Posted on 05/30/2005 7:03:30 PM PDT by SmithL
Anyone contending THAT must never have read Karl Marx.
I find many members to be very hypocritical and inconsistent, especially with respect to the life of unborn babies. That's why I could not be a member.
Thanks.
I strongly object to the mistreatment of animals. If she witnessed these abuses, she should have reported it to her superiors at the company where she worked to see if they would take corrective actions.To stand idly by while these alleged abuses continued is inexcusable. I've known several people who work in animal research facilities, who are also animal lovers. There ARE ways to do animal research humanely.
Animals have no rights and can never respect nor understand them. Animals are not human.
I believe we are to be good stewards of them.
You would, pardon the pun, "have a cow" if you realized people on farms have to kick away animals when mobbed by them. That is life, but to you animal rightists, it should be "subject to legal penalties".
No, it shouldn't be legally handled. Simply shame those who do what you don't like. Keep the law out of it.
Do you think our Founders ever kept their animals in what we would now think was a "humane" fashion? Of course not!
You know, I hate PETA as much as anyone here. There are a million things to go after them for.... there links to terrorist activity, there apposition to necessary medical and scientific research, their war on the American farmer, their obsene and indecent nudity and gruesome media campaigns that our children are exposed to, etc. BUT I do not understand this whole "PETAkillsanimals.com" website and line of attack.
All they are doing in this case is euthanasia which they actually PUBLICLY endorse and PROMOTE as the "compassionate option" (so its not hypocrisy) which pretty much all humane shelters practice, etc. So I don't see how this line of criticism, that PETA puts animals down, will have any traction at all with the general public.
Let's focus on their real crimes.
I'd have to agree with this also. There is a distinct difference between utilizing animals as a resource and sadism. Those who inflict pain on an animal for the mere pleasure of it is socially ill and needs to be dealt with before they seek pleasure from inflicting pain on humans. Hunting, conducting medical experiments, fishing, etc. is different since the killing of the animal is directly tied to a utilized end.... inflicting pain for mere sport is not sport.
ConservativeMind: "Do you think our Founders ever kept their animals in what we would now think was a "humane" fashion? Of course not!"
Do you think our Founders kept blacks in what we would now think was a "civil" fashion?
My philosophy RE: animals is that I aspire to the balance of Ted Nugent.
I love his philosophy, of how he only eats want he hunts, traps or catches. He does not eat store boughten "flesh" as he calls it. I try to supplement my diet with as much wildgame as possible but am not able to go outdoorsing as much as I used to due to my health.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0430_030430_tednugent.html
They like to pretend that they care for animals. Killing them is not care. It is not my line of attack. I just think they are Pharisees.
The technicians should be taught how to properly treat the animals in their care. They should not be treated roughly, cursed at, nor should they be left in their cages while the cages are hosed down. Their lives should be made as pleasant as possible. After all, they are valuable and they are doing humanity a great service. Also, they are living, breathing creatures belonging to God, just as we are.
I think that a family who puts a beloved pet "down" would say they are doing it out of compassion for that animal, to end their suffering. So I think any family who has had to go put a pet down will not think its hypocritical to both care for an animal and to practice euthanasia. That's just me.
I think PETAsupportsterrorists.com or PETAwantsyourkidtodie.com would be much better.
There most definitely should be laws against cruelty to animals. Animals are God's creatures just as we are. They deserve to be treated in a humane way.
Do you think that someone who sets a cat on fire or who ties a dog to a tree and leaves it there to starve to death should get off without punishment? If you do, I pity you.
Boy would abortion clinics be pissed off if they were recorded giving false info to an underage girl in a parental notice state or hiding a statutory rape. Partial birth abotion on tape - would that be fair? How about PETA training programs or animal shelters? I'm not advocating as such but it is only time before someone starts fighting fire with fire.
Boy would abortion clinics be pissed off if they were recorded giving false info to an underage girl in a parental notice state or hiding a statutory rape. Partial birth abotion on tape - would that be fair? How about PETA training programs or animal shelters? I'm not advocating as such but it is only time before someone starts fighting fire with fire.
The obvious contradiction lies in their choice of words, which imply that Man and his artifacts are not part of "Nature"
Michael Jackson owned a chimpanzee. Sort of ironic.
They are self-righteous hypocrites whose philosophy, when examined in detail, is irrational. (A rat = a dog = a boy. I. Newkirk, PETA founder)
Okay, fine.
Injuring an animal for fun, or torturing it is something that should be punished by law. Those people go on to harm people, too. Euthanasia is, I guess, what has to be done when there a so many animals in shelters and no homes for them. I don't agree with it, but I can't take them all in.
Torturing and injuring for fun is a crime. You must agree with that. No animal should have to suffer just so people can get some kind of sick pleasure out of it.
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