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Wal Mart's Exploitive Practices Attacked By Website
Wake Up Wal-Mart ^

Posted on 05/26/2005 6:27:37 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Because of Wal-Mart's inadequate wages and benefits, Wal-Mart employees are eligible for $2.5 billion in Federal assistance, which comes from your tax dollars.

(Excerpt) Read more at wakeupwalmart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: dujerks; gowalmart; ihateamerika; marxistidiots; nutjobs; populistmorons; rejoiceinwalmart; socialistcons; wallyhaters; walmart; walmartsucks; youshoptheretoo
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1 posted on 05/26/2005 6:27:38 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: A. Pole; Ramonan; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones

Companies like Wal-Mart give free enterprise and capitalism a bad name. Socialists should thank them for the free propoganda.


2 posted on 05/26/2005 6:29:48 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued

All of this could be solved if we eliminated those federal assistance program.

Voila. Problem vanishes.


3 posted on 05/26/2005 6:30:17 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Clintonfatigued
Companies like Wal-Mart give free enterprise and capitalism a bad name.

Feel free not to work there or shop there. Otherwise, it's none of your business how they operate their business, as long as it's legal.
4 posted on 05/26/2005 6:31:02 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Clintonfatigued
That's BS put forth by retail unions. Fact is ... there are tow motor operators at WalMart distribution centers around the country that are millionaires ... thanks to WalMart stock option plans.
5 posted on 05/26/2005 6:31:55 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Clintonfatigued
Wal-Mart, the Haliburton of retail.
6 posted on 05/26/2005 6:33:39 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: flashbunny

You're only partly right. In order for there to be support for ending such programs, work has to pay enough for the workers to subsist on their own.


7 posted on 05/26/2005 6:34:15 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued
And unions solve problems for the workers how.

I know they give them some of the vig from loan sharks.

8 posted on 05/26/2005 6:34:33 PM PDT by dts32041 (Robin Hood, stealing from the government and giving back to tax payer. Where is he today?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Don't work at Walmart if you don't like the wages and benefits.


9 posted on 05/26/2005 6:36:01 PM PDT by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Wait a minute, how did they conclude that Walmart's wages and benefits were "inadequate"?


10 posted on 05/26/2005 6:36:20 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Conservative til I die

Do you have similar ideas about other issues, like abortion?


11 posted on 05/26/2005 6:36:30 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued
Because of Wal-Mart's inadequate wages and benefits, Wal-Mart employees are eligible for $2.5 billion in Federal assistance, which comes from your tax dollars.

And if those jobs didn't exist, the cost would be even more.

12 posted on 05/26/2005 6:36:52 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Ruddles

Halliburton, that is.


13 posted on 05/26/2005 6:37:12 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: Clintonfatigued

No! No! You are supposed to attack Wal-Mart on the weekend!


14 posted on 05/26/2005 6:37:12 PM PDT by gogipper
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To: Clintonfatigued

Obviously there is something wrong with the level at which Federal assistance programs are pegged...


15 posted on 05/26/2005 6:37:19 PM PDT by sailor4321
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To: Ruddles
Wal-Mart, the Haliburton of retail.

Yes, both great companies.

16 posted on 05/26/2005 6:37:27 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

So, Wal-Mart is a good argument for socialism, huh? I don't think you and I are going to agree much on political or economic matters.


17 posted on 05/26/2005 6:37:42 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: flashbunny; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; ...
"Because of Wal-Mart's inadequate wages and benefits, Wal-Mart employees are eligible for $2.5 billion in Federal assistance, which comes from your tax dollars."

All of this could be solved if we eliminated those federal assistance program. Voila. Problem vanishes.

Please elaborate. It is very interesting.

18 posted on 05/26/2005 6:39:02 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: Clintonfatigued

You know, thinking back, last time I went to Wal-Mart none of the employees had chains on their legs. They seemed to be free to roam at will. Those who have skills and initiative and don't want to work at Wal-mart will soon find a position that they do like, because they are not enchained there.


19 posted on 05/26/2005 6:39:21 PM PDT by gogipper
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To: popdonnelly
Wait a minute, how did they conclude that Walmart's wages and benefits were "inadequate"?

As if the local merchants with over-priced goods who would put things on order for you for 6 weeks provided their stock-boys with health insurance.

20 posted on 05/26/2005 6:39:26 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King

Blamed for everything, Rodney.


21 posted on 05/26/2005 6:40:57 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: Clintonfatigued

What about the economic benefit to the people who buy stuff at Walmart? There sure seem to be a lot of them.


22 posted on 05/26/2005 6:41:41 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Clintonfatigued
Just for kicks, why don't you start a business of your own...

and report back to us once a year. That should be a real education for you.

