to deal with that and it stirs up feelings within him he doesn't want to deal with, it clearly hits a nerve. So he attacks. He should know better. I don't follow him that much. Did he launch such attacks on her while she was alive?


221 posted on 05/25/2005 9:13:25 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Adults should know the difference between humor and slander.


222 posted on 05/25/2005 9:16:09 PM PDT by RobbyS (W)
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To: Central Scrutiniser; onyx

There is a difference between opinions based on facts and opinoins based on untruths. She is basing her 'opinion' on untruths.


223 posted on 05/25/2005 9:16:11 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Central Scrutiniser


Catholic haters don;t bother me. I consider the source.


224 posted on 05/25/2005 9:19:18 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: fortunecookie; central scrutinizer

When our Church is slammed, it's almost always done by the totally smug or the wholly ignorant. I don't pay either much mind.

I have already spent much too much on this thread.


225 posted on 05/25/2005 9:21:22 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

And then there are those who so want to be accepted as "cool."that they refuse to protest bigotry,


226 posted on 05/25/2005 9:21:36 PM PDT by RobbyS (W)
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To: fortunecookie

The show is an opinion show, so the hosts give their opinons, if you don't like it, don't watch it.

But the show is damn funny, and its for adults, there is crude language and sometimes nudity, but they don't ever try to hide that. The show where they went to a fancy LA resturant, made up some fake names for bottled water and filled up the bottles all with water from the hose and sold them for outrageous prices was hilarious. They had people taste test all the water and give their opinions as to how brisk and how glacier like it all was. They did a great show on the scam called Feng Shui, they had 3 experts each do re-arrangements of the same house each charging several hundreds of dollars, every one of them did it differently. And they had a guy go to a $150 feng shui hairstylist and his twin go to a $7 barber, same haircut!

Its a funny show, they kill sacred cows, and when you do that, you piss people off.


227 posted on 05/25/2005 9:30:43 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
You are a day late and a dollar short. Read the tagline.

LOL, I was out earlier, I missed it... Reading him is one thing, but believing him is, well, you get it...

228 posted on 05/25/2005 9:31:44 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: RobbyS
And then there are those who so want to be accepted as "cool."that they refuse to protest bigotry,

How presumptous of you, I watched the show, laughed, and winced and was entertained, guess that makes me "Cool"

LOL

229 posted on 05/25/2005 9:37:08 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
The show is an opinion show, so the hosts give their opinons, if you don't like it, don't watch it.

I didn't watch it. I have seen bits of their act before and didn't care for them but I did laugh at a couple parts of the spot in spite of myself. For many comedians, there are usually a few topics that are just off limits, too distasteful to turn into one of their shows. But for P&T, that is their shtick. Still, I think that there are some who will be influenced by it as somehow truth based. They'll be wrong, but they'll persist in their error and try to persuade others of it. I know, free speech and opinion and all, I just hate to see someone like her trashed in such a despicable way under the guise of entertainment, but that is what comedians do, and I do laugh at other comedians. But that's my opinion.

230 posted on 05/25/2005 9:40:18 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: onyx

Well, as a Catholic, I learned early on that there are folks who don't care for the religion, in fact, I've seen some of the nuttier folk her go all crazy ripping on my religion.

So what? I have some problems with the religion, and I am not just gonna sit still and keep quiet, my grade school had 2 pedophile priests, and the principal of my high school was forced out of the priesthood for certain wrongdoing. I was, and am still vocal of some of the crap in my religion, and I can handle the crap slung at Catholics for our stand on evolution and other things. Critisism of my religion doesn't bother me, in fact, its a good thing, nothing in this world, NOTHING is above critisism.

And the show is damned funny, I enjoy it, guess I am going to hell?


231 posted on 05/25/2005 9:41:05 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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To: fortunecookie

So what? If a comic came out and did muslim jokes, you'd probably laugh! The show is damned funny, they attack all kinds of kooks and all kinds of beliefs and fads.

Its all about sacred cows, its funny until your sacred cow gets gored.


232 posted on 05/25/2005 9:42:53 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Of course you are, in a handbasket! :) FOTFL!


