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7-Year-Old Suspected In Beating Death Of Baby Sister
WNBC Television ^ | 6/2/2005 | Puppage

Posted on 06/02/2005 7:15:50 AM PDT by Puppage

TAMPA, Fla. -- In an attack that's rattled even veteran detectives, police in Florida said a 7-year-old boy has confessed to beating his baby sister to death.

Investigators said the boy was jealous of the attention the infant was getting and upset by her crying. They said the boy beat the baby with his fists, feet and a two-by-four.

The attack occurred in Tampa, while the boy was visiting his father.

Police said the father and his girlfriend were outside with neighbors when the boy came out and told them the baby was "bleeding." They said the seven-month-old had a bloody nose, and wasn't breathing. The parents rushed the baby to a hospital, where she was pronounced dead.

A spokesman said detectives noted they'd never seen someone so young "show so much violence and so little remorse."

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Florida; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: deathcultivation; donutwatch; murder; siblingrivalry
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I want the old fashioned family back again.

281 posted on 06/02/2005 1:50:17 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: DCPatriot
"Are these people shacking up or not? Did they have a child out-of-wedlock or not?"

I don't know...and either do you. Irrelevant, IMO

Police said the father and his girlfriend....

It does not say wife.....they must have had a child out-of-wedlock and are shacking up. I would be shocked to find out these are great parents........

282 posted on 06/02/2005 1:53:42 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: darkangel82; baseballfanjm
Sometimes I wonder if some of the posters who say outlandish things on here are DU moles trying to make FR look bad.

I couldn't agree more.

283 posted on 06/02/2005 1:54:50 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Sometimes they do not get this lucky, we find out a day too late!

Despite spending almost 18 years on Florida's death row, Juan Melendez didn't give up hope that one day he would be exonerated for a murder he didn't commit.

Paul said in Acts 25:11, "If I am guilty of doing anything deserving of death, I do not refuse to die." This shows that Paul believed in the legitimacy of capital punishment.

The key word is IF....IF...:)

Melendez, who spoke in front of a crowd at the University of New Mexico-Valencia Campus about his fight to prove his innocence, said there were times he lost hope about his future and his life. But he said he knew his innocence would someday be proven.

That day finally arrived 17 years and eight months after he was convicted of the murder of a Florida beauty salon owner in 1984.

this is from 2003, it gets worse as time goes on. It is bad in Georgia where I am from, a lot of those men are probably innocent, convicted in a time when they couldn't get a fair trial because the were black.

When we start killing children, we have no where else to go this is the extremes in evil...G-d would not want this, I do not believe...there has to be another answer.
284 posted on 06/02/2005 1:57:49 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: baseballfanjm

You are assuming something. You are assuming that a 7-year old is not normally capable of murder unless he/she is mentally incompetent/retarted.

Why invent excuses for this piece of human debris?

The heart is deceitful and wicked, above all things. Wise words.

Maybe I'm just not in a gregarious mood today. Maybe I'm fed up with humanity. Probably both, but what I said still stands. If the child knew what it did was wrong and what the depth of the act was, (And I think it had an inkling, since it needed a 2x4 to finish the job) it should be destroyed as an affront to the human race. To take life without cause is to forfeit your own.

285 posted on 06/02/2005 2:23:20 PM PDT by Ecthelion
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To: Ecthelion
as far as forfeiting his life I will agree, I would make sure he never saw the street again. But death....It would take some convincing, he is seven and if we say yes to that, we are saying he is not salvageable as a human being....we move from here to our elderly. I just wish there were a quick fix it.
286 posted on 06/02/2005 2:26:46 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: stormyseas

#275. Points well taken.

The rain falls on the just and the unjust, and the good die young.

Still, we must persevere.

If the appeals process could be made shorter, I'd be all for it, so long as justice be done.

287 posted on 06/02/2005 2:27:10 PM PDT by Ecthelion
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To: stormyseas

I do not see the connection between the execution of a muderous child and euthenasia.

On one hand, we have punishment by death for taking a life.

On the other hand, we have death for the purposes of convenience, mercy killing, whatever you wish to call it.

If it never sees the street again, why not just give it the needle and have done?

288 posted on 06/02/2005 2:30:30 PM PDT by Ecthelion
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To: stormyseas