23 posted on 05/26/2005 6:41:47 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: Clintonfatigued

It isn't WalMart's fault that the people who work their don't have hardly any marketable skills.

If they can get a job with good pay, they would have one.

Nobody said working at WalMart gave you the ability to buy your own home, medical insurance and to have a maid.

More than likely, the common single WalMart employee would live with several people and RENT, could get health insurance but would have to clean their own dishes.

What a stupid website.


24 posted on 05/26/2005 6:41:53 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: gogipper

"You know, thinking back, last time I went to Wal-Mart none of the employees had chains on their legs. They seemed to be free to roam at will."

Exactly, these statists on the board think that an arbitrary standard of "fairness" trumps freedom.


25 posted on 05/26/2005 6:42:15 PM PDT by Betaille
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To: A CA Guy

First their = there


26 posted on 05/26/2005 6:42:34 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Last I checked, no one was forcing anyone to work at Wal-Mart or shop at Wal-Mart. And the Rosetta Whasername from Illinois, I have to call BS on her story from the start. None of the employees are "locked in" the Sam's Club stores overnight. One, that would be false imprisonment. Two, it would violate fire codes. The doors in every Sam's Club I've ever been in (and the majority of other retail stores for that matter) lock to prevent entry--not to prevent exit. Is Rosetta Whasername alleging that the "big, bad boss" chained the doors?


27 posted on 05/26/2005 6:43:35 PM PDT by flada (Y2K? What are you selling, chicken or sex jelly?)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Do you have similar ideas about other issues, like abortion?

Poor comparison. Nobody's talking about killing babies.

28 posted on 05/26/2005 6:44:06 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Clintonfatigued
I just started working at Wal-Mart about two months ago. I find it a very interesting place to work.
Wal-Mart's pay is a little low at the beginning but if you work hard and do right you get raises and can move up.
I get a raise after my initial three months and I can see right now that if you want to move up into management or whatever there are opportunities to do so.
Tell one company where you start out with real high wages.
Wal-Mart is now the whipping boy whereas Sears was the whipping boy for some of the same things 35 years ago and of course Sears for the most part is history.
If Wal-Mart doesn't keep innovating and staying on the cutting edge it to will become a dinosaur and vanish.
Capitalism is by it's nature a wave of destruction as one economist put it many years ago.
29 posted on 05/26/2005 6:44:08 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: flada

Cheney locked the doors. Sam's Club is his secure location.


30 posted on 05/26/2005 6:45:43 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: Clintonfatigued; All

Please understand where these attacks are coming from. Her name is Mrs. HEINZ-KERRY. And .. she is funding ultra left-wing activist groups, through her Tides Foundation, who are attacking Wal-Mart.

She's all upset because the unions can't get a foothold inside Wal-Mart - and because Wal-Mart donates a lot more money to repubs than to dems.

People want low prices .. the only way that can happen is when the store owner keeps expenses LOW too. So .. Wal-Mart doesn't hire very many full-time employees and therefore doesn't have to supply the part-timers with health-care benefits. This keeps the costs down and keeps prices down.


31 posted on 05/26/2005 6:46:04 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Clintonfatigued
An obvious example of this is California's "Healthy Families" program which provides free medical to those covered. The program applies to families (legal or not) whose income is equal to or less than twice the Federal poverty level (for a family of four, that's about $40,000 per year!). So, a liberal state passes out an incredible freebie and then interest groups such as labor unions use this program to demogogue an employer such as Walmart. Other interest groups use the same data to lobby for State control of health care on the basis of the number or percentage of "uninsured" --- when the people covered are simply making the logical decision not to pay for insurance when state programs already insure they don't need it.
32 posted on 05/26/2005 6:46:30 PM PDT by sailor4321
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To: flada

Cheney locked the doors. Sam's Club is his secure location.


33 posted on 05/26/2005 6:46:38 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: Clintonfatigued

I like Wal-Mart.

I buy stuff for the troops there, and their generic meds are the most inexpensive, and they let me sit at a table in front during election years to pass out information on candidates.

Our unemployment rate here is around 20%, so the distribution center and the store have created jobs that were needed.

I don't buy their made in China items.


34 posted on 05/26/2005 6:46:53 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spans)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Wal Mart is the big first among probably many to come, some already here, causing a lowering of employee wages. There are many, many smaller outfits who don't pay a living wage.

Just because their business practices are legal doesn't mean they are moral.

They, like others, use part-time employment to dodge having to pay benefits. Few except the upper echelon full-time employees are paid a living wage on that job alone.

I'd sign the petition if I saw any hope of changing. I don't like to shop there or any of the mega stores that look like warehouses no matter how many lights, bells, whistles and promos they have. I do make an exception to shop at Aldi's sometimes.

