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7-Year-Old Suspected In Beating Death Of Baby Sister
WNBC Television ^ | 6/2/2005 | Puppage

Posted on 06/02/2005 7:15:50 AM PDT by Puppage

TAMPA, Fla. -- In an attack that's rattled even veteran detectives, police in Florida said a 7-year-old boy has confessed to beating his baby sister to death.

Investigators said the boy was jealous of the attention the infant was getting and upset by her crying. They said the boy beat the baby with his fists, feet and a two-by-four.

The attack occurred in Tampa, while the boy was visiting his father.

Police said the father and his girlfriend were outside with neighbors when the boy came out and told them the baby was "bleeding." They said the seven-month-old had a bloody nose, and wasn't breathing. The parents rushed the baby to a hospital, where she was pronounced dead.

A spokesman said detectives noted they'd never seen someone so young "show so much violence and so little remorse."


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To: B4Ranch
Would you mind doing it for Pete?

Hi B4, Pete is a big boy. If someone as computer illiterate as I am can google, anybody can google.

Alot of different information there, he'll just have to go through it.

151 posted on 06/02/2005 9:07:58 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Pete

Just an Example:

Survey Shows Dramatic Increase
in Child Abuse and Neglect, 1986-1993

Excerpts from HHS Release, September 18, 1996
Link to Full HHS Release


The Department of Health and Human Services released a survey estimating that child abuse and neglect in the United States nearly doubled during the seven years between 1986 and 1993.

According to the HHS study, the number of total child maltreatment instances that were investigated by state agencies remained constant from 1986 to 1993; however, the percentage of cases investigated declined dramatically.

"It is shameful and startling to see that so many more children are in danger and that proportionately fewer incidents are investigated," HHS Secretary Donna E. Shalala said. "Now states, schools, health care professionals -- all of us -- must commit ourselves to investigating and preventing child abuse with far greater effectiveness than we have seen in the past."

The report estimated the number of abused and neglected children increased from 1.4 million in 1986, to over 2.8 million in 1993. The number of children who were seriously injured quadrupled from about 143,000 to nearly 570,000.


152 posted on 06/02/2005 9:08:01 AM PDT by AZConcervative
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To: From many - one.

exactly....you know there is always more to it, then meets the eye.


153 posted on 06/02/2005 9:09:15 AM PDT by stormyseas
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To: colorcountry

When I was 7 I knew right from wrong. If this kid didn't know, his parents are worse than I already think they are.


154 posted on 06/02/2005 9:10:35 AM PDT by Ecthelion
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To: nmh
Most have od'ed on "self esteem" along with NO DISCIPLINE.

Amen! I just want to know whose idea that was was and why has this insanity been allowed to go on.

155 posted on 06/02/2005 9:11:32 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: stormyseas
Yep. I'm in a similar situation. My husband is not morally bankrupt because he is divorced. Heck, he didn't even want the divorce, but unfortunately his ex felt unfulfilled with monogamy. JMHO, painting all divorced people with the morally bankrupt brush is asinine.

Yes, children do suffer with divorce, but blaming a parent for something they could not prevent (thanks to no-fault divorce) is BS.

There is a whole lot of assumption going on about how horrible that dad and girlfriend are. Why not also assume that the father did not initiate the breakup of his previous marriage? Why not also assume that mommy dearest was fostering and encouraging jealousy of the infant half-sister?
156 posted on 06/02/2005 9:11:49 AM PDT by WolfRunnerWoman (I want closure on the word "closure".)
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To: All
I don't think murders or killings by children are a new phenomena. With the advent of all our technology, we are able to hear and read about it now.
157 posted on 06/02/2005 9:11:58 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: najida

1. An executioner, same as everybody else.
2. LI, Gas, etc. same as everybody else.
3. I'd have no problems with it, same as with living next to an executioner of adults.
4. And yes, we do already abort them, which is far messier and more painful to the baby that has done nothing wrong. In some cases, yes, I would like to live in a country that severely punishes anyone who murders someone else.


158 posted on 06/02/2005 9:13:37 AM PDT by Ecthelion
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To: Ecthelion

I have worked in the Justice field for almost eight years and there are so many contributing factors that are different in every case, and the juvenile rate is climbing in record numbers, in 1990 statistics say the average age of offenders in the juvenile court was 13 now I think it is 10, for a first arrest. I think everyone is at a loss as to which way to go. However, we do know that tougher laws have to be mandated against both parents and children, making them responsible, maybe then we can find some kind of deterrent, who knows...:(


159 posted on 06/02/2005 9:17:58 AM PDT by stormyseas
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To: walden

"My definition of love?"
I didn't give you one. All I said is that everyone can "love".
But love doesn't mean you know what is GOOD.
A crack whore "loves" her child, but isn't showing it any GOOD by getting stoned and passing out leaving it to fend for itself around all her transient boyfriends.