Since we can't be 100% perfect in how justice is meted out should we then do away with all courts and layers and judicial sytems and allow vigilanties to resolve problems? Shall we let chaos rule supreme. You may things a tad confused. Justice is for the victim and or their families, not the criminal, though there does seem to be attempts to reverse that. Society shouldn't have to to pay to keep these murderers fed, clothed and healthy until they all die of old age. Society shouldn't have to fund and build more and more prisons to keep the criminals off the streets, but as it is now, our prisons are over crowded and they are letting criminals out early because they need the space. What is the point of even having a judicial system when we don't even make the criminals fulfill their sentences? Look at that Tate kid. He sure changed, right? Nope. These kids can kill and they don't get treated as adults and are back on the streets and getting into trouble all over again. We know who (at leat from what the article printed) killed this baby. Do you think someone else did it? What about the 9 year old girl? Do you think someone else killed the 11 year old? Do you really think putting someone behind bars for a couple of years is justice for taking someone else's life away from them? For taking someone else's child away from them? If your child were outside laying in the sun and a 7 year old snuck up on her and stabbed and killed her, would you feel that putting that 7 year into treatment would equal justice? Would you consider that justice had been served? You are right about justice not being equal. A lot of criminals are getting out way too soon and a lot are not required to spend the time behind bars as they should, because overcrowding makes it difficult. Why is it that our judicial system has become so lax and soft? Look at the rapists and pedophiles that get out after just a few years to continue where they left off. I don't buy into the blame poverty bit. Look at Teddy Kennedy and Chappaquiddick, and his cousin Skakel. They weren't poverty stricken. There were people in our town when I was growing up that were dirt poor, but they never killed anybody. There have been a couple of times when I was laid off from work and about to lose everything I had worked for, several times, living on soda crackers, but I didnt kill anybody. I went out and found a different job. Wasn't a glamorous or well paying job, but hey, it was a job. Some people think if it doesn't pay big money then it is beneath them. Life is about choices. We don't to have to worry about IF in these two cases, we know already. We have appeals processes, but society should not be punished by forcing them to pay for the lifelong incarceration of these people. Maybe we could pass a law that the families of these bottomfeeders have to pay all costs for housing, feeding and caring for their demon seeds.

289 posted on 06/02/2005 2:33:43 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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To: Ecthelion
Impossible for them to become shorter as more and more men are placed on death row. (men and very few women) Defense screams for faster appeals, mainly because defense attorneys are going broke, prosecution fights for less appeals or no appeals, as they fight, these men sit and wait their fate, even the innocent...I have heard stories of men awaiting trial for 18 months, a first trial and then set free for lack of evidence, but that is justice. Then the advocates of both tie things is terribly disheartening.
290 posted on 06/02/2005 2:34:17 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: Pete

I saw that one too.

"from 50 years ago", not 120 years. What I'm looking for is to show how our society has changed in the past 50 years.

291 posted on 06/02/2005 2:34:35 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: Puppage

A kid that lived up the street from us in Mission Viejo took a broom stick and jammed his four year old brother's texticles up inside of him. Sociopaths start early.

292 posted on 06/02/2005 2:38:04 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Ecthelion
The problem is, if he planted those things, his neighbor (after pushing his own kid into them) would sue him. Maybe he should send his neighbor stories like this one of rotten little brats anonymously in the mail so he gets a clue.

He can address them to "owner of rotten brat" or something like that.
293 posted on 06/02/2005 2:38:31 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ET(end tyranny)
I wasn't saying do away with the justice system I was only making clear points, however I do not believe that old saying "who cares if we kill a few innocent, let us just get the guilty." I worked in the justice system and it is pretty chaotic on both sides. I have seen them lose prisoners for years, did you know that? One who had never been tried, they just couldn't speak English. But sometimes people are so victimized that they want to just see justice served on someone, anyone, someone has to pay. I have worked with both sides. No society shouldn't have to keep murderer's fed and clothed, what about the innocent? What about forgiveness and love, what about a Christian duty to help a man have a change of heart? Especially if he is guilty, but what if he isn't, then are we guilty, because we didn't care? All the points you made after this would only conclude that what I said was right....IT IS NOT WORKING. So we need something different.
294 posted on 06/02/2005 2:42:17 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: stormyseas

Because we don't enforce it. Suddenly it makes perfect sense why Australia was used as a penal colony way back when. I wish we had a huge island that we could ship all these cretins to so they could fend for themselves and not be able to harm civilized society not cost society anything.

295 posted on 06/02/2005 2:52:41 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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To: Puppage

There was another awful thread yesterday about a nine-year-old girl stabbing her playmate.

296 posted on 06/02/2005 2:54:14 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Nathan Zachary


Just post a sign on the fence that says, "warning, cacti are painful to little brats."

297 posted on 06/02/2005 2:55:25 PM PDT by Ecthelion
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To: ET(end tyranny)
another statement on a comment of yours, it was not about poor people killing people, but about poor people not being able to afford counsel to properly defend them, so therefore a lot more innocent poor people are put in prison than guilty rich ones. I never said the guilty should not be put to death, if without a doubt, they truly are, then do it, but we should still minister to them. They also deserve the same defense as the millionaires can afford out there. Or everyone should have public defenders for the crime of murder. I know some are good, but more times than not, they do not fight hard enough, because it is almost "free" work. Child molestation, if proven without a doubt should also be a capitol crime. My point is not that I am against capitol punishment, just the fairness of it. And children now. I can't be so quick to jump and say yeah kill them too. That is all.
298 posted on 06/02/2005 2:56:25 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: Ciexyz
There was another awful thread yesterday about a nine-year-old girl stabbing her playmate.

Yes, well, you know 'kids will be kids'. Send her for counseling. /sarcasm

299 posted on 06/02/2005 2:56:31 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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To: ET(end tyranny)

I would be for this also, IF they are truly guilty and get the same chance to prove innocence or guilt as everyone. However I am not so sure about sending a seven year old to a penal colony.

300 posted on 06/02/2005 2:57:58 PM PDT by stormyseas
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