Skip to comments.Today: Katie's Krokodile Tears [More Concern for Baby Alligator than Human Life]
Posted on 05/26/2005 4:24:33 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
It was just a throw-away line on a throw-away filler piece. Yet in its own way it was deeply revealing of the liberal mindset.
At the end of its top-of-the-hour news recap, Today ran a piece about a Florida family that had found a small alligator lounging in its backyard swimming pool. Today aired footage of authorities roping and removing the reptile.
Katie then murmured "gee, I hope it will be released and be OK," with Matt Lauer ominously informing Katie that things sometimes don't work out too well for the alligator in such situations.
So there it was. Katie's crocodile tears for . . . a crocodile. OK, an alligator, but who's counting?
Yet another example of the liberal mindset at work. From snail darters to spotted owls to baby seals to alligators, liberal hearts bleed at the thought of any harm being done to animals.
But 40 million and counting babies aborted since Roe v. Wade? Hey, when's the next march where we can "celebrate a woman's right to choose"? Starving and dehydrating Terri Schiavo to death? Hey, her life wasn't meaningful anyhow.
This erases any positives that you have attempted to present.
n00bs acting like b00bs.
They won't be kicked off, they will leave on their own.
The n00bs that have thin skins and are too lazy to to any research but continue to shoot off their mouths soon tire of FR because people rightfully treat them like trolls.
When a 'newbie' disagrees with a 'regular', he get's called a troll, then come the troll pictures and next thing you know that person has been 'removed'. Disagreeing with someone is 'baiting' that person.
I saw it several times during the 'Schiavo' debate and that is why I waited so long to join. My viewpoints contrasted with several people here and I saw no reason to join in that mess.
Somehow, a story about a baby aliigator and Katie Couric is just not worth it to me. There are more interesting articles to discuss.
OTOH, there's a not very funny side to this. This state is infested with gators - the damned things are everywhere. One of the other engineers at my office did a field visit at a nearby lake to look at some stuff. He spotted 80 alligators after walking less than a mile along the shore (this is a big lake, 5,000 acres or so).
With all the gators and all the people coming in, showdowns are inevitable, especially when people start feeding the gators. That's illegal, but they do it anyway.
Once they get fed, they lose their fear of humans and see them as a food source, and then they become a serious menace and usually end up being destroyed, hopefully before they've killed someone. You can't tame these things like you do dogs and cats.
Yes, she is entitled to her personal views.
She is not, however, to pass off her personal views as objective truth or even "news". This, IMHO, is where the MSM goes off the tracks. Finally, the Today Show is paying the price for that behavior with "plunging" ratings. (remember, governs - SOP now is to say that the Today show's ratings are "plunging"?! LOL)
Clearly, you are a newbie. Governs has been keeping an eye on the Today Show so the rest of us don't have to suffer through it. He's been making these posts for a long time. He lets us know what the MSM vis a vis the Today Show is up to.
Know your enemy!
Please explain why, after questioning the existence of evidence that Couric is pro-choice, you declined to view rather clear-cut evidence of just that?
Thanks, Artist. I think you've made a prima facie case for Couric's pro-choice views. Oddly, after demanding proof thereof, softwarecreator has so far refused to review it!
If this is something you *wonder* about, I'm not sure that anyone can help you see.
Everyone keeps showing 'proof' of her bias when she is OFF the air. no one has shown proof of this DURING a show.
You mentioned she had more concern for this than Terri Schiavo ... what did she do for you to say this. You offered NO proof ... show me direct quotes or actions and I could agree with you.
My point is this:
It was a story about a baby alligator being taken from a pond and she showed concern for it. What should she have said "look at that lil' gator, I hope they chop it up into little pieces and sprinkle in the 'glades'"? Or should she have said ... "They killed Terri, so let's waste the ugly varmint". Maybe something like ... "Sure they kill unborn babies, yet they let this ugly thing live" would have been more appropriate?