160 posted on 06/02/2005 9:18:10 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; St. Johann Tetzel; DaveTesla; mercygrace; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

Does anyone see a pattern here? So many articles about children killing children - or their parents. Notice the miserable family picture. Or rather non-family. Merely rutting animals, actually many animal families are more devoted and "human" than this.

When families are destroyed, when lifelong faithful monogamy is considered a useless quaint habit from the past, when illicit sex is considered practically mandatory, when children are considered a burden, this is what happens. Add to that highly violent and immoral "entertainment" and high rates of drug use, and this is what we get.*

Human beings utterly destroyed before they even reach adolescence.

If people were taught that the 10 Commandments were the basic rules for human behavior, what would be the harm?

Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.

*Add to the list the cultural understanding that there is no such thing as humans possessing an eternal soul, God as a Supreme Person does not exist, and there is no eternal justice or transcendent meaning and purpose to life, and voila!


161 posted on 06/02/2005 9:18:33 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Puppage

After reading the story earlier in the week about the bride who was gang-raped on her wedding night by the grooms friends, & endorsed by his parents, I thought I had seen it all! Now this. How very, very sad! Life has become so cheap!


162 posted on 06/02/2005 9:18:57 AM PDT by CarolinaGOP ("Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything." - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: WolfRunnerWoman

thank you.....it is ironic I am reading this story today as we are going through some similar displays of anger in my husbands children. His ex-wife now pregnant with #5 just keeps having them to raise themselves. And the courts are mostly for women, the sad thing is, women know it and take advantage of it. (not all, but it seems to be getting worse)I have seen what my husband has gone through with his ex just to see the kids.....it is discouraging.


163 posted on 06/02/2005 9:21:48 AM PDT by stormyseas
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To: AZConcervative
A couple of things:

First of all, the Left, like Shalala, has an ulterior motive - The destruction of the family by making every parent a suspect. In the last 15 years, parental rights have disintagrated. In my view, this is largely due to rare, extreme cases that are blown out of proportion by the press. After that, it is much easier for the nanny state proponents to pass new laws.

Second, look at the numbers you quoted. Do they make sense to you? 1.4 million to 2.8 million in 7 years? Even accounting for population increases, something is not right with those numbers. How were they defining "neglect" in 1986 versus 1993? How do they define it now? (As an aside, I grew up in the 70's. Under today's rules, I would have been long gone into foster care - just on the seatbelt laws alone).

True child abuse is horrific and should be punished to the full extent of the law. However, we should never let the exceptions be the justification for new laws that remove our freedoms. One thing that contributes to that happening is hysteria.

164 posted on 06/02/2005 9:22:30 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
It might be a result of pre-natal cocaine exposure...or any number of other drugs

It only took 67 posts to get there. I read these threads and am always amazed that every possible, conceivable reason for these atrocities gets stated and restated without ever getting to this thought.

If this phenomenon would be "studied" instead of the mating habits of a gnat, we may begin to solve the problem.

165 posted on 06/02/2005 9:25:59 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: WolfRunnerWoman

You are right of course. I'm not assigning blame to just the father, but also to who knows what is going on in the mothers home.
What we do know is the child acted out these problems in the worst possible way.
Obviously the father (and girl friend) were not watching either child, which leads us to believe they were more concerned with what activities they were doing than about the well-being of they kids they were responsible for.


166 posted on 06/02/2005 9:28:48 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Tempestuous

And who turned him into an animal? Unless he's got a purely physical/chemical reason for his actions then someone, probably a parent, caused him to be the way he is. Do you not believe that if he is taught what he should have been taught from birth that he can change? If he hasn't been taught right how is he to know right? Is he to be put to death because of the sins of his parents?


167 posted on 06/02/2005 9:29:09 AM PDT by Gardener
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To: Pete

So it is a conspiracy? Wow Pete, that is interesting. Good bye now.


168 posted on 06/02/2005 9:31:28 AM PDT by AZConcervative
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To: Nathan Zachary

And to be honest who knows if the parents are telling the whole truth concerning the events that led up to this. We could always say the answer is to not marry for fear of divorce...but honestly we can never for see what will happen. My daughter is 17 and comes from a happily divorced home, sure I don't like her dad, but I have never more than just stated that simple fact to her. So I think it is deeper than just divorce here. Sometimes when people do know what's going on in the home and call, nothing is done, more times than not. Do you know they call before they come out to check up, or when they come out the parent is not authorized to open the door...so what can you really do even if you want to? It's sad I tell you.


169 posted on 06/02/2005 9:34:36 AM PDT by stormyseas
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To: Justanobody

Are you going to put down all kids with autism, pre-natal cocaine exposure, alcohol fetal syndrome or all the other horrendous things that happen to children to make them into damaged goods because they react the way fate made them or somebody twisted them into?



