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Michael Jackson Verdict Watch (Live Thread-[Update-Not Guilty ALL Counts])
Court TV; MSNBC; Fox ^ | June 3, 2005

Posted on 06/03/2005 12:26:19 PM PDT by Howlin

Bayliffs being sworn in, alternatives have been sent home!

This circus is about to be in the hands of the jury!

Bets? Predictions?


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To: Howlin

Thought it's probably already been answered, I think they were referring to the 25-minute tape defense played to end. Wacko said, "Before you judge me, love me." on the tape.


321 posted on 06/03/2005 2:44:29 PM PDT by mombonn (íViva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: Howlin

Oh well, it just give us more time to come up with clever jokes and insults.


322 posted on 06/03/2005 2:44:34 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: ken5050

We better rest up!


323 posted on 06/03/2005 2:44:42 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: duffthor

Not sure about California. If not, they should.


324 posted on 06/03/2005 2:45:10 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (AN ACTIVIST JUDICIARY IS A CULT!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: somerville

I think a lot of how juries work depends on the diplomacy of the foreman or forewoman. I know there were a couple of people I just couldn't deal with, a couple of "I got nothing else to do so I'm stonewalling types, so I asked one of the guys to help me out.


325 posted on 06/03/2005 2:45:20 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: Txsleuth

>NO--what is chilling, is that he WILL get let off and he IS guilty of this crap...

Neither putting an innocent man through an expensive hell of public humiliation, nor releasing a child molester to prey again, sound particularly appealing. I haven't been following the trial closely, but it sounds as though he will probably be exonerated due to good lawyering, whether or not he is guilty.

His kids are sure to eventually receive lucrative offers to tell their "Daddy Dearest" stories. If they do, once again people will ask if they were financially motivated to lie. If "Daddy molested me!" is worth $1 million, and "Daddy didn't molest me!" is worth nothing...


326 posted on 06/03/2005 2:45:32 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Howlin

This guy is going to walk. Black entertainers always walk. If he were a white guy and slept with little boys, he'd be thrown in the poky for the rest of his life.


327 posted on 06/03/2005 2:47:20 PM PDT by rambo316
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To: somerville
I thought Stu Sutcliffe got his head kicked by a couple of German teddy boys.

That fight did take place and one where Lennon defended Sutcliffe. But according to Sutcliffe's sister Lennon also caused his head injuries that eventually killed him. It's never been proven, just alleged:

Ex-Beatle's Sister Says Lennon Killed Her Brother

328 posted on 06/03/2005 2:47:27 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: SoVaDPJ

OOPSY---I am getting Hannity on tape delay, and he has Geraldo on again...with Pat Lalama of Celebrity Justice...

Geraldo and Pat really arguing---says the evidence is superfluous...

BTW, I think the defense using a tape of Michael talking and making excuses, shouldn't have been allowed, because he couldn't be cross examined.


329 posted on 06/03/2005 2:49:32 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Thanks for the Beatles tip.


330 posted on 06/03/2005 2:50:28 PM PDT by somerville
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To: Howlin

Anyone taking bets on how long they'll deliberate?

Verdict today or not till Monday or later?


331 posted on 06/03/2005 2:51:32 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: TChad

I'm not thinking of his kids financial future, I am thinking of their physical and psychological futures...

BUT, you are right---they will make more if the details are more salacious...


332 posted on 06/03/2005 2:51:41 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: rambo316

"Black entertainers always walk."

Huh ?

How about James Brown, in jail for a couple of years in the 1990's ? Chuck Berry has been in jail. Then there's Whitney Houston's lovely(sarcasm) hubby Bobby Brown. I'm sure others will come to mind.


333 posted on 06/03/2005 2:51:55 PM PDT by somerville
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

I think it is 8 women and 4 men with six of the jurors having little boys.


334 posted on 06/03/2005 2:52:58 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: pointsal

Well, the dude sure seems nervous with all these "illnesses" that he seems to keep having.


335 posted on 06/03/2005 2:53:46 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: Txsleuth

I thought that myself--but isn't it to make up for allowing prior bad acts?


336 posted on 06/03/2005 2:55:44 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: Howlin

Jackson not guilty----Jury gets twenty years in the electric chair.


337 posted on 06/03/2005 2:57:20 PM PDT by boothead
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To: somerville

No problem, I just heard about it myself not too long ago.


338 posted on 06/03/2005 2:57:44 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

It's a recent allegation. Seems both Ringo & Sir Paul said something to the effect that it's just another "story". Astrud also said it wasn't true, so I guess I'd believe the 40+ year old version than a recent one done for dubious reasons ($$).


339 posted on 06/03/2005 3:04:32 PM PDT by MrLee
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To: corbe
I think he surrendered his passport at the beginning of the process - and he doesn't have the cash to pull a Robert Vesco escape-to-Belize maneuver.

I have concern that he will walk. This is an inherently tough case to prove. He chooses victim who will be certain to have shady and defective parents - for whom motive will be easy to show. He has (had) substantial cash and uses it to intimidate and silence victims.

I heard the repulsive Geraldo Rivera comment that he was not guilty and that he found it impossible to believe that Jackson would engage in abuse immediately after the crisis caused by the Bashir documentary. Which just goes to show that Geraldo doesn't know much. The recidivism rate on childe molesters/abusers is very high - for a reason. They cannot control their impulse to abuse children. It's not as if it would be reasonable to expect Michael Jackson to take inventory of the state of his career and to elect not to molest a child because of the potential impact it would have in the aftermath of the PR catastrophe of that documentary.

If he walks - I say hats off to Sneddon for taking on this inherently difficult prosecution. At least he wasn't willing to stand by like Michael Jackson's "posse" of bodyguards, press flaks and enablers.

340 posted on 06/03/2005 3:06:06 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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