233 posted on 05/25/2005 9:44:58 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

True enough, depending on the joke. I watch comedy central. And my sacred cow is bleeding, and she is one of the better sacred cows, of international reknown and good character. ;-)


234 posted on 05/25/2005 9:45:30 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: jla

Perhaps Lauralee has no idea what a real miracle is.


235 posted on 05/25/2005 9:48:15 PM PDT by steve8714
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To: fortunecookie
"...I just hate to see someone like her trashed in such a despicable way under the guise of entertainment..."

Yep. Hiding behind the skirt of entertainment. Stuart Smalley's also a pro at this. It's very cowardly.

236 posted on 05/25/2005 9:50:29 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Do androids dream of electric sheep?)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
And did you mention that you think that the show is damned funny?

Man.

237 posted on 05/25/2005 9:51:53 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Do androids dream of electric sheep?)
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To: onyx
Of course you are, in a handbasket! :) FOTFL!

Be nice to me, and I'll sneak you in to the buffet in hell. Of course after attending Catholic school from k-12, I'm more worried about that whole "limbo" thing, its not hell, not heaven, not really anything, but I hope there is bar service. (Irish Catholic, most church events have an element of beer in them)

238 posted on 05/25/2005 9:53:23 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
I suppose that many blacks are sophisticated enough to laugh at a minstrel show, And if you have ever seen Eddie Cantor in black face, you know he meant no harm. But those film clips are not shown anymore. They are"t performed anymore because of their basis in animosity.
239 posted on 05/25/2005 9:54:24 PM PDT by RobbyS (W)
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To: Miss Behave

Yeah, its really funny, I want to see the episode where they take on PETA, and the one where they rip on funeral directors that sell you a $4000 box that you are going to rot in, just like if you were buried in a $100 cardboard box.


240 posted on 05/25/2005 9:55:07 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Limbo or purgatory? If you are under forty you may not have learned the difference in a Catholic school.


241 posted on 05/25/2005 10:00:05 PM PDT by RobbyS (W)
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To: RobbyS

We had old school nuns that did the limbo thing and the newer nuns that did the purgatory thing. You couldn't ask them any pressing questions about it, or you would be branded a pagan.


242 posted on 05/25/2005 10:02:38 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

You are a fool.


243 posted on 05/25/2005 10:04:16 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: Central Scrutiniser


Bar service, as in adult beverages? Oh yes, me too and I want Bingo games as well!

Now I am going to go watch the season finale' of L&O and count the number of pot shots that show will take at the GOP, Bush and maybe even the Church...lol.


244 posted on 05/25/2005 10:06:18 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

You would seem to fit in Limbo all right.


245 posted on 05/25/2005 10:13:50 PM PDT by RobbyS (W)
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To: RobbyS
And then there are those who so want to be accepted as "cool."that they refuse to protest bigotry.

And I have nothing but disdain for these types. They know better and yet them remain silent.

246 posted on 05/25/2005 10:14:18 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: Central Scrutiniser
The show where they went to a fancy LA resturant, made up some fake names for bottled water and filled up the bottles all with water from the hose and sold them for outrageous prices was hilarious. They had people taste test all the water and give their opinions as to how brisk and how glacier like it all was. They did a great show on the scam called Feng Shui, they had 3 experts each do re-arrangements of the same house each charging several hundreds of dollars, every one of them did it differently. And they had a guy go to a $150 feng shui hairstylist and his twin go to a $7 barber, same haircut!

ROTFLMAO!!!

Okay, maybe I will rent the DVDs...

But I still say slamming on Mother Theresa is in very poor taste. There is a limit (there must be a limit) to how crude or cruel the culture gets.

247 posted on 05/25/2005 10:17:38 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: RobbyS
You would seem to fit in Limbo all right.

Actually, I hope to be in the place full of people that don't spend their lives judging where other people will be in the afterlife.

248 posted on 05/25/2005 10:20:55 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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To: GipperGal

Hey, if there wasn't poor taste, how would we judge what is good taste!

BTW, great documentary on IFC, "In Bad Taste, the John Waters Story" funny stuff.


249 posted on 05/25/2005 10:22:41 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Miracles? Need she perform miracles to be a saint? Do you know what the heck you're talking about?


250 posted on 05/25/2005 10:22:56 PM PDT by baseballfanjm
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