35 posted on 05/26/2005 6:46:55 PM PDT by Aliska
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I think it means that some people who are eligible for social security work at Wal-Mart. The horror. The horror.


36 posted on 05/26/2005 6:47:00 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Ruddles

Looks like a hit and run from Clintonfatigued. I would be fatigued too going so many years without Clinton if I held his views.


37 posted on 05/26/2005 6:47:02 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
Correct--that they receive assistance stinks, but how about if they weren't working at Wal-Mart? We'd be covering THAT portion of the non-existant income, too.

The problem isn't Wal-Mart; the problem is the program that exists to pay them the balance of their income. If no such program existed, people couldn't afford to work there at less than subsistence wage. Many times in my adult life I was making "poverty level" wages and lived just fine, never took a handout from the government (i.e. never picked the pockets of anyone here or elsewhere). So the idea that if one is making "pverty level wages" means they're living in the street and starving is bunk--that's just a number the government uses for their purposes.

The answer isn't denouncing Wal-Mart. We live in a capitalistic society--I know that's shocking to some folks, though it shouldn't be, seeing how capitalism is the greatest system there is for bringing people out of poverty and allowing them to construct their lives as they see fit. How many immigrants to this country have worked low-money jobs, perhaps multiple ones, SAVED their money, and gone on to their own businesses, large or small?

If you don't want to make Wal-Mart money, don't work at Wal-Mart--THE END.

38 posted on 05/26/2005 6:47:11 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious
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To: popdonnelly
What about the economic benefit to the people who buy stuff at Walmart? There sure seem to be a lot of them.

I save at least $50/month shopping at Walmart.

That's money I can pump into other sectors of the economy.

That means more people benefit from my shopping at Walmart than just me.

39 posted on 05/26/2005 6:47:40 PM PDT by Jorge
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I save at least $50/month shopping at Walmart. That's money I can pump into other sectors of the economy. That means more people benefit from my shopping at Walmart than just me.

That's right. My grocery bill at Walmart is about $120 per week. Anywhere else it would be 160. Thats 40 bucks a week that I spend somewhere else.

40 posted on 05/26/2005 6:49:05 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: A. Pole

Well, let's see, you eliminate the programs and the people aren't eligible for them anymore. Seems fairly straight forward.


41 posted on 05/26/2005 6:50:04 PM PDT by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: Clintonfatigued

OK with me, if it shuts down more unions.


42 posted on 05/26/2005 6:50:55 PM PDT by MonroeDNA ("Eat my body, drink my blood"--Catholics)
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To: Betaille

They use the invisible fence system.


43 posted on 05/26/2005 6:51:14 PM PDT by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: A CA Guy

The smell of pomposity and the stench of arrogance permeates your post.

There, but for the grace of God go I.

I encourage you to ponder the Biblical exhortation of "False pride goeth before a fall.

Assume not that tomorrow might find you in circumtstances worse.

Flame away if you wish, I do not care.


44 posted on 05/26/2005 6:52:41 PM PDT by Hilltop
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To: Aliska
don't pay a living wage.

Entry level jobs are not meant to support a family of four.

I know some people would think that they weren't living if they didn't have the money to pay for a cell phone, cable, internet connection, take out food and designer jeans, but many of us lived long portions of our lives without them.

We also lived with air conditioning in our homes and cars.

Go to Bangladesh and Rio if you want to see what a real living wage is.

45 posted on 05/26/2005 6:54:23 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spans)
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To: Ruddles
Waliburton???
46 posted on 05/26/2005 6:54:35 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Aliska

Just don't work there, if you can make more money elsewhere.


47 posted on 05/26/2005 6:55:21 PM PDT by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: Dog Gone

Our Wal-Marts are dirty, and the staff and customers aren't the cream of the crop, but they sure do have low prices. I'm glad they're around.


48 posted on 05/26/2005 6:56:03 PM PDT by ReadyNow
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To: Clintonfatigued
Ive said it before and Ill say it again.

LAMEST ANTI-WALMART ARGUEMENT EVER!

I always ask, and never get an answer...

What is a fair wage for shelf-stockers and cashiers? $6-8/hr sounds fair to me.

This is just a thinly veiled push for 'Living Wage' legislation wrapped up in anti-Walmart hysteria, which too many freepers buy into unfortunately.
49 posted on 05/26/2005 6:56:06 PM PDT by somniferum (All warfare is deception - Sun Tzu)
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To: Hilltop

I thought his post was pretty truthful. The fact is, not everybody can have a house and 2 cars. The attempt to make it so is called Socialism. And that leads to NOBODY having a house and 2 cars.

Capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.


50 posted on 05/26/2005 6:56:29 PM PDT by Betaille
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