170 posted on 06/02/2005 9:34:51 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: AZConcervative
So it is a conspiracy? Wow Pete, that is interesting. Good bye now.

What an odd reply...as if no one in politics has an agenda.

171 posted on 06/02/2005 9:36:20 AM PDT by Pete
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To: cuteconservativechick

You really consider the situation you described as being a "stable" family???


172 posted on 06/02/2005 9:38:19 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Just one more reason to hate the government....)
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To: poobear

The article is about a 7 year-old BOY. Are you referring to the 9 year-old girl who killed her 11 year-old friend?

Too many stories, too little time.


173 posted on 06/02/2005 9:39:09 AM PDT by sodpoodle (The Ivory Billed Woodpecker discovered Arkansas - when HRC moved to NY)
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To: Pete

I'm not looking to start a racial war. Posting something that shows blacks are more prone to be a homocide victim isn't going to help this discussion. Why not ask for it to be removed.


174 posted on 06/02/2005 9:40:51 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: Puppage
I find it hard to believe that the child never exhibited indications of some sort of mental imbalance (i.e., violent outbursts, cruelty to animals, etc.) previous to this incident. If so, it's tragic that it was not acted on at that time.

I also agree with the other posters that you just do not leave a baby alone with a 7 year-old, no matter how responsible he or she may be.

175 posted on 06/02/2005 9:41:07 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Gardener

"Is he to be put to death because of the sins of his parents? "

The parents didn't violently beat their infant child to death with fists, feet and a 2x4.

The parents may be partially responsible for influencing the overall behavior of their child but they are by no means responsible for that individual’s act of murdering his baby sister.

Responsibility always lies with the one who commits the act. In this case it is a 7 year old child...not the parents.


176 posted on 06/02/2005 9:42:01 AM PDT by Tempestuous
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To: Pete

Yes Pete, your reply was odd. Keep thinking things are great and that the violence statistics are made up. We are in serious moral decline and without conscience or fear of retribution (in eternal terms) a. k. a. HELL, things will get worse. It is out there, pretending that it is simply politicians' way of taking away our rights is extremely dangerous. So yes, your response was odd...


177 posted on 06/02/2005 9:42:43 AM PDT by AZConcervative
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To: B4Ranch
I'm not looking to start a racial war. Posting something that shows blacks are more prone to be a homocide victim isn't going to help this discussion. Why not ask for it to be removed.

I didn't create the data. I simply posted the data from the US Department of Justice site. That's the graph they had for infanticide rates.

Why would I ask for it to be removed, for heaven's sake?

178 posted on 06/02/2005 9:43:38 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Pete; B4Ranch
That link Link

doesn't seem to deal with children killing children. It covers parents killing children.

It does mention 'other family' but from reading the page it looks like it deals with adults.

179 posted on 06/02/2005 9:47:36 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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To: TheWriterTX

Beautiful.

We should not confuse a "stable 2-parent (mom & dad) family" with an "unstable 2-parent family (multiples and variables)"

You obviously will not and we should all be so lucky;)

Thank you,

sp


180 posted on 06/02/2005 9:48:57 AM PDT by sodpoodle (The Ivory Billed Woodpecker discovered Arkansas - when HRC moved to NY)
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To: stormyseas

I also agree that sometimes divorce is BEST for the child. But in divorce, both parents have to put aside their feelings and do what's best for the child. Just be honest and not use the child as a pawn. If there are legitamite accusations and concerns fine, but revenge for hurt feelings are unhealthy for the child, AND for the devorced parent(s)
I sure you know what I mean without me having to go into detail.


181 posted on 06/02/2005 9:50:28 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: B4Ranch
I'm not looking to start a racial war. Posting something that shows blacks are more prone to be a homocide victim isn't going to help this discussion. Why not ask for it to be removed.

Do you only favor statistical breakdowns by race when they serve the purpose of income redistribution?

183 posted on 06/02/2005 9:53:27 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

I sure do....and said well...:)


184 posted on 06/02/2005 9:55:07 AM PDT by stormyseas
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To: sodpoodle

Yep, see post #54. Way too many of these stories. Thanks.


185 posted on 06/02/2005 9:55:09 AM PDT by poobear
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To: AZConcervative
Yes Pete, your reply was odd. Keep thinking things are great and that the violence statistics are made up. We are in serious moral decline and without conscience or fear of retribution (in eternal terms) a. k. a. HELL, things will get worse. It is out there, pretending that it is simply politicians' way of taking away our rights is extremely dangerous. So yes, your response was odd...

First, I was referring to your respo.....oh, nevermind.

