Skip to comments.Michael Jackson Verdict Watch (Live Thread-[Update-Not Guilty ALL Counts])
Posted on 06/03/2005 12:26:19 PM PDT by Howlin
Bayliffs being sworn in, alternatives have been sent home!
This circus is about to be in the hands of the jury!
Geraldo and MJ must have had milk and cookies together. That's another weird thing. I thought Geraldo was a regular guy, not a closet wacko. I misunderstood.
6 footer and 100 lbs. He should be on a death watch already.
How many posts do you think this thread will have by the time the verdict is given?
Remember, there is a weekend---perhaps the people that post mostly on the weekends will post then...
You're not a blonde, are you? (g) couldn't resist!!
I suspect that it might boil down to the fact these jurors have to live in this town long after Michael Jackson goes wherever he goes. So my gut instinct is he does not walk on all charges.
I am not sure he can emotionally handle Corcharan, the man is a basket case and has not even been found guilty yet.
I hear he likes a hung jury....
I'm always amazed that juries ever come to an agreement at all, given all those different kinds of personalities and temperaments thrown into one room.
I think Napalitano is full of crap most of the time.
Don't forget Michael Skakel, that Kennedy-by-proxy-was also convicted. And he had so-called celebrity lawyer Mickey Sherman !
I guess because of the nature of the offense(s) and not knowing how this particular jury makeup will sway that it's too early for me to say he'll win or lose.
He certainly has no sympathy from me, but I can't help feeling that he's a pervert pedophile that was manuevered into molesting this kid while the kid's mother probably knew what was likely to happen. Just my feelings though. I haven't really followed everything that well.
so will JRB, Pryor and Bolton..
I USED to think a lot of him---but lately, his opinions have swayed WAY to left for me...
Jurors are gonna work at home this weekend..(g)
I thought Stu Sutcliffe got his head kicked by a couple of German teddy boys.
I believe you're talking about John Gotti. If so, he deserved what he got. He spent 23 hours a day in lockdown. 1 hour for outside excersise. He was a brutal killer as well as a POS for contracting murder. He spent his sentence at the federal correctional facility in Marion, Illinois. That was built to replace Alcatraz. the worst of the worst were sent there up until the Supermax in Colorado opened. I had zero compassion for Gotti.
LOL! Do highlights count? JK. Nope, a brown-eyed brunette.
Dee Dee is dead !
YAY---I would much rather watch/discuss those people than MJ!!!!
Don't forget that John Kerry is supposed to get up on the Senate floor on Monday and call for impeachment for
Bush because of the Downing Street memo...he says, anyway!
Thought it's probably already been answered, I think they were referring to the 25-minute tape defense played to end. Wacko said, "Before you judge me, love me." on the tape.
Oh well, it just give us more time to come up with clever jokes and insults.
We better rest up!
Not sure about California. If not, they should.
I think a lot of how juries work depends on the diplomacy of the foreman or forewoman. I know there were a couple of people I just couldn't deal with, a couple of "I got nothing else to do so I'm stonewalling types, so I asked one of the guys to help me out.
>NO--what is chilling, is that he WILL get let off and he IS guilty of this crap...
Neither putting an innocent man through an expensive hell of public humiliation, nor releasing a child molester to prey again, sound particularly appealing. I haven't been following the trial closely, but it sounds as though he will probably be exonerated due to good lawyering, whether or not he is guilty.
His kids are sure to eventually receive lucrative offers to tell their "Daddy Dearest" stories. If they do, once again people will ask if they were financially motivated to lie. If "Daddy molested me!" is worth $1 million, and "Daddy didn't molest me!" is worth nothing...
This guy is going to walk. Black entertainers always walk. If he were a white guy and slept with little boys, he'd be thrown in the poky for the rest of his life.
That fight did take place and one where Lennon defended Sutcliffe. But according to Sutcliffe's sister Lennon also caused his head injuries that eventually killed him. It's never been proven, just alleged:
OOPSY---I am getting Hannity on tape delay, and he has Geraldo on again...with Pat Lalama of Celebrity Justice...
Geraldo and Pat really arguing---says the evidence is superfluous...
BTW, I think the defense using a tape of Michael talking and making excuses, shouldn't have been allowed, because he couldn't be cross examined.
Thanks for the Beatles tip.
Anyone taking bets on how long they'll deliberate?
Verdict today or not till Monday or later?
I'm not thinking of his kids financial future, I am thinking of their physical and psychological futures...
BUT, you are right---they will make more if the details are more salacious...
"Black entertainers always walk."
How about James Brown, in jail for a couple of years in the 1990's ? Chuck Berry has been in jail. Then there's Whitney Houston's lovely(sarcasm) hubby Bobby Brown. I'm sure others will come to mind.
I think it is 8 women and 4 men with six of the jurors having little boys.
Well, the dude sure seems nervous with all these "illnesses" that he seems to keep having.
I thought that myself--but isn't it to make up for allowing prior bad acts?
Jackson not guilty----Jury gets twenty years in the electric chair.
No problem, I just heard about it myself not too long ago.
It's a recent allegation. Seems both Ringo & Sir Paul said something to the effect that it's just another "story". Astrud also said it wasn't true, so I guess I'd believe the 40+ year old version than a recent one done for dubious reasons ($$).
I have concern that he will walk. This is an inherently tough case to prove. He chooses victim who will be certain to have shady and defective parents - for whom motive will be easy to show. He has (had) substantial cash and uses it to intimidate and silence victims.
I heard the repulsive Geraldo Rivera comment that he was not guilty and that he found it impossible to believe that Jackson would engage in abuse immediately after the crisis caused by the Bashir documentary. Which just goes to show that Geraldo doesn't know much. The recidivism rate on childe molesters/abusers is very high - for a reason. They cannot control their impulse to abuse children. It's not as if it would be reasonable to expect Michael Jackson to take inventory of the state of his career and to elect not to molest a child because of the potential impact it would have in the aftermath of the PR catastrophe of that documentary.
If he walks - I say hats off to Sneddon for taking on this inherently difficult prosecution. At least he wasn't willing to stand by like Michael Jackson's "posse" of bodyguards, press flaks and enablers.
If he gets convicted I pray the media drops the "king of pop" line.
I'll bet the won't though. We'll be treated to news reports every few years about how the "king of pop" did this in prison or filed an appeal or is fielding proposals from the San Diego Zoo.
You're right. It's time to draw up a schedule to work around votes and verdicts!
"I don't think he'll have to worry -- the government will put him in super protective surroundings, he'll probably have his own personal security guard. Other prisoners won't be allowed anywhere near him."
He probably will have his own umbrella man with him!
Very well could be for the money and with both parties dead we'll never know what really happened.
Back to Jacko!
I bet the jury isn't going to like it that Jackson's lawyer made so many empty promises in his opening. And really mad that instead of Jackson testifying, they have to watch him on video...again. I bet they think that's a cheezy cheap trick...I bet they resent it.
Not Guilty on all counts. If found guilty Jackson will be dead within 24 hrs from suicide.
If that is the case, his punishment will be a $100 fine and 100 hours community service ;-)
yet still without a TAGLINE...
"I either did or I didn't. Likewise, I may or may not. Here's an expert analysis from CNN:"