Skip to comments.Viacom's Showtime Slanders Mother Teresa
Posted on 05/25/2005 4:57:31 PM PDT by wagglebee
When shareholders of media conglomerate Viacom show up for their annual meeting tomorrow, they'll face the wrath of Catholic League President Dr. William Donahue over a shocking Showtime episode that slandered the late Mother Teresa and her order of nuns in the vilest of terms.
According to Donahue, who plans a press conference in front of the hotel in New York City where the Viacom meeting is being held, an episode of Showtime's Penn and Teller show "Holier Than Thou was a "Nazi-like assault on Catholicism, and on the person the show calls "Mother F***ing Teresa. Showtime is owned by Viacom.
Stormed Donahue, "In the 12 years that I have been president of the Catholic League, I have never witnessed a more vicious attack on Catholicism than what appeared this week on the Showtime program, Penn and Teller. The episode, Holier Than Thou, was a frontal assault on Mother Teresa and her order of nuns, Missionaries of Charity (as well as Gandhi and the Dali Lama).
"Like most Americans, I like parodies and have no problem, per se, with irreverent humor. But when humor becomes insult, that is a different story. And that is what happens here: comedy quickly morphs to vitriol. Indeed, as the show progresses, the level of anger becomes palpable and the degree of distortion becomes mindboggling. This is no comedyit is Nazi propaganda right out of the Leni Riefenstahl school of filmmaking.
"The Mother Teresa that the world has come to love and revere is made to look like a cruel, exploitative, self-serving nun who ripped off the poor. We are told that Mother Teresa intentionally let the poor suffer, providing neither beds nor bathroom facilities. She had the f***ing coin and pissed it away on nunneries, says Penn. As for the nuns who worked with Mother Teresa, they are referred to as f***ing c***s.
"It does not bother me when they call me Catholic Boy on the show (though the term Jew Boy would never cross their lips), nor does it concern me when they talk about f**ers like Bill Donohue [who] only see good in her. But when they mock the Catholic Churchs teaching on the meaning of suffering, and when they say of the poor that They had to suffer so that Mother F***ing Teresa could be enlightened, then they are behaving like monsters.
"We will mail a tape of select portions of this broadcast to many interested parties, including the bishops. And we will hold a press conference tomorrow outside the hotel where Viacom is holding its annual stockholders meeting. They havent heard the end of this yet.
Donohue, who will be joined by some Catholic League staff members, said he will answer any questions following a few remarks. He promised that copies the Catholic League news release on this subject, "Mother F***ing TeresaCourtesy of Viacom, will be distributed to Viacom shareholders as they enter the hotel.
Oh no. I suppose you (incorrectly) think the Church is against evolution? You're wrong. You might want to read the Catechism before you profess to be Catholic. Just because a mouse is found in the cookie jar, that doesn't make him a cookie. Just saying, "I'm Catholic too" means zip to me. John Kerry professes to be Catholic. So does Uncle Fat Drunk -- oops, I mean Ted Kennedy.
Several people were directly lied to in the first season about how they would be portrayed on the show. There is no in depth verified analysis of ANY of the topics they cover.
Just merely cursory superficial debunking. (Such as theyre discounting that Second hand smoke could ever cause any health problems whatsoever and Penn directly discrediting the FDA for goodness sake.)
Bullsh@t show has no opposing views, its purely slanted Cr@ppola.
So, was the bingo fixed in your parrish? The nuns seemed to win the big pots a lot...
Actually, to be made a saint, you have to do two miracles after your death.
I was taught evolution when I did K-12 at Catholic school, glad I did, it was an enlightened stand of the church to reject the creationist nonsense.
It must be cool to be omnipotent and be able to tell whether people are athiests or not, but God hates that crap, its his game, so put down the attitude. As for folks being decived, they still go on the show after two full seasons, even Michael Medved went on and made an ass of himself, and I like and listen to Michael's show. As for their show its OPINION, they say what they want, much like Limbaugh et al. Don't like it? Don't watch it!
No, its only damn funny if someone damns you for watching it.
A former fan of theirs picked them apart if in this insightful review of Bullsh@t:
(to expose some of the techniques that Penn and Teller use, and I started looking for them in other episodes, even those episodes with which I wholeheartedly agreed (in other words, all of them).
found something pretty standard in all their arguments.
For their opponent, they usually find the absolute most extreme camp they can find, a camp that probably represents 10% of the other side of the argument, and they use that as the face of the enemy.
example, in their episode on eating and feeding the world, whom did they choose as the antagonist? Greenpeace and a group of hippie-freakshows who only eat raw foods.
Of course we're going to disagree with these idiots, therefore agreeing with Penn and Teller. We leave the show thinking that any and all genetically-altered foods should be dumped into the 3rd World, bar none.
What they don't show you are the extremely intelligent, forward thinking scientists who recognize the *legitimate* problems with this. Most notably, while genetic engineering may have saved a billion lives it has also done something else very obvious - drastically increased the population.
