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Freedom of Religion is its Own Enemy
World Wide Web ^ | 5/26/05 | Henry R. Sturman

Posted on 06/01/2005 9:24:53 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew

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To: little jeremiah
helping to sharpen one's intelligence and communication skills, and good for lurkers who haven't made up their minds yet about issues such as this, for instance, young people.

Very true...maybe I need to reconsider.

Cordially,
GE
241 posted on 06/06/2005 1:13:43 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: little jeremiah
Wow - a new compendium. I'll ping my list to it.

Appreciate it.

Christians and Jews alike need to wake up to the none-to-subtle assault that has been going on for years, and is gaining new vigor and adherents. And I say this as a not particulary observant Episcopalian/Honorary Jew- whatever doubts I may harbor personally pale beside the organized attempt to silence, demean, marginalize, and segregate people of faith.

Everyone who believes in religious freedom, freedom of speech, and the right to live in peace as they see fit needs to wake up, and resist this nasty trend.

242 posted on 06/06/2005 1:33:55 PM PDT by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)...)
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To: Quark2005

"The available historical citations of the era just don't back this assertion."


The 2nd President, of the United States of America, John Adams made the following statements:

"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people . It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Upon his Father's passing, President John Quincy Adams stated the following:

"The highest glory of the American Revolution was this, it connected in one indissoluble bond, principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity."

President George Washington stated:

"You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ ."

"It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible."

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars."

"Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education of minds, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle ."

I believe the Word of God is the only foundation our Nation should have. A sound democracy can not be built on a Nation with no morals or religious convictions.


243 posted on 06/06/2005 1:38:44 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

I've read his profile. At least he understands biology.


244 posted on 06/06/2005 4:52:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Who was the real Dashwood?


245 posted on 06/06/2005 4:52:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: bassmaner; Right Wing Professor
What's so funny about that? TJ most certainly *was* a 'liberal', in the true sense of the word. Today's 'Rats, MSM, academia, and entertainment types are *not* 'liberals'. They're LEFTISTS.

bassmaner is correct. Jefferson was an old shcool "liberal". When it came to social issues he was a staunch conservitave. For example...

Nobody with a sane understanding of our constitution can seriously believe that homosexual marriage is a civil right; after all, sodomy was then illegal everywhere and remained so for the next 200 years. The Virginia statutes, drafted by Thomas Jefferson, went so far as to specify that male homosexuals should be castrated, and that holes should be drilled through the nose of female homosexuals.

Laws mean what their authors intend for them to mean, and the authors of the United States constitution uniformly regarded homosexuality as an unspeakable perversion; it was not their idea to protect it.

Jefferson drafted a bill concerning Virginia’s criminal law providing that the penalty for sodomy should be castration. See Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew A. Lipscomb, ed. (Washington, Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1904) Vol. I, pp.226-27, from Jefferson’s “For Proportioning Crimes and Punishments.”

The bill read: “Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least.” (Virginia Bill number 64; authored by Jefferson; 18 June 1779)

246 posted on 06/06/2005 5:22:36 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: xzins
... it does have public money, by virtue of various judicial decisions and a bit of accounting sleight of hand.

And it is in violation of their own sacred cow, Roe v. Wade...

247 posted on 06/06/2005 6:53:37 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Evolution
...eliminate the bloated bureaucracy called the Department of Education.

'Padlock the doors and fumigate the building.'

The word education is not in the Constitution...

Neither is the word marriage...

Neither does any person have a "right" to them...

248 posted on 06/06/2005 6:58:38 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
...Thomas Jefferson, went so far as to specify that male homosexuals should be castrated, and that holes should be drilled through the nose of female homosexuals.

With the perversions and piercings today, that might encourage them!

249 posted on 06/06/2005 7:02:26 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: little jeremiah

He hasn't the slightest comprehension of biology.

As to the real Dashwood, do the google search yourself. THIS is the man the FR Dashboard wants to be associated with. He is playing you. And laughing at you, as I laugh at him. You're a means to his ends.


250 posted on 06/06/2005 7:42:27 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (There is a grandeur in this view of life....)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

"The bill read: “Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least.” (Virginia Bill number 64; authored by Jefferson; 18 June 1779)"

Another reason not to deify the founding fathers.


251 posted on 06/06/2005 7:55:33 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (There is a grandeur in this view of life....)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; Sir Francis Dashwood

As to his understanding of biology, form designates function.

As to his namesake, pretty despicable. Doesn't nullify whatever truth in his arguments.

If he doesn't mean what he says, that's his loss.


252 posted on 06/06/2005 8:47:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

What the 'historian' was saying was, that the words seperation of church and state, were never found in that order in the Dansbery letter from T Jefferson. They are found in the Communist Manifesto. I am not saying that is correct, but the T Jefferson letter did not have that phrase in it.


253 posted on 06/23/2005 11:36:59 AM PDT by Rhadaghast
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