That is what my response was about ... not what you did yesterday or whether you are a 'watchdog' for the media. That stuff is all great and I will probably look into your past threads to see what else you've done ... most of which is probably very informative. But what should she have done differently in this story to show her concern for Terri and abortion?
I am asking about a particular story, nothing more.
What else should she have said during this ONE story to show affection for unborn fetuses?
What am I not seeing?
Oh, puh-leeze! It happens from time to time, but not with the regularity that you both imply.
I've been here since just after the inception of FR, and the very difficult job that the moderators do is handled exceptionally well.
Pre-moderator, it was pretty wild and woolly around here, I'll tell you that much. There is a very real threat of "trolls" and "disruptors" ruining a board and so fogging the facts in various threads that the board becomes worthless. It has been tried here numerous times.
I've seen your posts before, softwarecreator, so I didn't come down on you as a troll. I did feel that you needed to be educated on glgb's Couric expertise, though. The $15 Million Dollar Woman still influences millions of Americans daily (though her ratings are declining precipitously - LOL!) and she needs to be watched and cross-checked into the boards for the smallest reason.
I feel that you are moving the goal posts. When I wrote that I felt I had made the case that Couric is pro-choice, you asked "how?"
When a number of fellow FReepers went to the time and trouble of providing links to material demonstrating Couric's pro-choice position, you chose to ignore it.
Are you now willing to concede that there is strong evidence that Couric is pro-choice?
If so, do you not see the moral inconsistency in lamenting the possible mistreatment of an alligator while "celebrating" a woman's right to end the life of an unborn baby?
I can NOT stand the MSM and that is why I no longer watch them. It's ALL left wing propoganda and lies, we all know this.
But why does EVERY single freakin' story have to involve Terri Schiavo???
Can't there even be a story about a baby alligator without invoking the sacred name of TS???
What you're not seeing is this: How many of the other morning shows covered this, let alone with a tear in their eye about it?
I'm sure La Couric and Mattie exert some sort of editorial control over their newsreading - and determining what gets commented on or what gets passed over in silence is a great deal of what passes for "news" in this country.
glgb was right to call her on her Greenie BS.
Maybe you could educate yourself on the *facts* of what Gov does.
What you are not seeing is any expression by Couric, in all her years at Today, of concern for the millions of babies who have been aborted pursuant to her beloved right "to choose."
*why does EVERY single freakin' story have to involve Terri Schiavo???*
If you would go back and have a look at my Today Show posts, you'd find that few if any of them have mentioned the Schiavo case since the time of her death. Here's a link to my blog that brings together most of my Today Show threads:
Thanks and I will review them, but please answer the question I asked a looooooong time ago .... what should she have DONE differently in this ONE story that would have made any difference to NOT show her political viewpoints about Terri and abortion?
I dunno ... I didn't watch this or any of the morning shows, never do.
He gave me a link ... thanks for your help.
I wouldn't have asked her to do anything different in this story. But if she's going to express such exquisite concern for alligators, then somewhere in her years of broadcasting I would have expected her to express anything like the same concern for the victims of abortion.
She should have not done the story at all, like all the other morning shows prolly didn't.
It was a cheap cute puppy/fuzzy kitten story, done to show how "caring" and "empathetic" the affable Eva Braun is underneath her 3-pancake makeup.
After all, she's got to wash off the bloodstains from the knife that her producer got in the back... ;-)
Don't give them the ratings ... let them wither and die!
Why? Maybe people in Florida were interested. I know I'd be interested.
After all, she's got to wash off the bloodstains from the knife that her producer got in the back... ;-)
Yeah, probably, I don't watch today and just barely know who Katie is.
Maybe because abortion is controversial and removing a baby alligator is not.
I guess I just don't understand what info you are drawing watching this piece of crap show.
Millions of other Americans do. Some of us on FR have a self-appointed function of media watchdog to counter the propaganda presented to these unsuspecting viewers. glgb is a dedicated specialist, and he has nipped at the heels of the overpaid Botoxed Blonde B*tch from nBc for years.