Therefore, deaths related to overpopulation not associated with starvation - like aids, leprosy, and other illnesses - have drastically increased, inverse to the decrease in deaths from starvation, even exceeding it in some areas. So in trying to do good, we could, in the end, be killing more people.
I'm not saying I totally agree with this point of view, just that it is a legitimate facet of the argument that isn't so easily dismissed with a wave of the hand like the ignorance of the losers that Penn and Teller put on camera.
So be aware as you watch, that there are almost always more viable arguments against their points that they are not showing you
*Groan* It's time for you to put your brain to bed for the night. The poor thing is running on fumes.
Guess what? Penn and Teller do an entertainment show based on their opinions, just like Limbaugh, and the Air America folks. And if you don't agree, you can listen to something else, or watch something else!
But I realize it, I know that the show is biased and is the opinion of the hosts, yet, I can watch it and realize that for myself. But the important thing is that I CAN watch it, I don't have to worry about a bunch of zealots that got their feelings hurt who want to ban it.
I watch shows, and I decide what is true and what is BS, its pretty cool that I can do that, doncha think?
And he thinks it's DAMN funny stuff too. Don't forget that part.
I left this thread for a while. Can you point me to the post calling for this show to be banned?
Sorry, not banned, just the usual screaming and knashing of teeth that some network dared to show something that they think is offensive.
The irony is that a majority of the folk that are in a lather about this are probably not Showtime subscribers!
Of course, you could probably download the show off one of the torrent sites out there.
Shoot this idea past you, how about St. Patricks Church & Grill. The slot machine in the corner doubles as a podium, the Texas Hold'Em table doubles as the altar.
LOL! Mine didn;t have Bingo, but in the next one over, the games were often won by the nuns...lol...but I think that was due to the number of nuns playing. :)
BTW, that damn show did take it gratuitous pot shot, this time at Tom DeLay.
I'm a Showtime subscriber, and I find the content of the programming to be offensive and motivated by hate. This morning, when they open their offices, my cable company will be getting my instruction to cancel the subscription.
Showtime is free to show whatever they want. I'm free to tell them to go pound sand, because I will not pay for the privilege of being insulted and ridiculed.
I note the irony of your lathered screaming and nashing of teeth that anyone dare be offended by a program you like.
Sounds OK to me, so long as the slot is video poker and I'm doing the bartending. You have NEVER had a GOOD cocktail until you've had one made by me.
One minute you're howling about the sanctity of free speech and the next minute you're complaining about our right to exercise our free speech by protesting this show. Are you thick or just a hypocrite?
Actually In Pittsburgh, a former Catholic Church has been turned in to a brew pub.
Cool, its your choice to do that!
That is what is great about TV, and pay tv in particular, you can do what you want in your own individual case.
And everyone else can do as they choose, as long as someone eles doesn't get holier than thou and try to speak for them.
I'm not screaming, just saying that I enjoyed the show, evidently that pisses off a lot of folk here. So what?
These guys jumped the shark a long time ago.
No, your only crime on this thread is offering incoherent and conflicting arguments. But it's been damn funny stuff and quite entertaining to watch you froth at the mouth defending the indefensible.
Yeah, we had an Irish pastor at my school/church, he always got us kids 6-8th graders to do work for him, he always promised to pay us too. But of course, he never did! He must have known I am Irish too (dual citizen) and wouldn't raise too much of a stink.
Later, in High School, I worked at an Eastern Orthodox parish, full of Poles and Czechs, always got paid there, free beer too!
You obviously get all hot and bothered if someone out there is enjoying themselves, are you sure you aren't Southern Baptist?
"I am a non religious conservative"
Those are your words from a thread on Tammy Bruce few months back.
On several Tsunami and Terri Schivao threads you openly mocked those who believed in a Christian God.
You attack anyone who doesn't bow down to evolution along with you.
Silly 'omnipotent' little ole me to infer you were an atheist.
I'm not pissed off at you for liking the show. Do as you wish.
I'm definitely pissed at Showtime and P&T. The entire lot of them have never done anything as important as the work done by Mother Theresa's order in one day. Teller sees something far greater than himself and finds himself startled by his smallness in the shadow of it. So of course all he can do is sneer and mock and try to destroy.
I think it's time for Bill Donohue to get more of my money.
Ahh cool! Of course, they're video slots. 3 Hail Mary's wins the jackpot. LOL!!
Can you imagine this pair of "Perfumed Princes" spending one day in the "institutions " of Calcutta. They would pee their pants and be crying for "momma" inside 15 minutes.
Well Im sure pedophiles and serial killers enjoy themselves doing their dirty work, but who are we to judge ?
No we'll just be like you Mr. cool calm and collected Pilotman.
Heaven fortend anyone judges anybody's else enjoyment of reprehensible diversions.
Wow!!! That looks really neat!