Second, believe it or not, I am on your side. What troubles me are all the posts about child abuse on FR that end up with thread after thread of hand-wringing and outrage that serve absolutely no purpose. How many times can I read, "What is wrong with kids today?" That doesn't solve anything.

I never said violent crime statistics were made up. I did say that they have been misrepresented in the press and misused by politicians and I stand by that. Calling that a conspiracy theory is simply naive.

It is also naive to think that the press in this country will suddenly wake up and say, "Hey, you know what, you are right! All these societal problems we are seeing are the result of us turning our backs on God and going our own way."

I don't disagree with your goal. I am simply saying that obsessing on bad news is not the away to achieve it.

186 posted on 06/02/2005 9:58:05 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Puppage

I was curious how you would respond to that. Good answer, though I thought obvious.


187 posted on 06/02/2005 9:58:33 AM PDT by mother22wife21
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To: ET(end tyranny)
doesn't seem to deal with children killing children. It covers parents killing children.

You are correct. BTW, I never claimed it did. Look at my original post.

188 posted on 06/02/2005 9:59:00 AM PDT by Pete
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To: najida
4. Lastly, do we really, truly want to live in a country that executes children?

We already do, just they don't get a chance to breathe air first.

189 posted on 06/02/2005 9:59:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: iconoclast

>>Do you only favor statistical breakdowns by race when they serve the purpose of income redistribution?<<

income redistribution? Do you have an example where I favor statistical breakdowns by race? Are you suggesting this has anything to do with slave reparations?


190 posted on 06/02/2005 10:01:44 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: Pete

I don't disagree with your goal. I am simply saying that obsessing on bad news is not the away to achieve it.



I don't see obsession, however I do believe that talking or (typing) frustrations about such a sensitive issue helps a lot more than it seems. This is how people from forever have come to good sound conclusions. Who knows there could be a parent out there reading that could be having trouble in some way and something someone says here serve as a blessing. So I believe this could serve as a positive in many ways. Either way I do not see that it is causing harm. :) No offense to you and your thoughts.


191 posted on 06/02/2005 10:05:10 AM PDT by stormyseas
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To: stormyseas

Fortunately for me, I've never had to experience divorce, other than those of other people we know. We've managed to raise our kids and stay married for 25 years, which is almost unheard of these days. Now were are getting too old to worry about divorce. We will just wait till one of us kicks the bucket. (That way lawyers get nothing) :o)


192 posted on 06/02/2005 10:05:55 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Pete

Maybe you mispoke, but you sounded like you needed a tinfoil hat...


193 posted on 06/02/2005 10:08:34 AM PDT by AZConcervative
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To: ET(end tyranny)

My thoughts exactly. He knew what he was doing, did it and when doing it with his body alone did not work, got a 2X4. This boy had a mission to complete. He completed it and now has the attention, no more baby sister to siphon it off. long as they are sole receivers of it.


194 posted on 06/02/2005 10:11:38 AM PDT by mother22wife21
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To: Nathan Zachary
We've managed to raise our kids and stay married for 25 years, which is almost unheard of these days.

Congratulations! If only we made divorce as socially unacceptable as smoking.....children would be much better off.

195 posted on 06/02/2005 10:12:11 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Way to go and CONGRATS!!!! I wish that I could see more of this, it is such a wonderful thing to hear, wow people really do stay together sometimes? It seems we never hear it anymore. Do you know my daughter says it is uncommon to go to school and someone say their parents are still married. Divorce is "normal" in todays world. And it probably does have a lot to do with what goes on with our children. It would have to. No way around it, divorce means a lot, but on the other hand so does being married and live in hell, so children have to....If we could all go back to marriage with G-d as head, only then will we see a difference.


196 posted on 06/02/2005 10:13:50 AM PDT by stormyseas
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Are you going to put down all kids with autism...

What in the world are you talking about??????????

Please show where I said, or even alluded to, putting a child down.

197 posted on 06/02/2005 10:17:57 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: Pete

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1415068/posts?page=146#146

Pete, the chart here shows Blacks kids die 80% more often than whites. Parents are the more probable killers in too many cases when discussing infant deaths.


198 posted on 06/02/2005 10:20:35 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: beaversmom
Society will be hearing from/about this child again.

People who love to spout forth against the death sentence probably live in gated communities on the '99th floor of their block'. There is little chance they'll ever meet one of the criminals they so vehemently champion as they ride in glory from one safe enclave of affluence to the other. When we let another murderer or pervert free out on the streets we sic'em on the poor ******** that live in the real world. Without capital punishment we endanger each and every corrections officer and subvert the effectiveness of the life sentence.

199 posted on 06/02/2005 10:24:42 AM PDT by Calusa (Hey Nick, was you ever stung by dead bee?)
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To: Calusa

What are you talking about?


200 posted on 06/02/2005 10:25:37 AM PDT by darkangel82
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