It was just such a small posse of dedicated FR media watchers that brought "Blath Danner" low over at SeeBS. The Danner has been replaced by Schief "Purple Rage" Bobber, but hopefully we'll get the Bobber and his aging strumpet Gloria Borger one of these days, too. ;-)
glgb can't realistically report on the WHOLE show. He just does the [pretty much daily] summary. As you can see from my post #58, others add in their impressions and snippets from the morning shows. I believe that I caught Today putting a grim face on good news this morning (as has been reported by glgb MANY times in the past) and decided to post what I saw.
But honestly, saying that telling people not to watch these stupid shows means I should tell the CIA not to monitor terrorists wasn't a very good analogy, was it?
No offense GLGB =)
HAHAHAHA ... you guys should form a tag-team
It's too bad you suffer thru this crap to begin with ... you have my sympathies.
I'm not backing off my analogy. No, I don't consider Katie Couric a threat to the USA in the same way I do Al Qaida. But I do think it's valid to say that in the same way it's worthwhile for our intelligence services to keep track of our military opponents, it makes sense for conservatives to keep track of liberal media opponents.
Do you disagree? You never responded to my question of whether, in the same way you advised me to stop watching and reporting on liberal bias at Today, you would advise MRC, Bernie Goldberg, Accuracy in Media and a host of others to desist from their efforts.
Yeah. 'Today' is an entertainment show. People can turn it off and the country would be a much better place. You can't say the same about monitoring terrorists.
You could not watch 'Today' for the next six months and the country would be fine.
This is not a good policy to apply toward terrorist monitoring.
Leaving aside my paltry efforts here at FR, you are seriously mistaken, IMHO, if you believe it's not worthwhile for the variety of conservative activists out there to keep track of what the liberal media is up to.
Moreover, the vast audience that has made "Bias" a best-seller and supports operations such as MRC indicate that many feel the information they provide is valuable.
The seditious behavior of Today and its ilk is not the same as blowing up planes and buildings, I'll agree. But we have to remember that Uncle Walter @ SeeBS and his MSM pals turned the failed Tet Offensive into a victorious media coup for the North Vietnamese.
Can we as a country afford to have al-Katie Commie get away with boosting our current enemies while disguised as a harmless Greenie "save the whales, kittens and baby alligators" phony?
I'm sure Dan Rather and Mary Mapes had a similar light-hearted attitude towards our paltry efforts here at FR - until their forged-documents ship ran hard aground on the uncharted reef of Buckhead of the Free Republic...
No, I do agree. I think that you are helping bring some of this crap into the light.
Guess I just didn't associate national security with a baby alligator story. Obviously, there is NO way I could have known any of this from your original post. Still, I am not sure that Katie's personal views on abortion OR Terri Schiavo means that she should not report on a family having a man-eating reptile removed from their swimming pool.
I wasn't being flippant ... I think it's great that you guys are watching these people closely!!!
They've been getting away with lies for too long.
I had no problem with the story itself. In the very first line of my report, I described it as "just a throw-away line on a throw-away filler piece."
It's the lack of moral consistency that bothers me. If once, just once, in the course of her career, she had similarly shed a tear for the victims of abortion . . .
I may not feel that EVERY story needs to be examined, such as the gator thing, but I DO agree.
I absolutely LOATHE our American MSM and what they are doing, or trying to do.
Mostly I reponded to this story because I just get sick of everyone twisting ANY story into a Terri Schiavo or abortion debate.
You're all over the place.
I don't think the family who had the man-eating reptile in their pool feel the same. Escpecially if 'mama' decided to show up and decided to protect her baby. =)
Read the posts from the beginning AND know what I am talking about before you respond ... okay?
I'm going to hang it up for the time being on this thread. I think it's been constructive. Sofwarecreator wandered in, and on a certain level I can understand his view about Schiavo being invoked in apparently unrelated stories. He was unaware of the tradition of FR's Today Show threads.
Now that he understands what we're up to with these reports, I think he has acknowledged their value. I'm willing to leave it at that, with the hope that he will check out future threads.