Onyx, I like you, there is a shared humor that only Catholics can really laugh at. Nuns that sat in on dances to make sure the boys and girls never touched, priests that warned of hell if we had late library books, really pissed off 65 year old virgin nuns that would beat the crap out of 4th graders, and the terror of being in high school and worrying that at any time God would make "The Call" to you and want you to be a priest!
I had a friend, a wonderful man, all through high school he wanted to be a priest, but he mixed with all the cliques and was a great guy. He became a priest, then a pastor, and had a nervous breakdown, left the priesthood, got married and is a pretty happy guy now. I admire the courage it took for him to leave, it was a big scandal in his family, but he had to do it, and I'm thankful for the guys that have the true calling to do that difficult job.
Very good beer.
Thanks for the laughs, you continue to prove my point. Jumping from a TV show that you have to pay for to pedophiles and serial killers? Are we being a bit of a drama queen?
As long as it isn't Iron City beer, its a miracle.
That stuff is nasty!
BTW, I'm not a Pilot, I went to college.
You liking me is probably to my detriment on this thread...lol. Just kidding CS.
You know, I went to Catholic schools of and on too, but I never witnessed any nuns taking the ruler to students, nor any of other similar actions often attributed to nuns. I had one nun who came close to losing her temper with me when I locked her in the closet...LMAO!
Worst abuse by a nun: 4th grade, a fellow student from a pretty bad broken home, with a brother in jail for theft, etc. His father died that year of cancer, worsening his situation. We had a nun that abused him, would beat him, throw him into the closet and scream "Oh, you wanna cry because your father is dead?"
The nun was unbalanced to say the least, she beat the hell out of students for the most minor of offenses. As for the kid mentioned above, he dropped out of high school found work as a mechanic and laborer, last time I talked to him he had a few DWI's, his brother became a big drug dealer, and died a few years ago.
That nun was unstable, clearly, even at that age we all knew it. That being said, we had some great nuns and priests later on. In High School, we had a fantastic priest who became a priest, served as a green beret in Korea and in Vietnam and retired to our high school. A great guy, but after all the horrors of war, he couldn't handle the bizzare nature of teaching Catholic sex ed to freshmen (my friend noted during the Natural Planning part "Father, I am number 10 in my family, Natural Planning does not work!")
I'm #7, it didn't work with us (thank God!)
Some people can find humor in many things, sorry that you can't.
I'm not Catholic. I have serious doubts about some of their teachings. But I'll lay that aside.
I was born in 1945. I remember hearing, seeing and reading about this fine human being and her work from the late 50's. Maybe she had her faults though none that standout proven to me that I recall.
Like I said she probably had some faults,she was human. But cheap two-bit talk slandering other human beings was not one of them.
She never sought fame, fortune, nor praise. If she did then she was a failure, at least in the fortune part.
I never seen her driving around everyday in her black limo,or at her mansion in Spain, or at some resort on the Riviera or on the beach at Martha's Vineyard.
I never seen her seek a media event. Sometimes however they sought her.
I can tell you where they found her. In some of the most horrible,filthy,dangerous disease,rodent infested slums on the planet.
I would have said God forsaken but He had one of his better ambassadors there.
She was there trying to help as best she could some of the most pitiful sick and starving forgotten people in our world.
She wasn't there walking through on some 15 minute UN political tour. She spent most of a lifetime of seven day weeks, 24 hour days serving her fellow man. If she got rich I never seen what she spent it on for herself.
I know some people that need help didn't get it from her. When you are trying to feed and doctor the masses she was trying to help ,well there's just no way you can.
I have often wondered in my sixty years why people go out of their way to criticize, attack and destroy a person who dedicates their life to serving the needs of their fellow human beings.
She spent half a lifetime doing so before most of her modern know-it-all critics where even borne.
What possible good can be gained by saying things so bitterly spiteful of a person who is dead and gone and unable to defend herself?
Someone of who they know nothing about or the work they do except that spoken by a wagging tongue.There is only one reason I have been able to come up with.
The reason I believe they do so is, when they look at such a person as Mother Teresa they see just how selfish, self-centered and insignificant they and their own lives are.
No she is not a John Paul.
But if John Paul was the man people think he was and I'm not about to say he wasn't, he would have been quick to say he was no Mother Teresa either.
Unfortunately for the world neither are the two jerks and the company they represent.
BTW what have you done for humanity lately besides criticize someone who dedicated their entire life trying to help others?
Definitely unbalanced. Damn shame too. Her abuse could not have helped your little friend at all. Sickening.
I love your post.
Mean spirited cheapshots are not my idea of a good time.
There's no sly wit that's go into Penn and Teller's Bullsh@t. I watched their first season and was underwhelmed.
They use a club not a deft sleight of hand.
Southpark is brilliant because it doesn't beat people over the head with its messages. Eddie Izzard is brilliant.
P&T not funny, not truthful, just embittered geeks.
Frothing jaded malice is not my idea of humor.